WWC19 | Final: USA v Netherlands

I remember that, didn't Lloyd score from halfway line?

Just reminding you though shocks can happen in finals. Think Holland will beat Sweden and they're not a bad team, got a good striker upfront who plays for Arsenal who's scored a few in this WC.

You can score against this US team, no clean sheets in the knock out rounds but have to admit their general game management when in front in games is superb and that's the difference.


Don't think they managed this game at all well, tbh. Massively faded in the second half and let's face it, England had it on a plate to score and messed it up.

They're the best team at the competition though and played very well in the first half, pressed us out of the game for long stretches.
 
No, but it makes it the opposite of 'clear and obvious' :lol:
I don't know what the clear and obvious stuff is about, but once you spotted the contact (and they gave a couple of excellent angles where it became clear), it was obvious that the contact kept her from hitting the ball. So it was the correct decision. Isn't that all that matters?
 
I agree. Remember when the rule was there had to be daylight between attacker and last defender for offside to be called. Much better rule.

Am I imagining things or was there something about “has to be daylight between attacker & defender” in the offside rule once upon a time? :nervous:

That was was the best interpretation of the rule, also I’m pretty sure Van Nistlerooy use to attempt to exploit the rule by extending his arm outright to play himself onside.
Further on from the daylight stuff, can see below that it has never been a rule.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/3033085/FA-dismiss-offside-rule-change.html
http://asktheref.com/Soccer Rules/Question/3945/
 
Would Bardsley have saved those goals out of curiosity? You wonder if they will bring in smaller goals, a lot of women's coaches have mentioned it.
 
I remember that, didn't Lloyd score from halfway line?

Just reminding you though shocks can happen in finals. Think Holland will beat Sweden and they're not a bad team, got a good striker upfront who plays for Arsenal who's scored a few in this WC.

You can score against this US team, no clean sheets in the knock out rounds but have to admit their general game management when in front in games is superb and that's the difference.
Yep, completely shut down the opposition, giving no space at all.
 
No arguments over the course of the game. Regarding the penalty, she should have burried it down the middle. In those high pressured moments I’m sure you’re much better off just leathering it, I can’t imagine a keeper having the “bollocks” to stand up in that moment in fear of looking stupid.
 
I love you too mate.
As an Englishman, it's sore now, but if United start winning again im looking forward to your obnoxious posts there which could end up ticking off opposition fans :D
 
Don't think they managed this game at all well, tbh. Massively faded in the second half and let's face it, England had it on a plate to score and messed it up.

They're the best team at the competition though and played very well in the first half, pressed us out of the game for long stretches.

England had a little ten minute spell with offisde goal and penalty but it was never a siege at any stage e.g. flurry of corners or penning US into their own half. Look at the 7 minute of injury time, six of those were US just having the ball and winning free kicks in corners. Of course England were down to 10 men which helped them but they know how to get over the line.
 
I can agree with it being a penalty, I just thought without slow motion replays it would have been very difficult to spot

Well, yeah, that's the point of VAR.

I think people are getting a bit too hung up on the "clear and obvious" bit because ultimately, that in itself is a subjective term, which doesn't really help matters.

Essentially, if a decision can be made with the help of replays, it'll be made. My issue is with how long these decisions are taking to be made, but it's still in its infancy, so I expect that to get streamlined the more it's used.
 
Almost impossible to spot, giving it in real time would be guessing. So that's a win for VAR in my book!
But I thought I read that slow motion replays shouldn’t be used like that?

I give up anyway, I’m sure it’ll all be ok
 
England had a little ten minute spell with offisde goal and penalty but it was never a siege at any stage e.g. flurry of corners or penning US into their own half. Look at the 7 minute of injury time, six of those were US just having the ball and winning free kicks in corners. Of course England were down to 10 men which helped them but they know how to get over the line.


Never a siege, but if you concede a very narrow offside goal and give away a penalty I don't think you've brilliantly managed a game, and yeah after England went down to 10 and missed the penalty I think the stuffing was simply knocked out of them.

They do seem to *generally* manage games well though, against France after conceding they did well to calm down and shut them out.
 
Another reason it isn't a penalty. The defender doesn't initiate the contact. White's got previous for her wild swing & miss thing, too.
 
I would rather lose to Scotland, Wales, N.Ireland & R.Ireland than the USA, they are the most insufferable, bland bunch when it comes to sport.
 
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Just another Tea party.
 
English supporters, does it get old getting beat in the semifinals time and time again?

Dunno, it's a pretty new experience for us and sure as hell beats not getting out of the group.
 
If only this amount of americans would pop up in the USMNT thread...think this time last year I posted asking who was going to be next manager and don't think anyone replied for about four months. :lol:
 
English supporters, does it get old getting beat in the semifinals time and time again?

Genuinely still enjoying the novelty of it from the men's team.

Gutted for the Lionesses, but the better team won.

This is all fecking weird though coming from a yank given that your lot couldn't even qualify for the last men's world cup over a shite panama team, never mind reach the semi finals.
 
Oh the mens U21 USA team has a few good talents so you'll win the World Cup soon? The England golden generation had multiple top class players and done jack shit. Spain's u21s alone have players that play for top European teams so stop with your USA shit. I'd be disappointed if Ireland lost to the USA over 2 legs and this is the worst Irish side I've seen in my lifetime. Your overweight 300lbs NFL players aren't suddenly going to become top class footballers with funding FFS. Calm yourselves down you idiots, out down your flags long enough to maybe realise that you aren't the best at everything. I'll best anyone that USA don't win the World Cup in the next 50 years. A shite Rooney who a mid table PL team didn't want is one of the best players in your league and you have no top players at a top European side. Robbie Keane and Damien Duff are better than anything you have ever produced and that is in the 4th most popular sport in a population of 3.5m FFS.

@Sudesi newsflash you actually aren't that much better a nation than anyone else. Success isn't inevitable and you are years behind the talent the likes of Spain and France produce let alone a second rate nation like England.
 
But I thought I read that slow motion replays shouldn’t be used like that?

I give up anyway, I’m sure it’ll all be ok
I don't know the rules on VAR but surely those slow mo replays is what VAR is all about? How would they implement it otherwise?
 
But I thought I read that slow motion replays shouldn’t be used like that?

I give up anyway, I’m sure it’ll all be ok

I hate VAR. The premise was fine when it was slated to be used for the 'clear and obvious' but it's encroaching too far, second-guessing referees and linos.