Nah, Bercow would have declared himself Lord Protector for life with his son the heir to that title and Arsenal the state team of England with first choice from every academy.
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Fair enough
She could do, yes.
But with no majority for her deal, she might have been under pressure to tack left and incorporate one or more of the proposals into her own deal. If common market 2.0 had commanded a majority in the House, it might also have aided in persuading the EU to grant us a lengthy extension next week, to allow us time to negotiate along those lines.
With the Commons unable to coalesce and form a stable majority in favour of any one proposal, the EU will surely be reluctant to grant us more time (especially since that would mean us submitting candidates to EU elections).
No deal edges closer.
I never truly thought no deal could happen. I genuinely didn’t think that many of the Tory party were economically suicidal. Now? Who the feck knows..
"My granny was a Spitfire pilot on Concorde who shot down the Red Baron - I won't let any German bully me!"
Feck Labour man. Spineless cnuts.
Bloody Labour indeed
Please be a bad-taste April fool:
UK immigration rules ‘deny’ NI-born Irish citizens access to EU rights
Activist calls for UK to clarify changes to law, says it creates ‘two tiers of Irish citizens’
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ire...-irish-citizens-access-to-eu-rights-1.3846117
UK immigration rules ‘deny’ NI-born Irish citizens access to EU rights
Activist calls for UK to clarify changes to law, says it creates ‘two tiers of Irish citizens’
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ire...-irish-citizens-access-to-eu-rights-1.3846117
Most people I've asked would like to return home, but the money keeps them away. Fair and equal europe? I dont think so.
How does this relate to anything? Can you make a cohesive argument that stands to reason?
Was Europe fairer and more equal before the EU and freedom of movement? Are you living in a parallel universe to the rest of us?
Quite a blunt illustration that it's not parliament that doesn't know what it wants it's the Tories.
They're unable to get their own party to support their deal and yet won't vote for any other deal either. Incompetent and stubborn
RAWK said:
No doubt they'd find some loopholes to exploit...
Serves the cnuts right
Couple of knighthoods should cover it
Only thing left to try would be to combine the customs union and confirmatory ref motions, then dare Lisa Nandy to vote against it and still say she's the only adult in the room.
The Guardian's unsubtle photograph of the Prime Minister:
She's been wearing that blue zip-up coat for weeks, by the way, I've been monitoring the pics day by day. For a woman who's purportedly a fashionista, it's a strange thing to do.
oates says it's her comfort blanket.
oates says it's her comfort blanket.
Think Vince cable suggested that as well
I think by the 9th in practical terms there Needs to be a decision on any extension so it can be requested at the EU summit on the 10th
So basically they have a week to coble something together.
I've been saying for months may will eventually roll the dice on a general election if she can't get her deal through... Suspect we might see her try mv4 and when that fails call for a ge.
She only needs a hundred or so conservatives to back it as I presume pretty much all the opposition will
Sadly I suspect it ends with a hung parliament or a majority so small it's unworkable
FPTP has biased thinking in this country. Why the focus on a majority in indicative votes? Surely, there is an indication of support for the three votes that were narrowly defeated?
I still kept some naive hope they'd actually do something in the interests of the country over their own careers. I was wrong.
The whole bloody lot of them should be out on the dole queue.
To be honest the best Brexit commentry has come from Germany so far, but not Merkel.
Which is what Boles was saying. Shouldnt expect much else from the nasty party.
May be they just want a no-deal Brexit.
I guess they take the May approach and hope that as the deadline gets nearer MPs panic and call a Peoples vote?
My MP is a Lab remainer and he abstained. Annoying.
It’s the Lib Dem’s that get me. Can’t they see that a soft Brexit is better than crashing out?
I can’t see the Government giving them another chance at this before the 11th so a chance at a soft Brexit is looking off the table.
It’s totally mindless. It’s like the kid that can’t win playing football in the park so picks up their ball and goes home.
You're right, people are wrongly looking at the 50% threshold as a meaningful landmark here, but I think it has the opposite meaning. Ekeing out a 51% vote in favour of any option wouldnt settle the matter. The indicative vote would only matter if there was a clear majority in favour. Its hard to say what the number would be, but if, say, 75% of MPs agreed with a given path, then that would show a clear cross party consensus around a single option. At that point it would be clear that it was the Government that was the odd one out. As it is, whether its 49% or 51%, it just boils down to the opposition parties + a handful of rebels opposing the party of Government. Which in truth we already knew. This whole thing has just been Parliament procrastinating.
I suspect she's a fashionista in the same way that a nursing home carer describes the only woman wearing a coat that hasn't been shat on by a cat, and who occasionally brushes her hair as 'quite the fashionista'.
Who voted what is on here so feel free.
If you don't get that people are torn from their families chasing the money because they have to, then you don't get it.
People have always worked abroad. My company is made up of 90% foreigners, most from outside the eu. So why is FOM for people any use as a freedom?
Because without it many of those who get to live and work abroad tend to come from better off families, while the poorest kids don't get the same opportunities. And yes if you like you can quote some examples of how a poor kid went and worked somewhere outside the EU, but its a much higher barrier of entry and does restrict opportunity. Just like how poor kids occasionally still went to university in the past, but it was a lot fecking rarer than it was for rich kids.
Interesting reading. My MP, Derek Twigg (Lab, Halton) appears to be one of the few MPs that goes against the Labour grain on almost every vote recently but I'm not sure if that does or doesn't reflect the constituents. I don't know a great deal about the guy, just that he's been around for decades and he got a 72.9% share of the votes at the last GE. I'm sure my Corbyn supporting Mum goes on about him being a Blairite. I'm going to do some digging. I know that hes got a stranglehold on things locally in the areas that make up Halton so that he keeps his spot and has supporting voices in all the right places.
You have literally no idea what you're talking about. I was born and raised in Greece, where my extended family lives, whereas I've been in the UK for 18 years now. But I'm sure I don't get the pains and benefits of making a life abroad and you're in a better position to tell me
People are not "torn" form their families. They're not abducted. They chose to leave and it's a freedom they enjoy. It's not rocket science. People have always worked abroad but they have not always had the freedom to work abroad. If they did there wouldn't be boat loads of people drowning in the Med every year trying to illegally make their way to a new, better life.
If you can't understand and acknowledge the benefits of free movement you're too detached from reality to debate with really. Have a nice day.
Well yeah maybe, why be bog cleaner in your home country when you can clean bogs abroad?
You have literally no idea what you're talking about. I was born and raised in Greece, where my extended family lives, whereas I've been in the UK for 18 years now. But I'm sure I don't get the pains and benefits of making a life abroad and you're in a better position to tell me
People are not "torn" form their families. They're not abducted. They chose to leave and it's a freedom they enjoy. It's not rocket science. People have always worked abroad but they have not always had the freedom to work abroad. If they did there wouldn't be boat loads of people drowning in the Med every year trying to illegally make their way to a new, better life.
If you can't understand and acknowledge the benefits of free movement you're too detached from reality to debate with really. Have a nice day.
Right ok, sorry that me drawing on real people that have actually said real things to me in real life has narked you.
If cleaning bogs abroad let's you earn money you can then use to improve your life and the lives of your kids and give them better opportunities than you had, then why exactly is that a bad thing?
Our constituency has always been safe Labour but it has gone to another level under Twigg. From the six elections he has been in, he got a majority of over 50% in 3, with the smallest one being 37.5% back in 2010.
He posts on his website sometimes about Brexit. You can read the last couple of updates here and here (in the second one he mentions why he votes against another referendum).