Poch as Manager, Ole as Director of Football

Doesn't make any sense. If anything it should be Poch as a DoF since he is good at building a competitive squad but average at tactics.
 
Presumably VDS received training for his first job at Ajax as Marketing Director, then for his follow up as CEO.

At no point has VDS ever been Director of Football, if you’d read anything about this you’d know that.
:lol:

Bit of a mixup. I blame being early and outside at kids football
 
I don't understand the reason some want to throw 40m at Poch while Ole is giving us everything we ask for and everything Poch will offer anyway.

Keep Ole and get an experienced Dof. Let's create our manager instead of bringing a ready one from outside.
 
I understand people saying Ole isn't a DOF. Can someone actually tell me, ideally without a Google, what a DOF actually does?
 
I understand people saying Ole isn't a DOF. Can someone actually tell me, ideally without a Google, what a DOF actually does?

What is a director of football?

A director of football is an executive employed by a football club to oversee medium and long-term strategy. They work with owners and the manager to identify a club philosophy and ensure it is implemented. The aim is to ensure that the club remains on the right path and is not forced into short-term measures.

At Old Trafford, a director of football would be tasked with implementing a 'United Way', which would set out what the club expects, what behaviours it looks for from players and what values best represent United. They may even have some influence over style of football, from the academy to the first team.

I googled it but feck it it was a nice description!
 
Poch camp really try hard on this, allow me to laugh please.
 
I don't understand the reason some want to throw 40m at Poch while Ole is giving us everything we ask for and everything Poch will offer anyway.

Keep Ole and get an experienced Dof. Let's create our manager instead of bringing a ready one from outside.
I am all in for Ole if we get top 4 and its not unachievable currently
 
The director of football needs experience, it's a crucial role to get right if we want long term success. Handing it to someone with no experience in the role would be mental.
 
Amazing that people still think the DOF at a club is just some throwaway figure that you can hire any old guy to run it. Just throwing out vague ideas of how the team should play and occasional saying out loud a name of a player from another club for no reason whatsoever.
Yeap,Directors are a higher level above management and we've pretty much failed from a managerial point of view to an extent bar Jose's first season with us.
I hope we get the DOF appointment right.
 
I think united fans should wait and see how ole does as manager upto the end of the season before clamouring for Potch. So far so good but very early days.. if he gets us top 4 and does well in FA cup maybe quarters of champs league then everyone will be demanding he stays...
Potch done ok at spurs without winning any silverware - but can he do it at a big club !

The obvious director of football is SAF (HEALTH PERMITTING)
 
Ole as DOF, Evra as Manager, Cantona as cheerleader, someone from the academy as head scout.

We're gonna win the world cup yayyy!

Give it a bloody rest with all this "club legend in important role because romantic" nonsense.
 
People live in the clouds on this forum.
I can see, Man Utd fans wanting Poch, but I dont think theres any chance of him joining you, at this period of time, his got a fantastic team, five of the boys that finished last nights game, came out of our academy. Moving into a fantastic stadium, Levy and the fans love him etc etc

Remember this guy turned down Real Madrid, ( which is the Holy Grail for Latino managers) I think the Utd bosses know this, and I would put a few quid on Ole
being your next manager, unless he starts to lose more matches then he wins.
 
What is a director of football?

A director of football is an executive employed by a football club to oversee medium and long-term strategy. They work with owners and the manager to identify a club philosophy and ensure it is implemented. The aim is to ensure that the club remains on the right path and is not forced into short-term measures.

At Old Trafford, a director of football would be tasked with implementing a 'United Way', which would set out what the club expects, what behaviours it looks for from players and what values best represent United. They may even have some influence over style of football, from the academy to the first team.

I googled it but feck it it was a nice description!

Like others I had no idea what the role of a DOF was and after reading this I still don't.

When I hear such empty 'management speak' such as Club Philosophy, Right Path, The Utd Way, I think David Brent is the ideal candidate.

Let the owners own, let the managers manage. Why the sudden need for DOF's? Seems like a bit of a fad to me!
 
I understand people saying Ole isn't a DOF. Can someone actually tell me, ideally without a Google, what a DOF actually does?
A DoF is someone who will solve every single problem we have with playing style, transfers, man management, training and facilities and will result in us winning every trophy every year until we get bored of that.
 
Forget Pochettino. He would literally offer us nothing that Ole isn’t now.

Plus it’s not like he’s won more trophies than Solskjaer or anything...
 
Is this an obsession that as soon as someone is doing a good job, we immediately think of changing him position? The last one was to try Lindelof as a DM as if we're a club who lack money to go out and buy specialists. Seen this several times here with several players.

We need an experienced DOF, not someone who failled massively with his transfer record at the 1st relevant PL club he got. I'd prefer a tranfer comity with several ex players as member instead of a DOF, I'm always against giving too much power to one person.
 
I can see, Man Utd fans wanting Poch, but I dont think theres any chance of him joining you, at this period of time, his got a fantastic team, five of the boys that finished last nights game, came out of our academy. Moving into a fantastic stadium, Levy and the fans love him etc etc

Remember this guy turned down Real Madrid, ( which is the Holy Grail for Latino managers) I think the Utd bosses know this, and I would put a few quid on Ole
being your next manager, unless he starts to lose more matches then he wins.

Was it before the City game this year, where Poch basically said he’d took the team far as he could? He was saying that he’d need signings to take Spurs to the next level...something he’s not going to get at Spurs. If Poch wants to win something, he’ll want to move. If he just wants to play nice football, he’ll stay at Spurs and he’s not the kind of manager that either United or Real would want.
 
How about ole as director of football and SAF for manager for a couple years? They'd work really well together, we'd have a top manager who can steady the ship while Ole finds his feet in the new job. Think that could work.
Bazinga!
 
Like others I had no idea what the role of a DOF was and after reading this I still don't.

When I hear such empty 'management speak' such as Club Philosophy, Right Path, The Utd Way, I think David Brent is the ideal candidate.

Let the owners own, let the managers manage. Why the sudden need for DOF's? Seems like a bit of a fad to me!
The last 6 years shows every reason why we need someone to stop a managers fecking things up and each manager having there own idea how they want to play.

The manager focus is the 1st team and short term to medium term success on the pitch and a Dof is medium to long term and philosophy.
 
the question is does the DoF however experienced share the club's philosophy

experience was useless in the cases of Van Gaal and Mourinho who were terrible fits for the club

it's important that someone is appointed who understands and buys into that aspirational vision
 
I can see, Man Utd fans wanting Poch, but I dont think theres any chance of him joining you, at this period of time, his got a fantastic team, five of the boys that finished last nights game, came out of our academy. Moving into a fantastic stadium, Levy and the fans love him etc etc

Remember this guy turned down Real Madrid, ( which is the Holy Grail for Latino managers) I think the Utd bosses know this, and I would put a few quid on Ole
being your next manager, unless he starts to lose more matches then he wins.
Not just getting Poch mate which they think they have a god given right to anyone and everyone. Thinking Ole is a director of football was my main gripe, some crazy assumptions go on the forum.
 
People need to get their heads around the fact that we can't have both.
 
Can we for once stop thinking emotionally and get things done on merit?

I am still split on Ole as manager let alone DOF. That DOF position is supposed to be the most critical position after SAF era and yet, we are going for an unproven unknown person and expect him to deliver our transfers swiftly ?

Come on !
 
Flintoff from crickett as manager and Phil from Eastenders as DoF
 
I’ve wondered whether OGS could be one of our footballing directors, when a new manager comes in.

As stated, he’d be one of, not the footballing director. Its not unusual for younger managers to go into it... Matthias Sammer did it.
 
I can’t see it happening, Ole seems more like he wants to be in the dugout getting directly involved with the players and tactics rather than taking a backseat role as a DoF.
 
Think the OP just wants Ole to remain at the club one way or another which is understandable to be fair.

DoF is out of the question for Ole considering the career path he has chosen, but he may consider linking up with Poch as his assistant under the guarantee that the manager's job will be his further down the line - emphasise on the may, of course.