I'd be surprised if he left. He is first choice under this manager, seems to love the club and be well settled in the team. Plus he's gotta be odds on favourite to be our next captain. Good luck to him if he does go, he's always worked hard and gave his all. We shouldn't be in this position though, if we want to keep him then he should have been tied down to a contract 18 months ago. Poor effort from the suits running the club.
Ander Herrera to PSG? | Gone.
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Has become a big player for us, there’s no doubt. He’s not exceptional in terms of quality but he’s an important player.
Disgraceful mismanagement if this happens.
Disgraceful mismanagement if this happens.
Really hope he stays but could care less if he goes.
It's disgraceful whether or not he opts to leave. Important players' contracts allowed to run down is one of the main highlights of the absolute ineptitude of the board.
What if players are running them down because they have no idea who their next manager will be or if the club will be any nearer to competing for major trophies?
I think he's repeatedly said he wants to stay and sign a new deal. Same goes for de Gea.
If there are any instances like you suggest, you sell when there is still value to be had.
Except they could have targeted Pogba instead if they just want to annoy us.
sure?
I saw rumours linking him with inter Milan a few weeks ago. maybe something changed I don't know.
He's vital to their midfield and I can't see him leaving that easily. He won't be the one getting displaced by De Jong imo.
Mata should be arguing about not getting a big pay cut never mind better terms. 
Herrera... I can see a case for maybe giving him up to 180k/week. Any more than that is really pushing it though.
Again this is all the club's fault for a) not renewing contracts earlier and b) signing Sanchez
Herrera... I can see a case for maybe giving him up to 180k/week. Any more than that is really pushing it though.
Again this is all the club's fault for a) not renewing contracts earlier and b) signing Sanchez
Yeah well, he didn't control anything at the emirates when we needed him to. People need to stop remembering his handful of top performances when evaluating his time here, of which there are to few and far between.
Whilst I don't believe he's indispensable, it would be rather unfortunate to see Herrera leave at this period of time. One of the many things I like about having an academy/British player is that they don't tend to leave, and tend to be passionate about the club. Herrera seemed to be in the bracket of those i.e Rafael who seemed passionate without belonging to the aforementioned, both from his soundbites, and celebrations. To what extent is the source reliable? I would't begrudge him for leaving, but I would definitely be surprised. If he did leave, I wonder if we would look to replace him with a defensively minded box to box midfielder, or if we'd look for a central midfielder that has a propensity to dictate the game, and then have a DM in the Casemiro mould.
He doesn't quite have the locomotion of Pogba, or Fred, but with his first touch, he can take markers out the game which is necessary as we transition from the second or third phase to progressively moving further up the pitch. This season we've witnessed Pogba have his best period of form whilst playing at this club. It wouldn't be the worst idea in the world to have a system which is somewhat reminiscent of Liverpool's 2008/09 midfield which had an ill disciplined game changer like Gerrard in an advanced role, behind him included Mascherano who brought tenacity to the midfield, and Alonso who brought a semblance of serenity to the side with is distribution. Pogba making offensively orientated runs would partially alleviate Rashford from losing aerial duels, as Pogba himself is an aerial threat. Herrera brings the tenacity, and then we'd need a DM as unlike Mascherano, Herrera isn't one, and they would be alongside him to pull the strings so Pogba isn't caught in a limbo of knowing when to operate in the half spaces, and offensively orientated runs, and whether to drop deep to be a facilitator in possession which isn't his best role. Herrera at his best is capable of the Khedira role from Juve's 2015/16 system as whilst he shares the tenacity of Mascherano, his natural tendency is to press.
He doesn't quite have the locomotion of Pogba, or Fred, but with his first touch, he can take markers out the game which is necessary as we transition from the second or third phase to progressively moving further up the pitch. This season we've witnessed Pogba have his best period of form whilst playing at this club. It wouldn't be the worst idea in the world to have a system which is somewhat reminiscent of Liverpool's 2008/09 midfield which had an ill disciplined game changer like Gerrard in an advanced role, behind him included Mascherano who brought tenacity to the midfield, and Alonso who brought a semblance of serenity to the side with is distribution. Pogba making offensively orientated runs would partially alleviate Rashford from losing aerial duels, as Pogba himself is an aerial threat. Herrera brings the tenacity, and then we'd need a DM as unlike Mascherano, Herrera isn't one, and they would be alongside him to pull the strings so Pogba isn't caught in a limbo of knowing when to operate in the half spaces, and offensively orientated runs, and whether to drop deep to be a facilitator in possession which isn't his best role. Herrera at his best is capable of the Khedira role from Juve's 2015/16 system as whilst he shares the tenacity of Mascherano, his natural tendency is to press.
Personally, I believe it would be an inherently risky strategy to predominantly utilize Herrera as a no.6. People will invariably reference the game against Chelsea in 2015, as justification for why he can do a good job as the deepest midfielder. However, they fail to acknowledge that not only did Herrera switch off allowing Hazard to score the only goal of the game, he nearly made it a second goal deficit with a deeply underwhelming pass which momentaraily put the team in jeopardy. Moreover, they also fail to acknowledge that it wasn't the only game Herrera played as a DM under LVG. Indeed, Herrera was also utilized as a DM against West Brom in May. a game which we lost 1-0. More pertinently, Herrera didn't have the same galvanizing influence as Carrick, which meant West Brom were successful in there tactic to cede the majority of possession, congest space in a resolute defensive display.
I felt Herrera's best performances for us, were doing that spell following our loss against Arsenal in the Fa Cup, until Carrick had to come off against Man City due to a calf injury. By way of illustration:
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Even when we played 3-5-2, or a 4-4-2 diamond, he was still one of our best players as the RCM.
Having Herrera as the RCM, Pogba as the LCM and then somebody else behind them is the best way to go imo. I said in July that Pogba flourished when Marchisio entered the fray, over Padoin. The midfield now had a player capable of being a deep lying playmaker, whilst concurrently being a grafter, as exemplified by the fact that Marchisio was one of the solid, energetic foils with dogged determination to compensate for Pirlo's defensive frailties. With Pirlo, Pogba was more of a shuttler, but looked more liberated with Marchisio and a defensive box to box in Khedira. It's noteworthy that Herrera is very tenacious.
Or stop remembering single games and formulating a conclusion from them. The stats speak for themselves, no amount of revisionism will change how wrong you were about him.
So we need to ignore all his top performance and concentrate on one bad game ? How can a post be contradicting itself like that ?
I think his career speaks for itself. Everything you have just said, that's his top performance, and you can count them on one hand over all these years he's been here. If he actually does that week in week out, he'd be a world class midfielder with the likes of Barca and Bayern knocking at the door, and we would have secured his contract ages ago.
He didn't play in the league at Arsenal he was injured.
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Erm, they were knocking on the door? And the PSG interest doesn't count I take it... Odd point to make.
It is. He got injured first half against Liverpool, well publicised, then rushed back against Wolves also well publicised.That makes his post even more ridiculous.
The state of you. He very obviously wasn't in that game. But you're right, we did need him. Just say you wanted an excuse to bash herrera and go.Would be a kick in the teeth. Always seemed like a loyal player.
Sure its been said already, I'm not reading 10 pages of woody bashing to confirm, but is this really all that different to when players like Ramos use us to get a better contract for themselves? He'll stay unless we withdraw the contract offer entirely.
At Emirates in what year mate?
I'd be disgusted if he left. He's still young, very aggressive in midfield for us, and apparently loves the club. But I do not know what he's demanding so no idea if he's the one being unreasonable. Doesn't strike me as the greedy type but you really don't know a person do you?
Why Man Utd and ‘PSG target’ Ander Herrera are actually holding each other back
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This place is really something else, scratching heads why we didnt extend his contract, using current situation to bash EW. Tomorrow he can sign a new contract for X amount per week and if you dont like the number, here we go again.
Same for DDG, last couple of years and months people wrote in here "Give him what he wants" "Give him what ever he wants", reports came out with 500k per week demand and people went "Now hold on a minute, this is crazy, 500k!? Really?!".
Same for DDG, last couple of years and months people wrote in here "Give him what he wants" "Give him what ever he wants", reports came out with 500k per week demand and people went "Now hold on a minute, this is crazy, 500k!? Really?!".
Well, by extending Smalling, Young and then Jones, the club has already shown its "intent". Will be funny if the yardstick for Ander is suddenly completely different.
I was thinking of the wolves match, against arsenal we actually weren't as bad . if you think pointing out a players ineffectiveness is bashing, you need to grow thicker skin.
I haven't followed player wages since I was about 15. I have no idea where 180k or 500k register on the scale of normal rates these days and nor do I care.
If he's playing with us next season it doesn't bother me in the slightest what him or anyone else is on
If he's playing with us next season it doesn't bother me in the slightest what him or anyone else is on
So he's asking for £200k a week?
Well if one believes all the papers, Herrera wants 200k, Mata also wants something like that and De Gea wants 480k or something.
Hence none are signing
Muhammad Butt has spoken. We can leave now.
He came after an injury and before that he was great but you'll find anything to has him including an article on a well known site squawka football.
I am not one for meltdowns but keeping dross like Jones, Young and Sanchez and players who are past their best at this level like Mata and (to a lesser extent) Smalling only to haggle with Herrera is just absolutely ridiculous.
That moron ex-IB who fancies himself a director of football needs to hand over the reigns to someone who's competent and knows the sport.
Personally, the problem is not that I agree with the amount they're requesting but the fact it's the rational and understandable course of action because we have let their contracts run down to their last year.
We are all eager to sign other top players on a free, so it should be no surprise it's being done to ours when it was our club's management who let it happen, so they can extract even more profit for those greedy American arsewipes.
That moron ex-IB who fancies himself a director of football needs to hand over the reigns to someone who's competent and knows the sport.
Personally, the problem is not that I agree with the amount they're requesting but the fact it's the rational and understandable course of action because we have let their contracts run down to their last year.
We are all eager to sign other top players on a free, so it should be no surprise it's being done to ours when it was our club's management who let it happen, so they can extract even more profit for those greedy American arsewipes.
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Get rid simply not good enough, he balances the midfield because its broken to begin with its papering over cracks.
Ander has been here for 5 seasons and only within a 3 month stint has he started consecutive games and looked integral to our playing system.
The team we have at current, their capabilities is limited to top 4, Herrera is reminiscent of the lack of quality in midfield.
Ander has been here for 5 seasons and only within a 3 month stint has he started consecutive games and looked integral to our playing system.
The team we have at current, their capabilities is limited to top 4, Herrera is reminiscent of the lack of quality in midfield.
Well the fact only in the last few months he started regulary and has been an integral part of the team speaks against getting rid of him.
Is that supposed to ignore the entire season in which he won United POTY ?
Funny that many would agree with this article but many of those people would be delighted at the thought of letting Herrera leave for nothing and then splurging £50m on the inferior Kante .
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