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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Just out of interest is it 100% impossible that in a really close vote the Sinn Fein MP's could actually attend the house of commons if their votes would bring down May?
My gut feel is they wouldn't but could pragmatics ever overcome their objections to sitting in the houses of parliament?
They are being pragmatic... Why would an Irish person elected by Irish people on the island if Ireland ever take a seat in a British parliament located in London?
 
They are being pragmatic... Why would an Irish person elected by Irish people on the island if Ireland ever take a seat in a British parliament located in London?
To prevent a hard boarder causing damage to said Irish people or to try and force a 2nd referendum to ensure the will of the Irish people who voted to remain in the EU is carried out?
Its a valid decision not to recognize the authority of the parliament - but if doing so causes lasting economic hardship for those they represent (and lets remember they represent a constituency not all of whom would have voted for them... not all of whom would necessarily identify as Irish) plus could actually do more to divide and ultimately harm the goal of a united Ireland they could you know perhaps exercise their right to vote?
I didn't think they would - put there are certainly arguments on both sides of the issue as to what would be the best course of action.
 
To prevent a hard boarder causing damage to said Irish people or to try and force a 2nd referendum to ensure the will of the Irish people who voted to remain in the EU is carried out?
Its a valid decision not to recognize the authority of the parliament - but if doing so causes lasting economic hardship for those they represent (and lets remember they represent a constituency not all of whom would have voted for them... not all of whom would necessarily identify as Irish) plus could actually do more to divide and ultimately harm the goal of a united Ireland they could you know perhaps exercise their right to vote?
I didn't think they would - put there are certainly arguments on both sides of the issue as to what would be the best course of action.
I guess they are just a little more true to their beliefs, integrity isn't usually a trait you'd associate with politicians, but there you have it.

The economic failure of the Northern Irish state due to the votes of people in mainland Britain is one more reason why Northern Ireland should not be part of Britain... I am guessing that is how they will use the result. It is a political game of chess. A majority voted remain in NI and now the British government is dragging them out of Europe against their will... That will result in people from all sides eventually coming to terms with NI probably being better off not part of Britain.

It's probably not even that calculated. It is as simple as never taking a seat in the government buildings of what is an illegal invading country. Sinn Féin and it's associates see themselves as torch bearers of the original provisional Irish government that declared itself in 1916. They will never recognise Britain's claim to dominion over any part of Ireland. Taking a seat at Westminster to deal with Irish affairs would be tantamount to acceptance of that dominion and would legitimise it.
 
I guess they are just a little more true to their beliefs, integrity isn't usually a trait you'd associate with politicians, but there you have it.

The economic failure of the Northern Irish state due to the votes of people in mainland Britain is one more reason why Northern Ireland should not be part of Britain... I am guessing that is how they will use the result. It is a political game of chess. A majority voted remain in NI and now the British government is dragging them out of Europe against their will... That will result in people from all sides eventually coming to terms with NI probably being better off not part of Britain.

It's probably not even that calculated. It is as simple as never taking a seat in the government buildings of what is an illegal invading country. Sinn Féin and it's associates see themselves as torch bearers of the original provisional Irish government that declared itself in 1916. They will never recognise Britain's claim to dominion over any part of Ireland. Taking a seat at Westminster to deal with Irish affairs would be tantamount to acceptance of that dominion and would legitimise it.
I could be wrong but don't MPs need to swear and oath of allegiance to HM and the British state? That could be a clincher as to why they wont take their seats. They are also looking fantastic at the moment by doing absolutely nothing and leaving the whole shebang to May and Foster.
 
Find it remarkable how people are just talking about a Canada like deal like it's nothing. It will kill the manufacturing sector stone dead. Services would also be crippled.
 
I could be wrong but don't MPs need to swear and oath of allegiance to HM and the British state? That could be a clincher as to why they wont take their seats. They are also looking fantastic at the moment by doing absolutely nothing and leaving the whole shebang to May and Foster.
Yes, which would be acceptance of the dominion of the British over parts of and the people of Ireland... Saying some words in a foreign language isn't really the root of thr issue is it. Or do you think that's the reason?
 
I have a serious question.

What would be some advantages of Brexit.

Good question, one that is yet to answered. I am starting to think there aren't any. No, I'm not starting to think, it has been bleeding obvious right form the start, it's the stupidest fecking idea anyone has ever thought of.

There has never been any attempt whatsoever to sell it to the sceptics, in fact everything that has gone on has served to make the sceptics more and more sceptical.
 
I have a serious question.

What would be some advantages of Brexit.

none, zilch, loads of agro plus plus plus..

here is still hoping that it does not pass through parliament and without needing a revolution this tory goverment falls and hopefully somebody with vision and a plan comes in and puts the UK at the centre of the EU where it should be!
 
Well it makes more sense in a "no-deal" brexit to keep the current two headquarters rather than the original simplification idea. One HQ in Britain, and one in Rotterdam as they have at present is perfect for them going forward if it's a no deal.
Sky news reckon the main driver in the move was fear of takeover, with Holland having tougher takeover laws than the UK. Large institutional shareholders voted the move down as the share price would have dropped if they left the FTSE. Whether that's the end of it though I don't know.
 
Sky news reckon the main driver in the move was fear of takeover, with Holland having tougher takeover laws than the UK. Large institutional shareholders voted the move down as the share price would have dropped if they left the FTSE. Whether that's the end of it though I don't know.
They would have been booted off the FTSE 100
 
none, zilch, loads of agro plus plus plus..

here is still hoping that it does not pass through parliament and without needing a revolution this tory goverment falls and hopefully somebody with vision and a plan comes in and puts the UK at the centre of the EU where it should be!

Who the feck would that be then?
 
none, zilch, loads of agro plus plus plus..

here is still hoping that it does not pass through parliament and without needing a revolution this tory goverment falls and hopefully somebody with vision and a plan comes in and puts the UK at the centre of the EU where it should be!
Mate this is ridiculous, the UK is an island on the edge of Europe, you really want to move the entire island to the center of Europe?

Actually, it would get rid of the Swiss so maybe it's a good idea.
 
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I told my English friend how brexit is unfortunate.

He tells me “ignore the negativity. You’ll see UK will be the place to be”

What exactly is the cause for some English people still thinking this way?
 
I told my English friend how brexit is unfortunate.

He tells me “ignore the negativity. You’ll see UK will be the place to be”

What exactly is the cause for some English people still thinking this way?
Normal British bluster.
 
I told my English friend how brexit is unfortunate.

He tells me “ignore the negativity. You’ll see UK will be the place to be”

What exactly is the cause for some English people still thinking this way?
The Daily Mail