The only reason he starts is because the alternative is KPB
Yet I guarantee you he’ll be starter next season... just like I did last year when the exact same conversation was happening
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Yet I guarantee you he’ll be starter next season... just like I did last year when the exact same conversation was happening
Odd thing to say considering the last WC and the team Cavani had his best game against.
Cavani has been carrying Uruguay for a few years now and was even their main creative outlet at last world cup. It was different 5 years ago but in football that's a very long time.
Suarez was still better than him in that game, completely tore us apart.
Dominated the game offensively while spending 95% of it in his own half.
Suarez has been Uruguay’s best player by a mile in the past 5 years. Cavani hasn’t been the main creative outlet out of any team he’s ever played for, come on now.
And I love Cavani as a player, think he’s been underrated for a long time.
Really? I think this was Bayern's best game of the season so far from what I'm hearing of their season so far. Bayern fans can correct me.
On the flip side we have VvD back, TAA gelled back in after his long lay off, Fabinho back in his super star position in midfield and Firmino over his virus.
Barça are still too unfocused. Toothless. Match should have ended 0-2, easily. 4 draws out of 5 matches. Mini-crisis.
I thought that Martinez was key and put in a vintage 2013 performance.
Hummels was also imperious in defense and didn't put a foot wrong all match.
Kimmich, Alaba, Sule -> all very solid, and put in the hard work to nullify Liverpool
However, I thought James was shocking. Never got in the game, didn't do anything of note and seemed to struggle with the pace and physicality of the match. Weak offensively, weak defensively, in fact had his pocket picked a few times that could have been costly. Thought Goretzka was severely missed, at least going fwd.
He also thinks Higuain will light the Premiership on fire
Didn't Juventus actually sell him 4-5 years ago. Why the feck would he start now?
I never said that. Just that he’s a great striker that clearly improved Chelsea and that he’d obviously do well. And I stick by it.
I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t have a minimum of a 1 goal every 2 games for the next year.
That’s great logic right there, I guess they wouldn’t start Pogba either then.
They didn’t sell him because he wasn’t good enough ffs... he was incredible for them.
They’re starting a Sami Khedira that’s been ready for the MLS for at least a year, of course Vidal would be starting for them. Aaron Ramsey will walk into that team.
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Vidal is literally in the same boat.
Didn't they both play the La Liga game at the weekend as well. That makes absolutely no sense given how much they're apprently prioritising the CL. If they scrape past Lyon they'll go out at the quarters.
Difference being that a declining Arturo Vidal is twice the player a declining Sami Khedira is
Are you trying to start "the debate" again? Please don't.
What the hell happened to Suarez these past 2 seasons? One game he scored hat-trick against Real and another game he played worse than Lukaku, a team like Barca surely can't rely on striker who's so inconsistent
Suarez is hardly the problem. Almost scored twice (unlucky) and layed off a great ball for Alba to shoot to the moon. He generates a lot of plays and is always heavily involved in the final third so when he fecks up it's noticeable. Another striker who generates nothing and scores no goal either will not received half as much hate despite producing even less.
Fan logic:
Active striker who generates plays + fecks up + scores 0 goals = OMG, SELL.
Quiet striker who generates nothing + scores 0 goals = "quiet game but the midfield did not create enough for him, not his fault".
Dominant away performance by Barca against a team that beat PSG and City this season. 25 vs. 5 shots. Lacking precision in the final third but understandable with Dembélé returning from injury and Messi also.
Also I agree with Peyroteo on most things La Liga, even though he is clearly wrong on Ronaldo vs. Messi.
Fan logic:
Active striker who generates plays + fecks up + scores 0 goals = OMG, SELL.
Quiet striker who generates nothing + scores 0 goals = "quiet game but the midfield did not create enough for him, not his fault".
Dominant away performance by Barca against a team that beat PSG and City this season. 25 vs. 5 shots. Lacking precision in the final third but understandable with Dembélé returning from injury and Messi also.
Also I agree with Peyroteo on most things La Liga, even though he is clearly wrong on Ronaldo vs. Messi.
It’s pretty simple with Suarez. He can't run, he can't defend, he can't control a football, he can't pass a football (save for a wonderful cross or though-ball here and there), I'm talking the simple, basic stuff.
Luis was the world's best 9 for quite some time, at Liverpool and with Barca. But he should call Mascherano and learn a thing or two about leaving with a bit of grace. He's below Barca’s level now.
The dude will have the occasional scoring spree in La Liga (mostly down to Messi), but he will do nothing in the CL.
The guy hasnt scored an away goal in the CL since September 2015 (!) for crying out loud. That’s 16 matches with 52 shots and no goals (and also 0 assists).
Just this season he has missed 24 ‘big chances’. Number of sitters missed by Suarez is just one aspect though as mentioned before. Suarez routinely fecks up potential goal scoring opportunties with a clumsy pass or a horrible first touch. He still scores a decent number of goals, yet these goals come in bunches, and his dry spells when he does nothing stat wise combined with his overall crappy play and messing up attacks constantly should make Barca bench him. Disgusting how Suarez can still start for Barca. And it’s baffling that some football fans still defend him.
Barca’s Valverde doesn’t dare doing that though, even though it’s the right thing.
Luis was the world's best 9 for quite some time, at Liverpool and with Barca. But he should call Mascherano and learn a thing or two about leaving with a bit of grace. He's below Barca’s level now.
The dude will have the occasional scoring spree in La Liga (mostly down to Messi), but he will do nothing in the CL.
The guy hasnt scored an away goal in the CL since September 2015 (!) for crying out loud. That’s 16 matches with 52 shots and no goals (and also 0 assists).
Just this season he has missed 24 ‘big chances’. Number of sitters missed by Suarez is just one aspect though as mentioned before. Suarez routinely fecks up potential goal scoring opportunties with a clumsy pass or a horrible first touch. He still scores a decent number of goals, yet these goals come in bunches, and his dry spells when he does nothing stat wise combined with his overall crappy play and messing up attacks constantly should make Barca bench him. Disgusting how Suarez can still start for Barca. And it’s baffling that some football fans still defend him.
Barca’s Valverde doesn’t dare doing that though, even though it’s the right thing.
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I'll be surprised if Chelsea take the option to sign him in the first place.
Pogba wanted out and fetched a world record fee.
Vidal was forced out for indiscipline, drunk-driving, training ground rows etc.
The only reason they kept a clean sheet is because Bayern settled for a draw and had no impetus to attack
Spot on.
Too many people view chance creation as the job of the passer/crosser, when the movement and physical capacity of the ones getting it is every bit if not more important.
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Yeah, I know mate.
You were the one saying he had been sold because he wasn’t good enough. I was the one arguing that wasn’t the case.
You’ll see
A draw is a good result at Anfield but I'm not sure a scoreless draw is a good thing. Liverpool have an away goals advantage where a score draw is enough for them to go through.
This is precisely why I feel Liverpool have the best chance of going through. A scored draw is good enough for them.
Yep: containment was the name of the game, esp 1st 20 mins. You could actually see the press cooling off, weakening as the game went on
Well, ill-discipline, training rows, suspensions etc are all part of performance. Juve decided to pull the plug on Vidal, so Juve didn't think he was good enough for them. Period.
He was the only midfielder making anything happen in the final third. I'd keep playing him.
Good result, good performance in defense.
We lacked in offense because we did not have a 2nd striker/OM like Müller (I was glad he was suspended, he would have lost way too many balls) or Goretzka, so Lewy was pretty much on his own in the box and because our.fullbacks played more cautious than in other games.
James and Coman (not 100% fit, mind you) were bad, but at least they showed effort and fighted. I do not think that Gnabry was as bad as most people here think. He was basically our biggest threat and always looked to go for a goal (compared to Coman and James).
Kimmich (who I also think was much better than most people on here think) will be a huge loss in the returning leg, as Rafinha is basically always a red card waiting to happen. I hope Coman is fit and Ribery and Robben will at least be options for a substitution.
We lacked in offense because we did not have a 2nd striker/OM like Müller (I was glad he was suspended, he would have lost way too many balls) or Goretzka, so Lewy was pretty much on his own in the box and because our.fullbacks played more cautious than in other games.
James and Coman (not 100% fit, mind you) were bad, but at least they showed effort and fighted. I do not think that Gnabry was as bad as most people here think. He was basically our biggest threat and always looked to go for a goal (compared to Coman and James).
Kimmich (who I also think was much better than most people on here think) will be a huge loss in the returning leg, as Rafinha is basically always a red card waiting to happen. I hope Coman is fit and Ribery and Robben will at least be options for a substitution.
Bayern will regret not scoring last night, they outclassed Liverpool at their own place but all for nothing in the end.
Yeah, no. Zero attempts on target from us. We had our hands full keeping the tie alive by not conceding. It's advantage Liverpool now. They don't even need to win in Munich, plus their defense will be better with van Dijk and ours will be worse without Kimmich.
How is it advantage to Liverpool. You haven't lose the game, so all you need is 1-0 win. Any team should back themselves to win at home, no matter what.
Of course it's an advantage to go through on any score draw, how is that up for discussion?
Well I think you did, when you wanted to attack you outclassed them in the middle and bypassed with ease. But very wasteful in attack, the fact that Matip came closest to scoring for you tells the story, Liverpool were vulnerable in the back and ordinary in attack.
I don't disagree, but we just were even more ordinary in attack. Lewandowski was more isolated than Sarri is currently at Chelsea.
What? You are not trailing and you will play them at home, how is it up for discussion that Bayern have advantage?
Had Liverpool won 1-0, then yeah advantage Liverpool as even 2-1 is not enough for Bayern but 0-0 is advantage for Bayern as both teams should go for goals and Bayern play at home. Any win is enough for them.
Some people have weird ideas of outclassing.
I think Bayern can go home with a feeling of job done. They mostly impressed me with their press resistance. We spent a lot of energy on the press and got very little out of it.
Once they actually reached the final third it was all a bit simple though. Get it to a winger and hope he does something.
If we could have maintained the same performance in the second half as we did in the first, I think we'd have won. Second half was a mess from both sides, to Bayerns advantage.
Still a very open tie. Bayern small favourites, but there's also a sense that if we do manage to score, they won't have the quality to outscore us.
I think Bayern can go home with a feeling of job done. They mostly impressed me with their press resistance. We spent a lot of energy on the press and got very little out of it.
Once they actually reached the final third it was all a bit simple though. Get it to a winger and hope he does something.
If we could have maintained the same performance in the second half as we did in the first, I think we'd have won. Second half was a mess from both sides, to Bayerns advantage.
Still a very open tie. Bayern small favourites, but there's also a sense that if we do manage to score, they won't have the quality to outscore us.
Bayern need to win whilst we can afford a (score) draw. You're basing your argument over who has the advantage on the fact that Bayern has to play at home. I could easily refute that by saying they'll have to attack us which will leave them more vulnerable at the back. They also had a grant total of 0 shots on target last night whilst we were without our best defender.
I'm happy with the result and we definitely have the advantage going in the return leg as far as I'm concerned. Score first and the tie is done.