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WWC19 | Final: USA v Netherlands
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England going ou in a SF to giant machine team after inches offside call and missing penalty. It’s just switching USA for Germany. Still, England has made a very good tournament, going so far, beating Japan and Norway 5-0, and being fairly close against the big favourites. You should definitely be proud of the development of English football the last decade!
Nah I've checked and can confirm your men's team still play Altidore and are therefore absolute and utter horseshite at football.
Some things never change...England going out after a shite penalty.
Overall though, really happy with how we've done. The expectations were that we'd at least make the semis, but we've shown in this tournament how much we've improved and that we are one of the best teams in the world. Still behind USA though. They exposed the weaknesses in our team. Can't imagine they'll lose the final.
Overall though, really happy with how we've done. The expectations were that we'd at least make the semis, but we've shown in this tournament how much we've improved and that we are one of the best teams in the world. Still behind USA though. They exposed the weaknesses in our team. Can't imagine they'll lose the final.
I do feel in 10 years they’ll be much better. Participation is going through the roof and the infrastructure is growing all the time.
100% This. They love winning like no one else and Sport they choose to care about they would probably dominate in.
Would back Ireland to beat the U.S, to be honest. When did they pass them, exactly? You're on a pretty similar level as teams go.
Congratulations on having a better league though, you know with all the money that exists within Irish football.
its still hard to watch this for a neutral
I feel like individual sports for females is much more watchable for some reason. team sports are just bad
I feel like individual sports for females is much more watchable for some reason. team sports are just bad
Yeah definitely. In terms of club football, we're massively behind USA, but we are pushing the standards up and that will eventually translate with the England team.
Their 2002 team was superb. Friedel in goal, quite a tight and athletic back line and young guns like Dempsey and Donovan upfront having breakthrough tournaments. That game against Germany they should never have lost with Lahm penalty not given and other misses so that's their what if historical game like a few of the England ones. Would've been a semi final v South Korea aswell which would've been winnable.
2010 I thought they had a decent team aswell. That tournament they were let down by Bob Bradley mediocre tactics and rigidly sticking to 4-4-2 when imo 4-3-3 would've been a better fit (could've played Donovan and Dempsey as wide forwards and had Bradley Jr more licence to get in the box). Could've got them to the quarters, last 16 didn't feel enough.
2014 they did well to get out of the group but were battered by Belgium so that was their limit.
I think a problem in past is too many of their big players just prefer the comfort of MLS rather than fully testing themselves in europe. Donovan came to Leverkusen and quickly scurried back. When he came to Everton in his late 20s he was actually alright. Bradley Jr was doing fine in Italy and then just went back to play for the Canadian MLS team. That has a knock on effect for NT when you get to knock out rounds of World cups imo.
People have been saying this for 20 years now and the best US team - by far - remains the 2002 world cup squad.
Just don’t. Let the sleeping dogs lie because they’ve stayed out of this, mate.
I mean I was literally responding to a post bemoaning the complete lack of discussion about the men's team when you were in disarray and in need of a new manager but go off I guess.
Failure to qualify for a tournament that happened 1 year ago - ancient history
But:
Tournament 11 years ago - entirely relevant.
Nice one lads.
The US were better tonight, but were also favourites. Bit weird that you've got people coming in here going "haha England semi-finals haha", making direct reference to a tournament your men's team couldn't even qualify for, and as if your men's team is anywhere near the quality of England's at the moment (or do 1-0s over Curacao and Panama close the gap?).
Disregarding him, we have tons of world class players like Pulisic.
Over 2 legs I would bet my bottom dollar the US win 9/10
One off games anyone can beat anyone.
On balance USA deserved their win. England need to learn not to lose their composure after things like the missed penalty. Too many bad decisions, two or three players not quite up to it. But the standard of football in the women’s game has come on hugely. The US goals were terrific especially the first header. Great entertainment, maybe one day it will be like tennis, where for me at least, the women’s game is better than the men’s.
We really struggled against the high press. Thought we should have gone for it a bit more and pushed more attackers wide right on the shoulders of their defenders.
One of the best ways to score seems to be a long ball over the top of the centrebacks.
One of the best ways to score seems to be a long ball over the top of the centrebacks.
Jadon Sancho made him warm the bench at Dortmund.Name another.
Looking forward to hearing about these world class players USA have.
Nothing to be ashamed about mate, your girls put in a good showing. Could tell how much you cared as you've been posting very early on before England did anything and got the 2nd most posts in this thread.
In fairness, we can't play Lukaku who's slightly better.
Shouldn't be tough to name them then
The thing is NO ONE as far as I have read have said that the USA is anywhere NEAR England. They aren't not at all. The funny thing is the overall hate it seems English have over the US. They seem "scared" of the idea of USA overtaking them in there sport in the distant future. So then you have USA fans maybe trolling? because England fans get so mad at the crazy idea that one of the biggest and best Country in the world can go and begin to produce top level talent and grow as they have been in the future.
Points made:
1.USA is not better than England.
2.USA has gown A LOT
3. USA will still grow A LOT
4. USA is better then Ireland (random)
5. English fans hate USA (?)
Well yes, but there was once a thread on here touting Landon Donovan as the first US born Ballon D'or winner so I was willing to concede that Pulisic is of a level that we can clearly indicate as "not bang average" and thus to them, probably seems like a premature reincarnation of Messi.
Brad Guzan
i just hope all of the players had fun
And what WC players do England have? Just curious...
He's not even the best Brad you've had in goal.
Hmmm, there probably are parallel universes where he's world class.
If there are an infinite number of universes though in none of them is Altidore world class.
I’m an American, but I can’t think of one.
I’m talking about the England’s women’s team. When I was at school I didn’t know a single girl that played the game, they didn’t do it in PE, there was no school team and no female sides at the junior clubs we played at. This was only 20 years ago. That’s completely changed within the past 10 years. City have to take some credit for raising the standard. They’ve taken their women’s team very seriously and have invested heavily in top facilities where girls are getting top coaching from a young age.
If Pulisic is world class, basically whatever 23 man squad was last selected all count.
That just shows you the absolute quality the other Brad was back then.
Not only the comfort but guaranteed money from year to year. Donovan, Bradley, Altidore, etc. weren't good enough to challenge at a higher European level consistently to have any financial stability combined with good competition. They are now/were amongst the highest paid players in MLS.
Just never really know what type of team US will put out every four years for qualification and WC Finals.