balaks
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How about a referendum in Northern Ireland only, on the backstop.
Would the Dramaqueen Unionist Party go for that?
No they wouldn't.
How about a referendum in Northern Ireland only, on the backstop.
Would the Dramaqueen Unionist Party go for that?
What I'm wondering though is that it may just be the border that doesn't exist but how will you keep up with Brussels Regulatory changes as part of the UK when attempting to sell produce and goods in to the EU?There already is the makings of a regulatory border down the Irish sea with checks on livestock etc. at Northern Irish ports. The DUP haven't had any problem with the concept of such a border until now and the backstop would merely increase the level of those checks to protect what Northern Ireland producers can sell on into the EU while at the same time maintaining full access to the GB markets. It's a win win for the North and as such has the overwhelming backing from the Ulster Farmers Union and local business leaders.
You think? Why so?
not a trick question, I'm genuinely curious, I would have thought a split down the sea would still be a bit of a disaster for NI.
I'm a Leftie and I don't like the idea. How can we be a United Kingdom with a border between us?It is the Tories who hate that idea
Few snorkels too?If there's a border in the sea I'm getting a job lot of waterproof balaclavas in for the lads.
I'm a Leftie and I don't like the idea. How can we be a United Kingdom with a border between us?
We really do know how to shoot ourselves in the foot but it doesn't answer the issue. No-one has known the answer to uniting Ireland. Make the Protestants move to England?We aren't a United Kingdom and never have been. We are England and a bunch of invade and conquered other countries.
A united Ireland would be entirely logical except that we deliberately moved a huge number of Protestant Scots to Northern Ireland who now, obviously, don't want to be part of a United Ireland. We really do know how to feck things up.
We can get rid of any EU citerzens that are here and don’t work with current EU laws but we don’t. What makes you think things will change when we leave?Fair points, but answer me this. 4 towns off the top of my head local to me are literally full of eastern European immigrants. This is especially a problem in the two smaller town, in one of them they stand on the pavements all day long, shouting and roaring, very intimidating especially for women on their own, cheeky bastards too as I’ve heard of people catching them leaning on their cars etc when parked on the street. In another town the Romanians had to be chased out of it as they had been caught carrying out a spate of break-ins, the local catholic and the protestant churches were both done.
Now these people, the vast majority don’t seem to work, they but the government seem to be providing for them not a bother. Am I or is my local community racist for wanting something done about this blight?
Or bring the south back into the UK with devo-max for all.We really do know how to shoot ourselves in the foot but it doesn't answer the issue. No-one has known the answer to uniting Ireland. Make the Protestants move to England?
I believe in self-determination but that won't happen, meanwhile the EU have always known the Backstop and a border between us was never going to be an option because it tied our hands behind our backs.
Or bring the south back into the UK with devo-max for all.![]()
They'd get the protection of our Nukes. What more could they ask for?I'm not sure the Irish would like that plan and I'm definitely not sure the British Army could take the Irish Army!
Oh, i thought Wilhelm van Orange was responsible for the protestant movement in ni?We aren't a United Kingdom and never have been. We are England and a bunch of invade and conquered other countries.
A united Ireland would be entirely logical except that we deliberately moved a huge number of Protestant Scots to Northern Ireland who now, obviously, don't want to be part of a United Ireland. We really do know how to feck things up.
Basically we just don't play well with others.
I can't even begin to imagine. Lots.What more could they ask for?
We aren't a United Kingdom and never have been. We are England and a bunch of invade and conquered other countries.
A united Ireland would be entirely logical except that we deliberately moved a huge number of Protestant Scots to Northern Ireland who now, obviously, don't want to be part of a United Ireland. We really do know how to feck things up.
Basically we just don't play well with others.
TBF though the Irish did send quite a few of their own over to Scotland just to even things up. Without them we'd never have had the friendly rivalry between Rangers & Celtic. So it's not all bad is it ?
Oh, i thought Wilhelm van Orange was responsible for the protestant movement in ni?
We really do know how to shoot ourselves in the foot but it doesn't answer the issue. No-one has known the answer to uniting Ireland. Make the Protestants move to England?
I believe in self-determination but that won't happen, meanwhile the EU have always known the Backstop and a border between us was never going to be an option because it tied our hands behind our backs.
I don't think that's right,
It would undermine one side of the agreement because the people elected by the Unionists say they won't agree to a border in the North Sea. So if the GFA is the be all and end all when it comes to Brexit then the border has to be agreed by both parties in the North or the GFA is meaningless.
Also just so I know where you stand, you think that the UK shouldn't be allowed to leave the EU /CU/SM with all the territory it entered the common market with because of the GFA.
To counter your sweeping generalisations with my own, I've always found Eastern Europeans hard working and reliable and never any bother. A Lithuanian did our bathroom and Romanians did our bedroom, both to a high standard for a competitive price. The scumbags I've met have tended to be English council estate folk.Fair points, but answer me this. 4 towns off the top of my head local to me are literally full of eastern European immigrants. This is especially a problem in the two smaller town, in one of them they stand on the pavements all day long, shouting and roaring, very intimidating especially for women on their own, cheeky bastards too as I’ve heard of people catching them leaning on their cars etc when parked on the street. In another town the Romanians had to be chased out of it as they had been caught carrying out a spate of break-ins, the local catholic and the protestant churches were both done.
Now these people, the vast majority don’t seem to work, they but the government seem to be providing for them not a bother. Am I or is my local community racist for wanting something done about this blight?
Nothing to disagree with there Wibbs.We have fecked it up so badly there is no quick solution, just workarounds. But abandoing our responsibilites now, as seems to be happening now, is a moral disgrace. The EU aren't responsible for this clusterfeck. The British are.
Aye, as a general rule it's usually safe to assume that people in mainland UK both care far less and know far less about NI than they should. Brexit has been a rather neat example of this, as demonstrated by the half-baked opinions on the issue that are still being put forward in this thread today.
Nothing to disagree with there Wibbs.
The Backstop is no workaround though. The EU knew that with it in place there will be no one for the UK to trade with until if ever we negotiate trade agreements with either the EU or those few countries with no current agreements with the EU. We cannot even trade under World Trade Organisation Tariffs.
It's a trap!It is a shit workaround but short of remain, the only other vaguely moral possibility.
We really do know how to shoot ourselves in the foot but it doesn't answer the issue. No-one has known the answer to uniting Ireland. Make the Protestants move to England?
I believe in self-determination but that won't happen, meanwhile the EU have always known the Backstop and a border between us was never going to be an option because it tied our hands behind our backs.
Jeremy Corbyn says this is ridiclous.
Labour are going to build their submarine out of butter.
Personally as oldies we never had it so good. We could even use our smart phones, data and all on the same rate.You don't have to be young, old, left or right to know that Brexit is a moronically stupid idea.
I hope you realise I was saying it as a joke, not an answer.
I hope you realise I was saying it as a joke, not an answer.
Yeah but, he's 100pc cheeseheadHe was King of England for 13 years.
It's not as if I mind being laughed at, I got used to that. It was just on this occasion I was trying to be.I know mate don't worry - thats why I was laughing.
Yeah you're spot on. Kinda like Bram Stoker's Dracula with Gary Oldman meets Mary Berry...Would I be considered a fruitloop to say I hate Mrs May's clothing style? Her short jackets make her look horrendous.
Is it just me but does she walk like a man?Yeah you're spot on. Kinda like Bram Stoker's Dracula with Gary Oldman meets Mary Berry...
Personally as oldies we never had it so good. We could even use our smart phones, data and all on the same rate.
....who's pooped his pantsIs it just me but does she walk like a man?
Yes!....who's pooped his pants
Is it just me but does she walk like a man?