feck yeah dude
Has political correctness actually gone mad?
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What type of therapy would this be then? A form of therapy where you are encouraged to avoid anything that causes anxiety in order to never feel anxiety? I highly doubt any such treatment exists. Feel free to link me to such a treatment and I'll happily admit I'm wrong. Here's some links about my point, since I did not actually pull it from my arse:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...y-self-sabotage-how-running-away-can-bite-you
https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/publications/overcome-fear-anxiety
https://www.businessinsider.com/bad-habit-anxiety-2017-7?international=true&r=US&IR=T
http://www.shared-care.ca/files/Anxiety_BC_Exposure.pdf
I'll stop at four, because linkin all 150235154124 articles that scientists and doctors wrote about this seems a bit pointless.
You also didn't adress a latter part of my post. Where do you draw the line on accomodating someone's irrational fears?
Feel free to respond with some other than a rhetorical question or an antagonizing assumption. Or do respond in that way, whatever floats your boat.
i'd be interested to know if the other 150235154124 are also about fear and irrational fear based anxiety which, again, works for people people that are scared of clapping for irrational reasons as opposed to someone who becomes triggered by the sudden loud noises like someone who has anxiety from surviving a war or someone who has a form of OCD that causes anxiety from repetition
again, i get that you had anxiety and it's great that you're doing well now but your experience is yours not everyones
someone should actually legit do this
https://digitalcommons.trinity.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1006&context=psych_faculty Exposure therapy for people suffering from PTSD.
It's also in wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolonged_exposure_therapy
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/133d/8fbf0251e0da21e9abc2920c023807fb461d.pdf Exposure therapy for people suffering from OCD
There's many many more. It's not about projecting my situation on everyone else's. Exposure is really the general way to overcome these things. Perhaps in 50 years we look back and scoff at the fact that we were idiots that expose therapy was deemed helpful, but it is the current scientific consensus.
And as I keep saying, you simply can not take everyone's irrational fears into consideration in society. How is banning clapping any different form banning whispering or banning talking or banning shaking your leg as a nervous tick.
Yeah but this way it's less fun as the masses don't have to alter their behaviour for you.
i suggest you do a ctrl+f in your links on the future because those show it doesn't work for everyone with a 62% failure rate for PTSD and a 27% failure for OCD
hell yeah bro feck people with mental health problems
Banning clapping? i though it was a joke.
No dude, change the world completely and ban emotions for a few people with irrational fears.
i know this is how it starts, manchester universtity's student union will stop us from even clapping in our homes then they'll do a seance to bring Stalin back to put all the men in a gulag
I'm not saying it works for everyone. There's no foolproof cure for these things. There's still a long way to go in treating this, hence why I said in 50 years we might scoff at the notions we currently hold about it. However, avoiding the things that scare you is almost universally thought of as detrimental. And that is what you're effectively encouraging here.
"The most effective treatments for OCD are Cognitive Behavior Therapy (CBT) and/or medication. [1] More specifically, the most effective treatments are a type of CBT called Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP), which has the strongest evidence supporting its use in the treatment of OCD, and/or a class of medications called serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or SRIs"
Also, I'll just copy paste it at this point: you simply can not take everyone's irrational fears into consideration in society. How is banning clapping any different form banning whispering or banning talking or banning shaking your leg as a nervous tick.
i'm not sure you can avoid something while being there to ask for it to change
Next on the list; no more sudden moves on the dance floors.
these are both things that are banned in loads of places for lots of reasons
not something you can control
I give up.
Well played sir.
Well played sir.
honestly i'd have given up at posting a link that disagreed with me
Oh well, guess I was closer than I thought. Ill go read some Trump tweets to overcome my sorrow.
What's your view on the quite section on trains ?
It's quiet good.
Is it 'jazz-handing snowflakes' or 'jazz-handsing'
Both sound wrong tbh. I wonder if the minute's silence, which morphed into the minute's applause will evolve into jazz hands next.
I'm sorry if living normally for you requires regular clapping, it must be a difficult existence.
The principle is reasonable adjustments, obviously banning singing along at a concert would change the experience entirely and would not be reasonable especially due to the noise that would be happening anyway. I'm not going to cry if I can clap at the end of a university lecture though and I'd be surprised if anyone actually does have that big a problem with it in reality.
I don't even think it's definitely the right answer, I just have no time for close minded dick heads who see that a minority have a problem that might be made easier by reasonable adjustments from the majority and just automatically rail against it and make fun of it instead of trying to understand if they can actually make things better for people who are struggling in life.
Good for you, man. You stand up for the little guy and I applaud that.
You would think that The Uni of Manchester would avoid this given what their Trans Officer has been alleged to get upto at their desk #jessbradley
Not really sure what you're suggesting here, nor do I understand the relevance of bringing up the actions of an employee in this case.
Can you explain?
Careful with that now.
I mentioned it because they should spend time investigating that matter, that is still outstanding weeks later and is far more of a threat to students welfare than some who may find applause triggering. I'm not going to go into the reason that person was suspended here - if you use the hashtag elsewhere you can find it out.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-45729031
This was an interesting read. The lady with issues with clapping didn't think it should be banned.
This was an interesting read. The lady with issues with clapping didn't think it should be banned.
Ffs
Aaaaand he disengages.
It's crazy, but they are able to investigate both situations independently of each other.
Have you got in touch or been involved in the case with this Jess Bradley person? Signed a petition, sent an email, made a phone call etc? If so, surely you'd have a better idea of where that investigation is.
It sounds like virtue signalling otherwise.
There are some good points in here.
"She also says it could "breed resentment" if other students start to harbour bad feelings towards autistic people." especially resonates considering some of the mocking responses directed towards the disabled that we've already seen in this thread
People will bitterly argue about anything, won't they?
So they actually voted to not clap, it wasn't forced upon them?
Isn't that the proper way to exercise their rights? So why does anybody else care?
Because privileged right-wing snowflakes absolutely fecking love to whine about their lives being potentially impacted in insignificant ways.
Wait, having an irrational fear for something in particular is being disabled too?
People with mental illnesses can be disabled too. As per the legal definition of disability.
Nevermind, see below.
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