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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
I'm in support of a federal European state but it's a very small minority at this point, the idea has little support. The concept of sovereign nation states is simply way too strong.
Closer union yes but federal superstate I doubt. Nations still want their identity, the UK voters have been told they don't have any say in anything which is completely untrue.
Its not untrue if you feel your mep's are not listening to the people, you know, a bit lile normal mp's.
"Differ", "delay", what's the difference?
The usual avoiding connotations nonsense, i suppose in english we'd associate it with train delays and delaying the inevitable
If the Uk had taken the matter seriously of voting for proper MEPs things may have been different. Instead the largest number of UK MEPs were UKIP who had no interest in either representing the UK voters or do anything other than turning up occasionally to be destructive rather than constructive. UKIP got voted in because of low turnouts and apathy of the voters.
Thanks.
More cowardice from the leader of the Tories. See Cameron for the other one.
30 minutes to get the popcorn ready.
This lady is for turning and turning and turning.
She's spent the last 2 week telling everyone that the deal can't be changed and Labour are idiots for thinking it can. Now she's trying to do just that for a couple more week in power.
I wonder if the amendments can be voted on irrespective of it being brought forward for a vote, common sense would say it should be possible but I'm thinking not
She's spent the last 2 week telling everyone that the deal can't be changed and Labour are idiots for thinking it can. Now she's trying to do just that for a couple more week in power.
I wonder if the amendments can be voted on irrespective of it being brought forward for a vote, common sense would say it should be possible but I'm thinking not
Except that stats show that, for example, you are more likely to be the victim of a hate crime in Scotland than in England. The idea that the Brexit vote shows Scotland is more welcoming to foreigners than the rest of the UK is a fallacy...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-44040251
The idea that we're more progressive overall is a bit of a fallacy but we do vote for progressive parties consistently. UKIP haven't made any inroads at all and the most prominent Tory up here is known for basically being one of the most liberal, even if that's partly just the way she projects herself.
The laughing, it's like a panto so far 
Hear Theresa May is favourite for the United job with this level of incompetence. Only when we cant make the top 4, though.
May turns more often than an Olympic figure skater.
She is right that another referendum would divide the country further. If remains wins in the second one, brexiters would never get over it.
Sounds more like a telling off than a proposal so far
Brexiters will never be happy though, even if they get Brexit. They will just move on to the next thing to moan about it
Oh well.
Basically. I think she’s on the brink, basically needs to go now.
This isn't as interesting as I thought it was going to be.
Hard to imagine how it can be divided any further than it currently is.
BBC radio literally just cut off the opposition response. Balance for you
So when is the new vote?
So she's calling everyone bluff (again)?
What's going to change? I'm no expert but surely the question now turns to replacing her or backing her.
What's going to change? I'm no expert but surely the question now turns to replacing her or backing her.
I honestly don't know what she (or anybody else) could do though.
When the house is split pretty much into thirds on which way to go there is no way forward. I actually agreed with her speech when she tried to explain that for this to work everybody will have to compromise and without that it doesn't matter if it is May, Mogg or Corbyn - none of them would get a majority at the moment.
Corbyn's expression as May sat down. "This bitch.."
Yep, it's complete deadlock and it was always going to be this way. Of course the opposition are going to reject the deal - they are the opposition.
I like this speaker. Indian ones are spineless
It's a clear fallacy as proven by stats and highlighted in that report. "The Scots aren't racist but the English are" is a dangerous myth and one that gets fuelled by the rhetoric of the likes of the SNP when they claim that culturally Scotland is more welcoming than other parts of the UK. It's simply not true and it's also hardly progressive to tap into that sort of nationalist and divisive thinking.
Pound going down again.
speaker pretty adamant they "should" have a vote on pulling the vote
dunno - I was listening on 5 live - they cut the speaker off (after the full lot of fluff from corbyn)
It keeps getting more and more shambolic. The Tories really need to put her out of her misery and send her on her way. This is no way to govern.
Bercow is brilliant
Thanks switched, had world service on.
Bercow is brilliant
Someone of reddit said he really needs his own entrance music. *glass breaks*
Definitely not, the country is divided and only when the reality of Brexit hits will it be divided further. Remain would keep some division certainly, your right that brexiteers will never get over it, but not increase it.
She had a great deal to do with bringing about that gridlock though... She didn't have to make leading brexiteers important cabinet members or promise things she could not deliver.
Someone else might face the same situation but find a better way forward. At this point SHE is the main reason why things are where they are. People pointing at Cameron have a point but it's been two years of clusterfeck now.