Hitler is 4th from the right, front row.
Wisconsin teens participate in Nazi salute
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Yeah I couldn't spot him or her either?Where’s the black kid?
Where’s the black kid?
Second row, far right.
Well, I guess they're all far right.
Even just once or 1,000 times, there is no place for racism/anti-semitism ffs.
Can't believe I'm having to say this in 2018.
Looks like kids being dumb kids. 1-3 day suspension should do. However, it’s too late now with the media spotlight. Sucks that their lives are ruined, but maybe don’t do Nazi salutes?...
I think the greater issue is that the school allowed systemic racism and homophobia for years, culminating in that shitshow of a photo.
If anything, the principle and administrators need firing.
If anything, the principle and administrators need firing.
wait that was a Roman salute.
What's your point?
Regularity is an issue if you're a bit of a jerk. If you do something that goes past that, it's not really a consideration anymore. It's not like this is a new thing either, we've known not to do stupid things on social media for about 10 years now.
A suspension and stern talking to, would have sufficed. Not all for this culture's hard-on for punitive measures.
I never put up a Nazi salute or yelled a racial slur. But thank goodness I didn't grow up in this era.
I never put up a Nazi salute or yelled a racial slur. But thank goodness I didn't grow up in this era.
I dunno. People are always going to do stupid shit, especially teens- blackface thread as a case in point.
I'm just not comfortable with throwing teens on a scrapheap cos they made some dumbass decision in a split-second.
Can't help but think of that horrible Laura Ingraham.
We disagree on some of the specifics but big picture I totally agree. This is such a brutal perspective to take:
I would never give a Nazi salute but I did things as a teenager that leave a stain on my conscience. Thankfully the adults at the time had the compassion and sense to guide me in the right direction instead of burying me because of it.
If a snapshot of one of those moments was used as the only evidence to make that judgment on...I'd feel betrayed by society. I can't see how that's a good way to deal with these things.
There was a bunch of other stuff in the twitter thread about regular racist behaviour from the students of that school. The fact that they boasted about the one black student giving the salute is a clue in itself.
edit - and sure I had terrible opinions as a teenager too, but this picture seems to be a bit more than trolling or triggering the libs, and these opinions seem to be a bit more than the teenage stupidity.
Feck anyone who thinks pretending to Heil Hitler is funny or a joke
America is the worst place to do this. After probably Israel. My wife who’s American studied the holocaust in school for years as standard curriculum, whereas in England (for me) we studied the war in general for years (with maybe a small area on the holocaust).
Also for the fact America is the worst for the social media Witch Hunt.
Also for the fact America is the worst for the social media Witch Hunt.
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This exactly. Kids at that age does stupid shit, but when they are kids the responsibility isn't only on them. To ruin the careers of all the guys in the picture is silly as it seems a systematic problem. I mean, why are they all smiling
Says about what has been going on in that school when the dynamic of such a large group finds its collective spirit of happiness and bonding through a Nazi-salute. Funny photo huh? One guy puts his hand up and the rest follows to get rid of the awkwardness. Yeah, that is a group problem, change the whole school over there.I'll bet the kid in the middle and the other richlooking shitkid left of him is the main culprits, and their dads. Feel sorry for all the other pieces of shit
Its fun to hate on shitkids, but ruining all of the people in the picture by fecking up their work situation is too much jesus.
This exactly. Kids at that age does stupid shit, but when they are kids the responsibility isn't only on them. To ruin the careers of all the guys in the picture is silly as it seems a systematic problem. I mean, why are they all smiling
I'll bet the kid in the middle and the other richlooking shitkid left of him is the main culprits, and their dads. Feel sorry for all the other pieces of shit
Don't worry, unlike 18 year old minorities who got caught smoking a joint in the 1990s, none of these poor, under-privileged, unfairly victimized beautiful boys will face any actual career penalties. They will quite easily plug into the Tucker Carlson/Hannity/Fox/Right Wing networks and be hailed as Champions of Free Speech.
I am sure these unfortunate, struggling yet clearly noble youth appreciate your concern for their earning potential. You are a true man of charity
Seems like a bunch of nerds to me, but whatever floats your boat I guess.
What is wrong with you man.Completely agree that they'll do just fine, unlike many of their non white colleagues who end up getting chewed up in the system.
For people saying just a slap on the wrist would do, these are just silly teens doing silly teen things..What would you think if this was a group of Muslim boys holding up....I don't know...an ISIS flag? Who swore it was nothing but a joke after? Would it also be ok to just give them a quick telling off? Or would you want something more?
Not to mention the pretty appalling systemic issues that seem to be coming out about this school.
I don't trust shit about shit so for all I know some crazy dude made them all do the signs and then took the picture to feck with them. Some of you chase targets in this thread even, for which there is no need. I mean Racism, Nazism etc. is a pretty easy stand to take against. So you aren't exactly all heroes and angels. I refuse to wish bad upon a human without proper evidence. Seems some of ya'll can't wait. Great folks
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Yeah the whole community seems messed up, I was reading on one of those Twitter threads that it was some of the kids parents taking the pictures. Disgusting behavior and you're right, some people downplaying it need to think about it a little more.
Who are these guys? I don't follow twitter tbh so I don't really trust pictures and sources like that. Is he a journalist?
As I said when I took it on face value tho, that school and their parents should have to change their pathetic efforts. The publicity here is great for that. I'm sure there are many more schools like this too. All them rich assholes has to come from somewhere, would be nice if they could somehow use this publicity to change things around. I assume this is a fancy school from the posts over?
Anyways, I see some of you had a thought about it and calmed down a bit, that was needed. Not good to wish bad on people, least of all kids even if they are or aren't rich. Seems really bitter and all this hatred aimed at specific groups just bothers me and it should bother most, so think about your values if they are thorough sometimes, not just the politic image of yourself but your actual human values.
It is the guy who broke the story, including the original photo. He then published the DMs he got later in the day. The journalist himself was then doxxed (with his grandparents address).
About the bit in bold - there's some hatred of specific groups very obviously shown in this thread, no? My political values and actual human values are in agreement that Nazi ideas are bad, I'm quite sure of that.
Ah, well at least he is a journalist even if its just online. Not sure what doxxing is, if you would care to explain? Someone doxxed him for making it an article?
Good, me too. Should go without saying, but sadly it doesn't. And it wasn't aimed at you I think, even though I quoted you first, my bad.
Original photo looks like a shit joke by some privileged dipshits. On its own I don't think it provides justification to ruin their lives. Even crap people should be allowed to feck up a joke.
I find some Nazi humour very funny. To Have and Have Not, Fawlty Towers, The Producers, Mitchell and Webb etc. If that means feck me then ok feck me.
I'm not about to psychoanalyse someone's Twitter profile so if they are actually rabid Nazis then ilI' have to take the cafs word on it.
I find some Nazi humour very funny. To Have and Have Not, Fawlty Towers, The Producers, Mitchell and Webb etc. If that means feck me then ok feck me.
I'm not about to psychoanalyse someone's Twitter profile so if they are actually rabid Nazis then ilI' have to take the cafs word on it.
The story here is that apparently racism is fairly common at the high school in question and the school has done nothing to clamp down on it. Plus it sounds like one of the student's parent or something encouraged this picture.
I imagine racism is quite common in a lot of places. I think it's more likely to be stupid children trying to be edgy- a tale as old as time itself.
You can't really use individual cases of racist incidents at the school to come to a definitive conclusion that there is an actual neo nazi problem there.
Not any more than you can use Prince Phillip's racism to prove that Prince Harry is a Nazi.
That sounds bad.
I didn't say they had a neo-nazi problem. I said it appears as if they have quite a high tolerance towards racism. Which, going by the stories put up in that Twitter thread, doesn't seem to be that much of a stretch.
I don't this discussion tbh. People have come out and said the school has a problem with racists students. Being Wisconsin, that's not a stretch.
Yeah I briefly scanned over the Twitter stuff on the previous page and if there is a backstory to it then that changes things. The guy I quoted said people "deserved to lose their future" (!) on that picture alone, before considering any of the other evidence. That's tragic.
You can be sure where these students got their prejudice from?
Reading Mein Kampf?
Good. Isolate them from society. I like my Nazi’s out in the open.
I find it rather easy not to pose as a Nazi in photographs. But maybe that’s just me.
I find it rather easy not to pose as a Nazi in photographs. But maybe that’s just me.
Doxxing is 'publishing private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the Internet, typically with malicious intent.' The quite common outcome of doxxing is 'swatting' where people call the police local to the victim's house and say that a terrible crime involving guns is about to take place i.e. "I'm going to kill everyone here etc." as a result the local SWAT team usually turns up and breaks down the door. This has resulted in a few unfortunate deaths, as trigger happy police mistake some of the inhabitants as aggressors.