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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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That ferry contract is laughably corrupt. Their t/c is copied and pasted from a Fastfood website.., founded shortly after Brexit.
CEO is apparently the brother of an ardent Brexit Tory doner..

It's best we don't investigate this due to the sensitive political environment right now it's not in the nations interest. Same as Arron Banks and the Leave Campaigns. We don't want to upset Brexiteers.
 
The 2nd referendum bridge should be more like:

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Did you use a french bridge on purpose?:angel:
 
I don't know if I was on acid or something when I first watched Thunderbolt and Lightfoot, but when the Jeff Bridges character died at the end I became utterly convinced Jeff Bridges was really dead. Every time he made a new film I was stunned, 'but he can't, he's dead'. I'm not sure I'm fully convinced even now.
 
Glad she has narrowed it down to all of the available possibilities.
At this stage her own political credibility / legacy is tied to her deal so she certainly won't rule out trying again... Equally her tools for the job are the threat of a no deal (to remain MP's) and not leaving - possibly via a second referendum (to leave MP's)

She's not going to rule anything out... Infact my guess is she goes for the vote early next week (Monday or Tuesday) and looses then immediately announces a series of non binding votes to officially try and find a consensus for anything but in truth proving there is no majority for anything before resubmitting her plan again ... Her gamble being it might be at that point seen as the least worst option by enough people... My gut feel is it won't and then I have no idea what happens (legal default being hard brexit?)
 
Does anything sum up better the current wretched, absurd state of the UK than the fact Chris Grayling holds a cabinet position?
 
Theresa May is too weak to sack Chris Grayling. Think about that.
 
So May is trying to get further concessions from EU despite them already saying the withdrawl deal is not going to be re-opened. She will come back in a week with nothing and we will be back where we started a while back when she backed out of the original vote.

Will she go through with it this time? I think she has to.
 
God help us.


Doesn't this just typify the complete and utter balls up that this government has taken us into regarding the dreaded B word.

Whether Labour would have done any better is open to question.
But it was a Conservative government that decided to hold the referendum and it was a Conservative government who quite obviously had no idea at all what to do with the outcome.

Rank amateur is too kind a description.
A government is supposed to show leadership isn't it.

Mrs May is trying to lead but her problem is that she is trying to lead down a path that the majority don't want to follow.

That is not leadership.
 
Doesn't this just typify the complete and utter balls up that this government has taken us into regarding the dreaded B word.

Whether Labour would have done any better is open to question.
But it was a Conservative government that decided to hold the referendum and it was a Conservative government who quite obviously had no idea at all what to do with the outcome.

Rank amateur is too kind a description.
A government is supposed to show leadership isn't it.

Mrs May is trying to lead but her problem is that she is trying to lead down a path that the majority don't want to follow.

That is not leadership.

That's because she wants to remain? How you end up with a government where this dozy mare wants to remain and yet is leading our exit is laughable. So a deal is pushed so people forget no one voted for a deal and then people say, you know what? Let's have another vote....cause the deal is crap but thats not what the referendum was for anyway. So no, she don't want to leave and never did and if the Eu ask her to roll over, she will because she has absolutely no interest leaving the EU. It has nothing to do with being anything other then two faced.
 
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Doesn't this just typify the complete and utter balls up that this government has taken us into regarding the dreaded B word.

Whether Labour would have done any better is open to question.
But it was a Conservative government that decided to hold the referendum and it was a Conservative government who quite obviously had no idea at all what to do with the outcome.

Rank amateur is too kind a description.
A government is supposed to show leadership isn't it.

Mrs May is trying to lead but her problem is that she is trying to lead down a path that the majority don't want to follow.

That is not leadership.

My guess is they simply don't have the qualified staff to pull off proper governance within the government mandated timelines.

Then we have idiots overseeing them who have no idea will put their signature on any old rubbish.
 
My guess is they simply don't have the qualified staff to pull off proper governance within the government mandated timelines.

Then we have idiots overseeing them who have no idea will put their signature on any old rubbish.

Quite right.
I said right after the referendum that the government; any government in fact has no real idea how to conduct proper negotiations.

In my job, I have worked with German, Italian, Spanish and French and know that when things get a bit tough, they can become very stubborn and bureaucratic and do anything but make a decision.

We ought to have been honest enough to bring in professional negotiators to assist.

We also absolutely failed to do the most obvious. When faced with a large opposition, divide and conquer.

Anyway we are where we are which is between a rock and a hard place.
 
This convoy is the lead story on rte.ie, but nowhere to be seen on bbc.com...

Surprising, or perhaps not surprising depending on your view of the BBC. Is it on bbc.co.uk, anyone?

As you say not surprising, they tend to hide stories that could get them accused of impartiality so it won't be headline news...until Grayling tries to declare it a success.