Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th

Dumbstar said:
We'll need confidence that covid 19 is under control in the next few weeks to allow BCD games to start. That doesn't mean players will be free of it, just that there will be a vaccine/cure already in circulation which raises positivity around Europe that it's no longer more deadly than the flu (as is the feeling at the moment).

Time for Liverpool fans that became crack lawyers in linguistics during the Suarez Saga to become pharmacy and distribution experts. :)

Come on, let's be 'aving ya, Avigan!
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Don’t do it to yourself, it’s over :lol:

Next year mate.
 
I’m at the point where I’ll be happy if Liverpool can be crowned champions after completing the season by August. I’ll be even happier if they can have a full scale victory parade the week after.

This virus has already made life more miserable than them showing off their trophies and crowing about being back on their perch ever could.
 
You've got Gary Neville coming out and letting NHS staff use his hotels for free then you've got Dalglish, Barnes et al coming out with shit like any talk of the season being null and void as 'out of order'. Says it all really.
 
MackRobinson said:
Why wouldn't they test all those involved before holding matches behind closed doors given what we know now? This seems obvious. The reason why we are supposed to avoid contact with other people is because of the lack of testing for the general populace means we don't know who is a carrier.
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How many tests are we talking about if you have to test 23 players per team plus staff and stadium workers for 92 games. What if one player is positive? You've exposed the rest of the players to the virus. They'll need to train right? You'll have them trapped somewhere for them not to get the virus? Makes no sense... What about expiring contracts? There's teams with up to 10 players with contracts expiring in june. Chelsea have Pedro, Willian and Giroud for example. Is that fair for them?
 
Dumbstar said:
We'll need confidence that covid 19 is under control in the next few weeks to allow BCD games to start. That doesn't mean players will be free of it, just that there will be a vaccine/cure already in circulation which raises positivity around Europe that it's no longer more deadly than the flu (as is the feeling at the moment).

Time for Liverpool fans that became crack lawyers in linguistics during the Suarez Saga to become pharmacy and distribution experts. :)

Come on, let's be 'aving ya, Avigan!
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A vaccine in circulation in the next few weeks? Try 18 months, if we’re lucky.
 
I still don't get this behind closed doors thing, we all know that Premier League teams dont need bums on seats (another thread to be made altogether about football forgetting what it's all about) but every other team in the football league needs that income to survive.

How do you expect teams like Portsmouth to visit Bolton with no reason financial income just so the Premier League can be finished? Unless the FA are willing to cover the expenses of lower league teams then BCD should be firmly off the table.
 
There isn't a single utd fan that would suggest the season should be null and void if they were top of the league, 25 points clear with 9 games. Anyone who suggests otherwise are simply talking rubbish and are deceiving themselves. It's that simple. Cut the crap and say it how it is. You want it null and void to stop Liverpool from winning the league.

When everyone puts their self interest to one side, do you honestly not think it would be more sensible to complete the current season before starting a new one when especially when there is absolutely no guarantee that next season would be finished either? Non of you and I include myself in this have clue when the 2020/2021 season will start. Imagine having two cancelled seasons. There is every chance there could be another outbreak. For the integrity of the sport the current season needs to be resumed and completed and the logistics about next season can be dealt with later.
 
Ciro said:
There isn't a single utd fan that would suggest the season should be null and void if they were top of the league, 25 points clear with 9 games. Anyone who suggests otherwise are simply talking rubbish and are deceiving themselves. It's that simple. Cut the crap and say it how it is. You want it null and void to stop Liverpool from winning the league.

When everyone puts their self interest to one side, do you honestly not think it would be more sensible to complete the current season before starting a new one when especially when there is absolutely no guarantee that next season would be finished either? Non of you and I include myself in this have clue when the 2020/2021 season will start. Imagine having two cancelled seasons. There is every chance there could be another outbreak. For the integrity of the sport the current season needs to be resumed and completed and the logistics about next season can be dealt with later.
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Liverpool haven't even mathematically secured the title. Till then, feck off.
 
Ciro said:
There isn't a single utd fan that would suggest the season should be null and void if they were top of the league, 25 points clear with 9 games. Anyone who suggests otherwise are simply talking rubbish and are deceiving themselves. It's that simple. Cut the crap and say it how it is. You want it null and void to stop Liverpool from winning the league.

When everyone puts their self interest to one side, do you honestly not think it would be more sensible to complete the current season before starting a new one when especially when there is absolutely no guarantee that next season would be finished either? Non of you and I include myself in this have clue when the 2020/2021 season will start. Imagine having two cancelled seasons. There is every chance there could be another outbreak. For the integrity of the sport the current season needs to be resumed and completed and the logistics about next season can be dealt with later.
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No it doesn't at all.
 
Inter Yer Nan said:
Yeah, they've really shown what their about with their selfishness on this one. I said a week ago to null it for banter now I genuinely want them to be deprived. To be honest all the luck and dodgy decisions they got to create the gap at the top pulled them so far in front anyway. Was never a fair title race.
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I’m seriously not bothered about whether they win or not. People are actually dying. Fvck this stupid argument. Void the season and if they’re as good as they say they are they’ll win it next year and be rewarded accordingly. The clamour for finishing the season is so misguided given the measures that the rest of us are having to go through. Selfish pr1cks
 
Ciro said:
There isn't a single utd fan that would suggest the season should be null and void if they were top of the league, 25 points clear with 9 games. Anyone who suggests otherwise are simply talking rubbish and are deceiving themselves. It's that simple. Cut the crap and say it how it is. You want it null and void to stop Liverpool from winning the league.

When everyone puts their self interest to one side, do you honestly not think it would be more sensible to complete the current season before starting a new one when especially when there is absolutely no guarantee that next season would be finished either? Non of you and I include myself in this have clue when the 2020/2021 season will start. Imagine having two cancelled seasons. There is every chance there could be another outbreak. For the integrity of the sport the current season needs to be resumed and completed and the logistics about next season can be dealt with later.
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Nobody really gives a feck now anyway, have a trophy if it makes you, Dalglish & Co sleep better at night. Some people are losing jobs, careers, homes, loved ones, or their lives themselves. The integrity of sport is way down on the list of priorities now.
 
Ciro said:
There isn't a single utd fan that would suggest the season should be null and void if they were top of the league, 25 points clear with 9 games. Anyone who suggests otherwise are simply talking rubbish and are deceiving themselves. It's that simple. Cut the crap and say it how it is. You want it null and void to stop Liverpool from winning the league.

When everyone puts their self interest to one side, do you honestly not think it would be more sensible to complete the current season before starting a new one when especially when there is absolutely no guarantee that next season would be finished either? Non of you and I include myself in this have clue when the 2020/2021 season will start. Imagine having two cancelled seasons. There is every chance there could be another outbreak. For the integrity of the sport the current season needs to be resumed and completed and the logistics about next season can be dealt with later.
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Integrity of the sport.....Jesus Christ.
 
Ciro said:
There isn't a single utd fan that would suggest the season should be null and void if they were top of the league, 25 points clear with 9 games. Anyone who suggests otherwise are simply talking rubbish and are deceiving themselves. It's that simple. Cut the crap and say it how it is. You want it null and void to stop Liverpool from winning the league.

When everyone puts their self interest to one side, do you honestly not think it would be more sensible to complete the current season before starting a new one when especially when there is absolutely no guarantee that next season would be finished either? Non of you and I include myself in this have clue when the 2020/2021 season will start. Imagine having two cancelled seasons. There is every chance there could be another outbreak. For the integrity of the sport the current season needs to be resumed and completed and the logistics about next season can be dealt with later.
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You underestimate the class of many Utd fans actually mate.

You also underestimate just how many PL titles we've won.

The current campaign HASN'T BEEN COMPLETED - Liverpool haven't won anything. I'm really not sure how this is so difficult for so many Liverpool fans to understand.

Again, you've won nothing this season thus far - you have no right to the PL trophy in any way shape or form. In fact, the PL trophy s currently still Manchester City's!

If the team I support was top of the PL in the current situation I'd do two things...

1. Insist that the PL should restart so we can finish off our winning season.

2. SHUT THE feck UP ABOUT IT AND SHOW SOME CLASS UNTIL THEN.
 
Dumbstar said:
We'll need confidence that covid 19 is under control in the next few weeks to allow BCD games to start. That doesn't mean players will be free of it, just that there will be a vaccine/cure already in circulation which raises positivity around Europe that it's no longer more deadly than the flu (as is the feeling at the moment).

Time for Liverpool fans that became crack lawyers in linguistics during the Suarez Saga to become pharmacy and distribution experts. :)

Come on, let's be 'aving ya, Avigan!
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I would love for this to happen in the next few weeks, and would happily see Liverpool crowned champions for a decade if it meant that we would be in this situation in a few weeks, but that's just pure fantasy based on everything I've read and the medical experts I've spoken to.

Edit: to clarify, the 'few weeks' timing is a fantasy. A vaccine will be developed and this will be solved eventually, but will take several months to a year and change.
 
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Ciro said:
There isn't a single utd fan that would suggest the season should be null and void if they were top of the league, 25 points clear with 9 games. Anyone who suggests otherwise are simply talking rubbish and are deceiving themselves. It's that simple. Cut the crap and say it how it is. You want it null and void to stop Liverpool from winning the league.

When everyone puts their self interest to one side, do you honestly not think it would be more sensible to complete the current season before starting a new one when especially when there is absolutely no guarantee that next season would be finished either? Non of you and I include myself in this have clue when the 2020/2021 season will start. Imagine having two cancelled seasons. There is every chance there could be another outbreak. For the integrity of the sport the current season needs to be resumed and completed and the logistics about next season can be dealt with later.
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Beyond a pathetic post.

As for the bolded... :lol:
 
Ciro said:
There isn't a single utd fan that would suggest the season should be null and void if they were top of the league, 25 points clear with 9 games. Anyone who suggests otherwise are simply talking rubbish and are deceiving themselves. It's that simple. Cut the crap and say it how it is. You want it null and void to stop Liverpool from winning the league.

When everyone puts their self interest to one side, do you honestly not think it would be more sensible to complete the current season before starting a new one when especially when there is absolutely no guarantee that next season would be finished either? Non of you and I include myself in this have clue when the 2020/2021 season will start. Imagine having two cancelled seasons. There is every chance there could be another outbreak. For the integrity of the sport the current season needs to be resumed and completed and the logistics about next season can be dealt with later.
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I want the league to be completed because there is every chance with Liverpool's waining form they will be caught by the end of the season. It is far from won and this could be the greatest choke the football world has ever seen.

But alas world events have interfered to deny us all of this comedy.

I am responsible and caring enough to sacrifice this potential Liverpool calamity for the sake of humanity. A shame you can't do the same.

End the season now all results voided. It's the only decent thing to do.
 
ariveded said:
Would top-level football industry suffer its first recession? This is argubly one big industry which has only grown. Then, there is the growing income gap between fans and players, how can it be tackled? Football is expensive and it's not sustainable model for common fans. Will elite players now be considered as rich people first than players? They are getting tested whereas common man is struck in a big line. It's probably a moment for football to re calibrate....
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Agree, but it seems unlikely atm imo:
The test has also been limited to the most vulnerable – so those in hospital, people in intensive care units and those with respiratory illness, especially pneumonia.
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However we're expected to have a new test that:
But what the government want is to have an antibodies test which can detect whether someone has already had the illness – and likely to be immune – through a blood sample.
At the moment, no country has this test – but Mr Johnson revealed today the UK is a step closer to having one
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Source: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11199763/coronavirus-testing-increase-25k-boris-johnson/amp/

But biggest issue with the all the current tests is accuracy. Simple or complicated, none is 100 % accurate yet. For example the tests used by China at the early stage of the outbreak has a notorious rate of almost 50 % false negatives.
“We’re very concerned about false positives, just as damning as false negatives.”
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Source: https://www.wired.com/story/everything-you-need-to-know-about-coronavirus-testing/amp

It seems it's really difficult to accurately test the virus at the early phase of the infection as well:
Tests may result in false negatives if the patient is tested too early in the course of infection and there is insufficient amount of virus to be detected. Improper sampling may result in a false negative.
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https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=228250#

Imo the idea of matches BCD with testing all the players, staff etc is only feasible if there'd be a test with 100 % accuracy available.
 
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Schools might be off until September, we're all in isolation but yeah football is coming back soon. Stuff like this will be the last thing to come back, no way at the predicted height of the virus we'll be wasting medical staff attending football matches. Testing footballers is irrelevant tbh.
 
It's inevitable in this meeting today that they'll say they want to complete the season. That's obvious.

It still doesn't take away the ever so slight issue that it won't be possible for the forseeable.
 
Ciro said:
There isn't a single utd fan that would suggest the season should be null and void if they were top of the league, 25 points clear with 9 games. Anyone who suggests otherwise are simply talking rubbish and are deceiving themselves. It's that simple. Cut the crap and say it how it is. You want it null and void to stop Liverpool from winning the league.

When everyone puts their self interest to one side, do you honestly not think it would be more sensible to complete the current season before starting a new one when especially when there is absolutely no guarantee that next season would be finished either? Non of you and I include myself in this have clue when the 2020/2021 season will start. Imagine having two cancelled seasons. There is every chance there could be another outbreak. For the integrity of the sport the current season needs to be resumed and completed and the logistics about next season can be dealt with later.
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Not really. "Integrity" of the sport doesn't lay in giving this season importance over the next one.

I do think they have to try and complete this season for sure. And it would be unfair to many teams if it was deemed to be null and void (us included). However I don't think you can disrupt a brand new PL season and clamp all over it's timeline merely to give Liverpool the title, Leicester top 4 and the likes of us a chance to fulfill our season targets. Get this one done by July. Or else fine an alternate way to determine the outcome (less matches). And then last sort is to scrap it altogether. This makes sense regardless of who is where in the table. And there's no reason to bitch about self interest when most Liverpool fans are doing just that.
 
Sandikan said:
It's inevitable in this meeting today that they'll say they want to complete the season. That's obvious.

It still doesn't take away the ever so slight issue that it won't be possible for the forseeable.
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They have to try and complete as it's only fair. But I don't think that should be sole objective as this Liverpool fan suggested. IMO try and find an outcome that is suitable by July. Otherwise scrap it.
 
Ciro said:
There isn't a single utd fan that would suggest the season should be null and void if they were top of the league, 25 points clear with 9 games. Anyone who suggests otherwise are simply talking rubbish and are deceiving themselves. It's that simple. Cut the crap and say it how it is. You want it null and void to stop Liverpool from winning the league.

When everyone puts their self interest to one side, do you honestly not think it would be more sensible to complete the current season before starting a new one when especially when there is absolutely no guarantee that next season would be finished either? Non of you and I include myself in this have clue when the 2020/2021 season will start. Imagine having two cancelled seasons. There is every chance there could be another outbreak. For the integrity of the sport the current season needs to be resumed and completed and the logistics about next season can be dealt with later.
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The irony is strong with this one.
 
There’s another issue with BCD...what happened at PSG the other day? The fans just showed up anyway outside the ground, the moment that happens here then the government will just stop the games. So, a team is stuck in the premier league relegation places, how long before a couple of thousand of their supporters decide to gather outside the ground....
 
Phurry said:
There’s another issue with BCD...what happened at PSG the other day? The fans just showed up anyway outside the ground, the moment that happens here then the government will just stop the games. So, a team is stuck in the premier league relegation places, how long before a couple of thousand of their supporters decide to gather outside the ground....
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Or if Liverpool win the League. Do you honestly think their fans are going to turn off the tv and go to bed after 30 years? BCD isn’t going to work
 
edcunited1878 said:
Liverpool haven't even mathematically secured the title. Till then, feck off.
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Well, if its null and void who will play CL next season? Top 4 from last season? One more season in EL for us then.

I guess you'd rather have us playing EL than LFC winning the league? If so, feck off.
 
It’s pretty disgusting that they’re trying to complete the season amidst all this, but money rules everything doesn’t it.
 
I think legally and for appearances sake they have to pretend they're go to complete the season, I'm sure every effort will be made to do so, but they can't they won't, and it's all leading to a big old meltdown when its rightfully cancelled and made void.
 
Dumbstar said:
That's all very nice and I agree with your sentiment even if I don't agree with your real selfish intentions behind that sentiment. Your intentions are as selfish mine if I may qualify.

In the real world, money talks. The PL, along with Uefa and FIFA, will do what's right. Financially. And before we get on our high horses, we individually pay them through our noses for that privilege.
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There is nothing selfish in those comments that i made in fact if the Season is declared Null and Void United have lots to lose so i'm not being selfish.

You've been preaching here for a long time with your Dumb (seeing that you call me selfish) comments so get off your high horse mate and i hope we get rid of you and your ilk as quickly as possible.

Null and Void.
 
Dumbstar said:
We'll need confidence that covid 19 is under control in the next few weeks to allow BCD games to start. That doesn't mean players will be free of it, just that there will be a vaccine/cure already in circulation which raises positivity around Europe that it's no longer more deadly than the flu (as is the feeling at the moment).

Time for Liverpool fans that became crack lawyers in linguistics during the Suarez Saga to become pharmacy and distribution experts. :)

Come on, let's be 'aving ya, Avigan!
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Hhahahahaha.
 
Judas said:
I think legally and for appearances sake they have to pretend they're go to complete the season, I'm sure every effort will be made to do so, but they can't they won't, and it's all leading to a big old meltdown when its rightfully cancelled and made void.
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Yeah same. They have to at least try then nobody can complain. No chance this league gets completed by 30th June without breaking national protocol.
 
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