Unsuccessful in an evolutionary sense, but still perfectly capable of successfully fecking our species.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Unsuccessful in an evolutionary sense, but still perfectly capable of successfully fecking our species.
Are we expected to get more details on where the cases were from today? Saying that there's two confirmed cases in "Fife" means feck all when the place consists of 500 square miles with the population scattered into hundreds of small towns and villages. I know other places will be wondering the same.
Agree, it's pathetic, and disgusting.
I genuinely wonder what the longterm outcome will be for the Governments that have adopted such a lax approach - U.K, U.S etc. I feel that this incident, and their lack of leadership will have serious, long-term ramifications for them regarding people's faith in them reaching breaking point.
After years (decades) of ridiculously poor leadership and unpopular policy, there has to be 'straw that breaks the camel's back moment'. This could well be it.
The thing is, closing schools and colleges isn't gonna collapse the economy. People working from home where possible isn't gonna collapse the economy etc.
Nothing has been done. It's pathetic, reactive leadership - see below.
Yes, it's reactive leadership instead of proactive leadership, and as Utd fans, we know full well what reactive leadership achieves...
A board like Utd is reactive - try and fix things after they're broken, people not fit to lead in positions of power.
A board like City or Bayern or Ajax is proactive - implement a philosophy to follow, prepare for the moves you wanna make, people employed in positions of power that are fit for the job.
The Government (at least in U.K and U.S) is reminding me very much right now of that Utd board - reactive, unprepared, greedy, talking utter rubbish etc.
Yes and no. As an individual you can be fecked, but as nature goes these things balance themselves out. I don't see it as feasible that a virus like this fecks an entire species.
Yeah, they've got a bad rep here. Peruvians aren't even grateful for the language, religion, culture, buildings etc.
I was talking in the ‘potentially kill millions of people’ sense, not in the ‘wipe out the species’ sense.
We perform exorcisms on Scousers whatever their condition.
where does the plausibility of this 80% could get infected stat come from? it seems ludicrously high, no?
The imam didn't say anything other than thoughts and prayers. Not really much they can contribute to be honest. Friday prayers have to be in congregation. The tricky time will be Ramadan which is a month and a half away. I was honestly shocked to see no one going round the grand mosque in Makkah. Haven't seen that in 48 years of my life and there are all sorts of viruses that people bring there, including Ebola from Africa.
Basically if we as the world just sit there and do nothing.
which is clearly not going to happen.
Still worth considering when more than half of the world is just doing that.
...thus far though...
I agree with the overall political statement of the UK, but generally this time round for the pandemic we as the UK have been on the ball since its come over here i believe if you look at the state of the majority of countries we are one of the few which are calm and have this planned out thoroughly. Yes it's scary watching number rise day by day but there is no significant cluster yet like Italy, South Korea which we can shut off yes it looks annoying from the outside that we have 160 cases so close everything down and wipe it out in a few weeks but unless the world is doing the rest your just gonna have to keep doing this over and over again.
We cannot test every single person coming in and out of the country its impossible.
Didn’t realize that you’re actually Italian
I watched a BBC segment on youtube that said 1 in 5 South African men under 50 have AIDS and they are the highest risk for this virus. I really couldn't believe those numbers. 
The second part appears to be anecdotal though, no actual figures for how many young people are presenting with severe symptoms. For all we know, the doctor may have noticed a few starting to arrive yes, but that does not necessarily represent a trend and does not account for the majority of younger, otherwise healthy people who are still self isolating following a diagnosis.
I watched a BBC segment on youtube that said 1 in 5 South African men under 50 have AIDS and they are the highest risk for this virus. I really couldn't believe those numbers.
HIV might be true, but fully blown AIDS is hard to believe.
Yeah might be HIV, still stunning though.
So we've had over 160 confirmed cases and so far only 2 deaths, both people who are on deaths door anyway?
Obviously it needs to be taken seriously to help stop the spread but it doesn't sound anywhere near as bad as what it's being made out to be.
What are the symptoms, cold, fever sore throat and a cough?
Obviously it needs to be taken seriously to help stop the spread but it doesn't sound anywhere near as bad as what it's being made out to be.
What are the symptoms, cold, fever sore throat and a cough?
I feel like I’m getting a cold. My manager had a cold/cough for the last week but is ok now. Important to remember those regular illnesses still exist.
I was supposed to go to DC tonight but cancelled it just in case. I have no cough, no runny nose, not really a temperature, no shortness of breath, more just feel a little run down/under the weather. A good rest should do me good!
I’m worried about my mum back in Ireland though. She has asthma and has had other lung issues including double pneumonia. I had pneumonia 4 years ago but I’ve not got sick since then.
The symptoms are a high fever, and not so much cold like, but from what I've read more lung-related, like a severe cough.
Also, the issue isn't the number of the cases we've had thus far, it's the rate at which it's spreading. A leap of 40 in one day is significant.
I'm not, i just live here. I'm from Manchester.
From the Chinese cases:
Symptom & Percentage
Fever87.9%
Dry cough67.7%
Fatigue38.1%
Sputum production33.4%
Shortness of breath18.6%
Muscle pain or joint pain14.8%
Sore throat13.9%
Headache13.6%
Chills11.4%
Nausea or vomiting5%
Nasal congestion4.8%
Diarrhoea3.7%
Haemoptysis0.9%
Conjunctival congestion0.8%
A lot of those are so common to other things.
thanks
It’s very early days for the UK and doesn’t just affect old people
Ah right, as you were. I was about to compliment your written English
Indeed, and so important to remember.
A 25 year old nurse is one of the fatalities, many of the health workers in China who died were in their 40s and seemingly decent health.
Just came back from Asda. As I was filling my basket with good, wholesome foods like oily fish, kale, broccoli etc everyone was literally stuffing trollies of Loo roll, fish fingers and pasta. The frozen section was bare and yet the delicious and vitamin C rich organic oranges and peppers that I bought were full to the brim! I think people may have their priorities skewed somewhat!
I don’t get how people can’t see A) they don’t need to stockpile and B) they should be doing all they can by maintaining a nutritious, balanced diet, supplement regimen and getting plenty of cardio and sleep. I know that’s no guarantee of anything but staying healthy and washing your hands are your best chance other than moving to a deserted island!
I don’t get how people can’t see A) they don’t need to stockpile and B) they should be doing all they can by maintaining a nutritious, balanced diet, supplement regimen and getting plenty of cardio and sleep. I know that’s no guarantee of anything but staying healthy and washing your hands are your best chance other than moving to a deserted island!
Look at Adamsk7, being able to afford to eat healthy
Thought someone might play that card! Honestly if you know where to look, eating healthy isn’t that much more expensive. I make my own granola for breakfast and it works out at about 26p a bowl.
Organic my arse.
Italy with another 800 cases today.
Average age of death is 81. Government said all over 60 but one news report said there was a 55 year old with a serious illness. All very old/ill either way.
96% in hospital in Lombardy, up from 50% a few days ago, but i think (not certain) its because they've made the military hospitals available and are sending everybody there so they don't infect others. @van der star could confirm that, hes a doctor in a badly hit area i think.
Average age of death is 81. Government said all over 60 but one news report said there was a 55 year old with a serious illness. All very old/ill either way.
96% in hospital in Lombardy, up from 50% a few days ago, but i think (not certain) its because they've made the military hospitals available and are sending everybody there so they don't infect others. @van der star could confirm that, hes a doctor in a badly hit area i think.
2 out of every Fife Scots have it.
Italy's 197 deaths from 4636 cases puts the death toll there at 4.25% which is pretty serious.
I watched a BBC segment on youtube that said 1 in 5 South African men under 50 have AIDS and they are the highest risk for this virus. I really couldn't believe those numbers.
Yeah I wasn't aware of those numbers either and I was quite surprised to read that. Apparently 19% of all people in South Africa in the age group 15-49 have HIV - did the segment explain why the men would be more at risk than females for the coronavirus?
Wonder what the Brexit result would have been if this had happened beforehand.