I agree with you. I would want any US military personnel discharged for something like that.and I brought it up for those downplaying the video in the OP (which is IMO worse).
I agree with you. I would want any US military personnel discharged for something like that.and I brought it up for those downplaying the video in the OP (which is IMO worse).
It’s all good manGlad you could come up with such an intelligent and reasoned response.
Jesus you guys are a parody
Do you really not see how this kind of shit can feed into much more dangerous behaviour and radicalization? This video will be being shared by all the Britain First/EDL wankers and will feed into a narrative that 'our lads' in the army are on their side, and that when the inevitable revolution/societal upheaval starts they'll be on the side with all the power. But hey how do uprisings generally start? With one 'brave' soul going out and doing something outrageous to spark the fire.
If you think that's hyperbolic then try reading the manifestos of wankers like Brevik or this latest cnut in NZ. They genuinely believe that their acts of terror are going to act as a catalyst to massive societal change. And if you start thinking like that, then believing the fecking army is going to be on your side is not exactly going to dissuade you from acting on those impulses.
Even if they weren't in uniform, or even if the military weren't supposed to be apolitical, a video of them shooting at a poster of Corbyn would look bad. As it is, it looks terrible, and they all need to be booted out.Doesn’t surprise me.
In uniform = no political statements
I speaking directly to the picture posted under the spoiler tag of the US West Point graduate.Even if they weren't in uniform, or even if the military weren't supposed to be apolitical, a video of them shooting at a poster of Corbyn would look bad. As it is, it looks terrible, and they all need to be booted out.
I know of a guy who had his security clearance revoked and got booted out of the Norwegian military for liking some islamophobic shit on Facebook.
Did Corbyn do any of those?I'm not saying what the prats did is right, it's clearly not, and they should be disciplined but several posts mention respect for MPs, and someone mentioned influencing how the public treat MPs, maybe if the mps stop treating people like serfs that they rule and start behaving like this public servants they are meant to be things like this wouldn't happen.
Things like the cnut Rees-mogg accepting £7.5 million in taxpayers money to do up his wife's ancestral home while we have thousands living on the street, MPs stealing via expenses, having the tax payers funding cleaning their fecking moats, having MPs voting down legislation to make rented properties habitable and force the fitting of smoke alarms BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE feckING LANDLORDS, cheering when votes to increase pay for public sector workers are voted down whilst lining their own pockets, having private companies deciding who is fit for work and who isn't and driving people to poverty and suicide, giving multi million pound ferry contracts to a company with no bloody ships..... The only people responsible for the way they are viewed are the self serving bastards themselves
Respect is earned and not given, and they sure as shit haven't earned it.
Yeah, I kinda just wrote a spin-off to your post. Even out of uniform, active duty personnel need to be mindful of how they conduct themselves was my point, I guess.I speaking directly to the picture posted under the spoiler tag of the US West Point graduate.
I agree that the video is worse. They should be kicked out of the Army.
Agreed. I'd imagine the UK has something similar to the US military's "24/7 restrictions" on things like that to cover on and off duty activity.Even out of uniform, active duty personnel need to be mindful of how they conduct themselves
Not from me. You're the one making vague references to events spanning 10 years with no concrete details.
It’s all good man
Really? You just linked army people shooting pics to a mosque shooting in a different country and when pressed for details start disseminating even more.After remembering your posts in the China uighar thread I take back my comment that you are being oblivious.
Its more agenda driven posting.
Really? You just linked army people shooting pics to a mosque shooting in a different country and when pressed for details start disseminating even more.
And what is your point here...that the british soldiers did this for Islamophobic reasons?
fecks sake pillow pay attention for once
The same posters would appreciate if someone was shown shooting at Trump's picture.
Have they done so pillow? Cos if they haven't then you should shut the feck up about it and start making an argument that isn't shit.
I've made my point. I see this as a prank and not as a spark for the next military coup.
NoCan you stop making your point now that you have made it, that would be great cheers.
No one is equating this with the mosque shooting. Right-wing extremists think there's a culture war coming, and they view the left (and immigrants) as the enemy. Politicians like Corbyn are people they quite literally want to see shot for their "crimes".Really? You just linked army people shooting pics to a mosque shooting in a different country and when pressed for details start disseminating even more.
And what is your point here...that the british soldiers did this for Islamophobic reasons?
The same posters would appreciate if someone was shown shooting at Trump's picture.
The same posters would appreciate if someone was shown shooting at Trump's picture.
False.The same posters would appreciate if someone was shown shooting at Trump's picture.
Do you really not see how this kind of shit can feed into much more dangerous behaviour and radicalization? This video will be being shared by all the Britain First/EDL wankers and will feed into a narrative that 'our lads' in the army are on their side, and that when the inevitable revolution/societal upheaval starts they'll be on the side with all the power. But hey how do uprisings generally start? With one 'brave' soul going out and doing something outrageous to spark the fire.
If you think that's hyperbolic then try reading the manifestos of wankers like Brevik or this latest cnut in NZ. They genuinely believe that their acts of terror are going to act as a catalyst to massive societal change. And if you start thinking like that, then believing the fecking army is going to be on your side is not exactly going to dissuade you from acting on those impulses.
You're having a bit of a mare here, buddy.
Read this article and then tell me whether you think the kind of behaviour depicted in the video doesn't feed into this chap's mentality: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-44798649
YesDid Corbyn do any of those?
If a US soldier had done what’s in that video, Article 88 of the UCMJ says they would be court martialed.It’s a pictureThe exaggeration going on in here is insane.
Which? I don't recognise any of his actions on that list.
No one is equating this with the mosque shooting. Right-wing extremists think there's a culture war coming, and they view the left (and immigrants) as the enemy. Politicians like Corbyn are people they quite literally want to see shot for their "crimes".
They see shit like this video as confirmation that the military is on their side, and will stand shoulder to shoulder with them in the fight against libtards and immigrants. This idea might embolden some violent loon into going out and killing their enemies in the hope that them doing so will be the spark that ignites the racist revolution. That's the outcome both Breivik and the guy in NZ hoped for, and there will likely be more like them.
I think he's probably just too ignorant to accept that there's factors that influence terrorist shootings beyond them being mentally ill or an evil person.
Only explanation for him not understanding the very simple notion discussed.
Ethnic minorities who have ties to Al-Qaeda?
I think he's probably just too ignorant to accept that there's factors that influence terrorist shootings beyond them being mentally ill or an evil person.
Only explanation for him not understanding the very simple notion discussed.
Not really. Direct implication is they don't like Corbyn (as a person) and/or his (far left) policies.They are probably not the only ones in UK. I just find it hard to tie this event to Islamophobia in specific.
MJJ's answer to every single current political turmoil is Islamophobia, either direct or indirect and backed by 10 years of data he won't provide links to. So I don't really engage him anymore in CE.
Oh man, its actually a bit hilarious how badly you are missing the point.
You genuinely don't see how a group of soldiers, wearing uniform, shooting at the picture of a politician frequently described in the media as a communist, Marxist, terrorist sympathiser etc is problematic?Please enlighten me.
Please enlighten me.
Really? which ones?
He was clearly, clearly making a broader point about MP’s in general and not specific to Corbyn.Which? I don't recognise any of his actions on that list.
Things like the cnut Rees-mogg accepting £7.5 million in taxpayers money to do up his wife's ancestral home while we have thousands living on the street - unless she's a bigamist she's not Corbyn's wife
MPs stealing via expenses - What false claims did he make?
having the tax payers funding cleaning their fecking moats - the Sun might claim the puddle outside his gate is a taxpayer funded moat, but I can assure you it's not
having MPs voting down legislation to make rented properties habitable and force the fitting of smoke alarms BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE feckING LANDLORDS, - not Corbyn https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-homes-having-be-made-fit-live-in/
cheering when votes to increase pay for public sector workers are voted down whilst lining their own pockets - I sincerely doubt Corbyn cheered for this,
having private companies deciding who is fit for work and who isn't and driving people to poverty and suicide -Not Corbyn's policy
giving multi million pound ferry contracts to a company with no bloody ships..... - Not Corbyn's policy
In summary, please stop lying or you'll end up working for the Daily Mail.
Point conceded, but he is every single bit as self serving, and undeserving of his position as the rest of themWhich? I don't recognise any of his actions on that list.
Things like the cnut Rees-mogg accepting £7.5 million in taxpayers money to do up his wife's ancestral home while we have thousands living on the street - unless she's a bigamist she's not Corbyn's wife
MPs stealing via expenses - What false claims did he make?
having the tax payers funding cleaning their fecking moats - the Sun might claim the puddle outside his gate is a taxpayer funded moat, but I can assure you it's not
having MPs voting down legislation to make rented properties habitable and force the fitting of smoke alarms BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE feckING LANDLORDS, - not Corbyn https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-homes-having-be-made-fit-live-in/
cheering when votes to increase pay for public sector workers are voted down whilst lining their own pockets - I sincerely doubt Corbyn cheered for this,
having private companies deciding who is fit for work and who isn't and driving people to poverty and suicide -Not Corbyn's policy
giving multi million pound ferry contracts to a company with no bloody ships..... - Not Corbyn's policy
In summary, please stop lying or you'll end up working for the Daily Mail.
Thank you!He was clearly, clearly making a broader point about MP’s in general and not specific to Corbyn.
Did Corbyn do any of those?
He was clearly, clearly making a broader point about MP’s in general and not specific to Corbyn.
Thank you!
I was being silly, but my point still standserrrm...