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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
What the hell is the conference if not a resignation? Is she about to u-turn and go for another round of negotiation?
he is slimey enough...
its either the PM admits she needs me to re-negotiate a better deal and although I dont like the deal Ill do it for the good of the country
(knowing the PM is toast before any negotiations can take place)
Or the PM wont let me re-negotiate it - its currently not good enough so Ive got to go as I believe in Brexit
"Forcing"
They didn't cause this, you did. You're forcing yourselves to leave.
And they (a) need you less than you need them and (b) certainly need you less than they need every other country who would certainly (and rightfully) demand similar concessions if they were to just bend over for all of your demands. The onus is on you to come up with a deal they'll accept and if you can't it's your fault. (By you I mean your politicians and Leave voters, not you personally, unless you voted Leave.)
Yeah it's just given it back to most of the countries it took it from
I don't see what your point is? After enacting A50, the UK is negotiating as a third country. Which is why accepting regulatory alignment doesn't make sense.
Sure. I said Lisbon because it's the most recent one.
she might call a vote of confidence in herself - back me or sack me?
I love this argument about the EEC - EU . More drivel.
I voted in the 1975 referendum and I wasn't voting to have a supply chain for my Nissan car in Sunderland.
The same arguments were around then about FoM, sovereignty etc. Same old crap recycled 40 years later.
I voted in the 1975 referendum and I wasn't voting to have a supply chain for my Nissan car in Sunderland.
The same arguments were around then about FoM, sovereignty etc. Same old crap recycled 40 years later.
won't be a resignation, Gove announced? People seem to think he won't take the role.
I'm guessing she just lays out her timeline on a parliamentary vote.
You said that Brexit was about sovereignty. Which means that you expected to gain more sovereignty, the issue is that you didn't lose any sovereignty as a member of the EU. As members of the EU, the UK were decision and policy makers.
I'm hoping for sod this for a game of soldiers,May resigns, to spend more time running through wheat fields.
I’d use the term principled more than honest with Corbyn – Relative to most politicians that is. He’s definitely learning to play the game now though.
Everything you’ve described is simply politics. He’s playing to the fantasy land that the Brexit deal was knowing it’s not a deal he’ll ever be accountable for. He knows taking a hard stance either way would alienate 50% of the country and potentially destroy any chance of beating the Tories down the line.
Why would he take the honest approach? That is literally what May has just done and 90% of the country is tearing into her.
To be honest would be for him to say “I’ll honour the wishes of the British people but I would also add that you’re a bunch of stupid c*nts.”
Sky have released an interesting poll today. Dont know how to post tweets
https://news.sky.com/story/majority...k-second-eu-referendum-sky-data-poll-11555078
Small sample obvs
https://news.sky.com/story/majority...k-second-eu-referendum-sky-data-poll-11555078
"Forcing"
They didn't cause this, you did. You're forcing yourselves to leave.
And they (a) need you less than you need them and (b) certainly need you less than they need every other country who would certainly (and rightfully) demand similar concessions if they were to just bend over for all of your demands. The onus is on you to come up with a deal they'll accept and if you can't it's your fault. (By you I mean your politicians and Leave voters, not you personally, unless you voted Leave.)
Yea I know, it was rhetorical. Decent summary tho
I often forget sarcasm etc gets lost on the internet. I wasn't being serious...
Not until 17:15
It's already 17:15
It's already 17:15
I suspect that a lot of people don't know the chronology. They only recently learned about the commission(administrative arm) and think that it's a new thing when in reality it's there since the early 50s. The preamble of the Treaty of Rome(1957) makes it clear, not only it stipulates that the members are determined to lay the foundations for an ever-closer union but also mentions the ambition to develop and strengthen the union economically and socially.
The EU has never been a secret.
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No idea what to do, but not this. Back to square 1 then?
The sovereignty question is in any event a red herring, of interest to a handful of fanatics like Bill Cash. The referendum was won on the basis of (lies about) immigration.
Indeed. I'm quite sure they're both in reality, but they don't have the honesty to say so as they're younger supporters are not.
Hilarious if this is a press conference to basically say, “Come on then cnuts! Bring it on!”
I'd go so far to say they are rather mutually inclusive.
I'm not leaving.......I'M NOT FECKING LEAVING!!!! The show goes on!!
First few words are resignation talk....
Here we go...
Doesn’t sound like she is going to quit.
Honestly I don't know what was THE basis for the referendum. But I have heard too many people in all of Europe claim that the EU changed its initial plan, it's one incredible lie because you can easily prove that it's wrong, it's on the second page of the Treaty of Rome, the first page has "The Treaty of Rome - 25 March 1957" written on it, you don't even need to make an effort and read dozens of pages.
Fair fcuks to her.
They’ll be using her as an example of stubborn resilience in future politics classes.
They’ll be using her as an example of stubborn resilience in future politics classes.
Nah this isn't a resignation speech.
At least she has the balls to set out a plan & pursue it (even if I don't agree with it). It's more than what cuntface Mogg or BoJo have.
You mean like her red lines
What the feck was that? Pointless nonsense to try and create a headline above the commons debate
Calling their bluff.
Yeah but her plan is the equivalent of a shit in a fish bowl.
At this point, the Conservatives' main and only priority is not what is best for the country, it’s staying in power. In terms of Brexit and May's position, they will do whatever they think best helps them to do that.
She's getting slaughtered and basically avoiding every question that's being asked.
She's a sweaty quavering mess.
The line she just trotted out that no one has given her an alternative. No one else has been negotiating with the EU you idiot
The line she just trotted out that no one has given her an alternative. No one else has been negotiating with the EU you idiot