I don't agree with this. Cameron understood that he messed up and he quit. Why should he try to implement something he didn't agree with? That's more honest and honorable that what May is doing. Of course we can still blame Cameron for the decision to have a referendum, but his decision to quit was the right one.
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I don't agree with this. Cameron understood that he messed up and he quit. Why should he try to implement something he didn't agree with? That's more honest and honorable that what May is doing. Of course we can still blame Cameron for the decision to have a referendum, but his decision to quit was the right one.
This is like Armageddon, but this time I hope nobody pushes the fecking button
Amendments to the motion called next week not the withdrawal agreement. My guess is May will go and a soft brexit compromise will come out of resulting action. The EU want us to go that direction as it only results in changes to the political declaration (i think).
The only options that might pass parliament are second ref and soft brexit right now so it's time they were taken seriously.
Ok that's a bit better. After reading the earlier posts I was thinking wtf France!?
The whole UK parlimentary structure has been shown up to be antiquated, inneffective and in need of reform. On an International stage to boot.
A lot hinges on the next few weeks.
I think enough is enough from the EU as well. Uncertainty is not helping anyone.
What exactly was difficult about getting a deal on the table? She set her red lines and the EU returned with what that meant.
I think she's about to go anywhere. There's nothing left for her to do
Yes it would have to be the political declaration. The problem is that I don't see parliament agreeing on anything, whatever it is, everyone's got an angle and there are about five or six different ones. Plus I think time is up, decision to be made in the next few days.
Don't forget that she is an MP for a party. She's just the 'fall guy'. Taking the hit for the team. Everyone will blame her and the party goes on.
oh Jeremy
He’s also a member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for his part in Bruce Springsteen’s E Street Band.Who is this plonker?
I dont. She took on a difficult job and failed miserably in it. She set a bunch of contradictory, impossible red lines and the EU put together a treaty that satisfied it. Her red lines resulted in the biggest government defeat in the history of what must be the oldest parliament in the world. Did she even have a majority in her own party for it?
You are supposed to share the information.
sorry yeah!
apparently he stormed out of the meeting with May, but trying to find more details
I feel like we're going to accidentally fall off of the cliff with a No Deal at the end of next week.
Unconfirmed but widely reported that Corbyn walked out of oppositions leaders meeting because Chuka was there. Unhelpful sod
Its not that accidental. 'Fall' is debatable too
What a bloody child. Seriously the future of the country at stake and he’s behaving like he’s in a playground
Pathetic behaviour! What happened to ‘you have to sometimes meet people you disagree with’? Suppose it’s fine to meet terrorists.
Yes!
Don't worry, Chuka won't be in a party again by the time his next round of media appearances comes around. Wouldn't want to have to answer questions on policies or donors.
This is embarrassing for someone who has previously defending meeting certain people/groups by saying you have to meet people you disagree with and only earlier today was asking if May was finally prepared to compromise to get through this crisis.
i wonder how many more times this is gonna change
I'm really liking the SNP and particularly Ian Blackford. I know they have their own longer-term agenda, but on Brexit they've been spot-on.
Was the cleaner allowed to stay in the room?
From the little I know, they seem to be a decent party. If I could I would vote for them.
Yes!
Don't worry, Chuka won't be in a party again by the time his next round of media appearances comes around. Wouldn't want to have to answer questions on policies or donors.
Fiddling while Rome burns. He's no better than Rees-Mogg.
So the appropriate response was to walk out? Weird he didn't do that with Hamas or the IRA but Chuka Umuna is clearly a step too far with 9 days to sort out this absolute shit show.
He'd be a better opposition leader than limp wet lettuce Corbyn.
idk why you wouldn't believe 100% of what vince cable and chuka umuna say
Does anyone know which Chuka turned up? The one who didn't want Labour to back a second referendum, the one who does want a second referendum or the one who wanted to end Freedom of Movement?
I said a lie. Not an accurate narrative of what is happening nd May's blame game