Im happy to give benefit of the doubt. But she's got form apparently. This predates the pregnancy!
Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-tyne-50470957
I checked her Twitter feed but there's zero mention of this in the past week. Obviously she feels this isn't as bad as Corbyn.
We actually talking about this over the manifesto? Tory spin-doctors don't get paid enough!
This is one of the many reasons why I can't take her seriously. Frances Weetman is another one, they're both a couple steps away from turning into Katie Hopkins.
Wait until she's at her lowest and then swoop in.
I feel genuinely terrible writing that
The idea is that Corbyn used the Jewish pronunciation instead of the common Anglicised pronunciation to other him and let him belong to the Jews because he's a notorious sex offender. That it was subtle code and a dog whistle to antisemites.
We all know the underlying argument but it doesn't make this particular smear any less absurd.
Not the poster I was replying to as they seemed to think it was simply and issue of incorrect pronunciation causing offence.
I don't think its that much more far fetched than any other type of subtle racism and coded messages that people highlight on this forum. I think the only distinction is that its Corbyn who is being accused and we always give him the benefit of the doubt because he seems so bloody cuddly.
In your opinion, is his pronunciation of Epstein antisemitic?
Jesus Christ, what's happened to Rachel Riley?
I wonder how Hitler pronounced Jewish surnames... probably in a similar fashion to Corbyn. Can't believe that it's only been 74 years since the end of WW2 and the Holocaust and we could be about to elect an anti-Semite who pronounces names badly as our Prime Minister.
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*that's bait gif*
I don't think there'd be any debate on here that it was coded antisemitism or not if someone like Richard Spencer was doing it. That's my point. A lot of Jewish people see Corbyn as antisemitic and/or soft on it because so many of his political faction have inclinations towards it.
Not sure that's an apt comparison - Spencer's very objective in life is white supremacy so of course it's easy to believe he would engage in coded racism, or any racism.
The question is whether you believe pronouncing Epstein in the manner he did was antisemitic or not?
I didn't even notice how he pronounced it 
That isn't the question though. The question is if you think Corbyn is antisemitic or not. If you do then it's perfectly understandable as to why you would interpret that as coded antisemitism. The idea that it could be coded antisemitism is not a fanciful one. It depends in what context you see the speaker in.
If I'm understanding correctly, if someone believes Corbyn to be antisemitic then almost anything he says, or doesn't say, including how he speaks can be interpreted as being antisemitic?
Sounds like confirmation bias.
Corbyn as hebrews tea, anti-semitism confirmed
This is what I mean
The idea that it could be antisemitic is not far fetched, it just depends on how you view the speaker.
Im no fan of corbyn as anybody who reads this forum knows
I think he has allowed the cancer of antisemitsm to grow in labour and i believe the EHRC report will confirm this
That said I view him as an incompetent fekwhit and I think any subtle coding is beyond him... but thats just my personal opinion and can see how others can see it different
I'm not seeing it personally, but i'm not Jewish so it's not my place to say.
As I said before I'd give him the benefit of any doubt because I don't think he's sly or insidious. It wouldn't surprise me if he practised the proper pronunciation not to be offensive.
I didn’t see the debate - why did Epstein come into the discussion at all?
Prince Andrew.
Rachel Riley now digging herself into a hole about Mandela not wanting to meet Corbyn because his anti-apartheid activism was too extreme
Rachel Riley now digging herself into a hole about Mandela not wanting to meet Corbyn because his anti-apartheid activism was too extreme
It's clear she doesn't do her research before posting, most likely spoon fed stuff and just posts it without thinking.
Rachel Riley now digging herself into a hole about Mandela not wanting to meet Corbyn because his anti-apartheid activism was too extreme
This is where she got her information from, it's an interesting read and there's a few good replies in the comments challenging some of the details.
https://medium.com/@twlldun/the-right-side-of-history-de2228da346f
Rachel Riley now digging herself into a hole about Mandela not wanting to meet Corbyn because his anti-apartheid activism was too extreme
Was tempted to just put a "You ok hun?" on her timeline but tbh I think she's just best ignored. Nothing will penetrate her echo chamber.
Carrying Jimmy Carr's baby does things to you form the inside...
Why is anyone interested in what Rachael Riley says?
She's nice to look at and a long term darling of the Cafe, but beyond that, who cares what she thinks?
She's nice to look at and a long term darling of the Cafe, but beyond that, who cares what she thinks?
I don't even know who she is. It's a constant theme of the caf, people driving themselves in to a frenzy on twitter over feck all.
She’s the millennial Carol Vorderman
I know Carol Vorderman! Never been bothered to look up exactly what a millenial is as I've never heard it used in a sentence that wasn't bollocks.
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That's one of the best tweets ever
That is absolute fcuking horseshit.
I speak English and French. In France my French is accepted as being shite, but passable. In England, if I pronounce Avignon, Provence or Cote D’Azur accented my friends, family or colleagues will rip the p1ss out of me. There’s no intent or message but it will sound different.
People are fcuking idiots.
I’m no fan of Corbyn but I’m intelligent enough to see that a slip in pronunciation is not indicative of anything.
Corbyn is not anti Semitic. He may hold views on Israel or Palestine that you disagree with. But his stance always seems to be grounded in humanity. He is not anti Jew. He’s not racist. His position is political.
He stood on stage, articulated his message clearly and exactly. If you choose to take a pronunciation over actual words then there’s no helping you.
I'd argue that you need more than 3 syllables to create a tune but hey I'm no Mozart.
they tried the same with bernie too: "not me, us" to the tune of "lock her up" said the journalist's now-deleted tweet.
Whilst it was ill-advised and rather fecking stupid to do what she did, given her job on the tele, does it really matter to you all what she thinks? Is her opinion that important? The way the "internet" has reacted is laughable.