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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?

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Shambles of a debate.

May wants another two weeks, she'll feck up again, and then we're back to her blackmailing....pick her deal or no deal.

Tory MP cnuts are shouting down JC all through his speech because he's shutting them down
 
matherto said:
The David Moyes of Prime Ministers.
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David Cameron would have struggled with this government

Jeremy Corbyn is the level my cabinet aspire to be

I don't know what we have to do to win

We are going to make it as difficult for the EU as we possibly can
 
Paul the Wolf said:
See Corbyn still has not understood. Two hopeless leaders of both parties.
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Awful isn't it? Who are you supposed to vote for? I won't vote Tory but I've got no faith in Corbyn as a leader either.

Green Party it is.
 
You've changed since you became a movie star.
 
DavidDeSchmikes said:
David Cameron would have struggled with this government

Jeremy Corbyn is the level my cabinet aspire to be

I don't know what we have to do to win

We are going to make it as difficult for the EU as we possibly can
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They've succeeded there.

Brexit means Brexit also draws parallels with my captain shall always play. I.e. doing something counter productive because out of stubbornness or fear.
 
Klopper76 said:
Awful isn't it? Who are you supposed to vote for? I won't vote Tory but I've got no faith in Corbyn as a leader either.

Green Party it is.
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I feel you. In french elections I voted blank, I couldn't bring myself to support anyone.
 
I have a lot of respect for some of the senior parliamentarians across the house. In the absence of vying for position or power they speak their mind and often in the correct manner.

Unfair that they get lumped in with the other useless idiots
 
Paul the Wolf said:
That you cannot rule out no deal unless there is a deal and secondly that he cannot have a different customs union and have access to the Single market unless he complies by the rules of those. But we went through this in 2016.
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Based on what they are saying today, I'm fairly sure that we are in 2016.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
That you cannot rule out no deal unless there is a deal and secondly that he cannot have a different customs union and have access to the Single market unless he complies by the rules of those. But we went through this in 2016.
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He explicitly said rule out no deal in March, that doesn't require a deal it requires only an agreed way forward with the EU.

The language they use isn't helpful but they're two very seperate matters
 
Smores said:
He explicitly said rule out no deal in March, that doesn't require a deal it requires only an agreed way forward with the EU.

The language they use isn't helpful but they're two very seperate matters
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That requires the EU allowing an extension which is not in parliament's hands and in three months time, even if the extension were granted, there still has to be a deal at the end of the three months.
 
Smores said:
He explicitly said rule out no deal in March, that doesn't require a deal it requires only an agreed way forward with the EU.

The language they use isn't helpful but they're two very seperate matters
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It can’t be done (extension not revoking) unilaterally so it will require some sort of deal or compromise with the EU (why would they allow the extension without getting something in return (2nd ref)).
 
DavidDeSchmikes said:
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Corbyn knows May has a visceral hatred of him that goes well beyond party politics. There is absolutely no chance of May negotiating with Corbyn lead Labour, with a different Tory leader, maybe. He gets to look like the responsible adult in the room.
 
Rajma said:
It can’t be done (extension not revoking) unilaterally so it will require some sort of deal or compromise with the EU (why would they allow the extension without getting something in return (2nd ref)).
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That's why i said an agreed way forward. It's about starting that conversation now so we know but i would suppose that they would want one for the same reason as us, a lack of preparations and that a deal is best.

I certainly wouldn't blame them for telling us no given Mays approach but I'm sure they'll do what's best for their industries, is that the certainty of no deal?
 
golden_blunder said:
More than a bit sensitive there? I am off course kidding with that post
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YOU may well have known that you were kidding but to post potentially inflammatory words like those was not sensible IMHO.

For those reasons the post should be removed.
 
There is something of a ironic balance between the leadership positions of May and Corbyn which cancels each other out. May is fundamentally a Remainer leading a party that is mainly committed to Leave and Corbyn is a Leaver leading a party that is mainly Remain.
Like two drunks meeting on the street each attempting to pass the other, but without sufficient clarity of thought or control of their actions, both unable or unwilling to back up, or find a way around, they finish up holding each other up and no progress is made.
 
So looks like May could win a vote for an amendment... that has little to no chance of being agreed to by the EU. She is placing party harmony ahead of the country.
 
GloryHunter07 said:
So looks like May could win a vote for an amendment... that has little to no chance of being agreed to by the EU. She is placing party harmony ahead of the country.
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If it passes = minor tory win, she blames the eu when it fails.
If it fails = she blames the opposition.

As you say this isn't an action to make progress on brexit but to set a narrative. It'll work with the media so it's no surprise
 
Shambles / Farce continues. Not really interesting happening apart from the Cooper amendment.

Nothing changed sine November / December, all getting very repetitive, as no one has a solution since May agreed the deal.

May asked to change the backstop in December after postponing the vote, and now asking again...

May cannot blame anyone else for the Backstop. May was very happy to have it in the agreement. (It seems it was actually suggested by the British negotiators) May signed off on the agreement happily, with the backstop in it.

She can try to blame others using her propaganda machine.

It is very obvious who is to blame for the backstop shambles. It isn't Labour, It isn't the EU.

It is Theresa May!
 
This is exactly how Aldi Germany started.
 
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