One region in Germany has 1700 cases. In a day.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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One region in Germany has 1700 cases. In a day.
It'll be interesting to see the ONS stats on Friday, because I think the majority of deaths must now be outside hospitals (i.e. mostly in care homes) unless there's still a big reporting lag on care home deaths.
That suggests the government might want to reconsider their approach of counting everyone with a positive diagnosis, which was absolutely appropriate in the midst of the epidemic, and starting to discern those who actually died from Covid.
Yep, then they locked down and the R rate is back down below 1. Local clusters are inevitable, not even the most optimistic scientist have argued otherwise.
It’s not that simple though is it?
They discovered a highly localised outbreak in one factory from what I’ve read, and so tested everybody and found a whole bunch of “new” cases. It’s not like there’s been a wide spread spike in numbers.
Caveat: I’m as far from an expert on these things as it gets, just my understanding of it.
I’m not sure you understand how the R works. In Ireland we’ve had cases jump from 5 or 6 to 20+ in a day and the R didn’t budge.
No of course not - and neither am I. But a very small number of cases (1, as per Dan) can lead to a very big rise in R very quickly. I would argue 1700 new positives provide a rather more accurate rating of the R in this scenario. That's all I was saying.
Where I am, our R is through the roof the past couple of days but it IS tied to a very low rate of cases, and so somewhat less to worry about. For now, it seems to me.
@Dancfc to save double post.
Looking at US numbers, seems like California and Florida numbers are out of control and not peaked yet? Also that NY is on the up again?
Vaccine Update.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53061288
Although I hope the 'recipe' will be shared for free so everyone can make it, will we (UK) own the rights to it?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53061288
Although I hope the 'recipe' will be shared for free so everyone can make it, will we (UK) own the rights to it?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...ort-bubbles-lockdown-rules-social-distancing/
Who would want to be on a beach that busy at the best of times?
Who would want to be on a beach that busy at the best of times?
I don’t get the issue with the packed beaches. I mean obviously it’s rubbish to be on a busy beach but I don’t see what’s so problematic about it. If you’re on a beach in your speedos you aren’t going to be standing that close to somebody else are you, because that’s just fecking weird
Meanwhile, Trump is talking about closing testing centers.
Gotta keep those pesky numbers down.
I’m waiting on him to try and fire all medical examiners
It’s ‘looking pretty dire – pretty apocalyptic’: Doctor says Texas COVID-19 spike is so bad he doesn’t ‘see what brings us back’
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/it...e-what-brings-us-back/#comments_section_start
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/it...e-what-brings-us-back/#comments_section_start
I think the UK could do with a bit of neccesary panic.
If you want unnecessary panic look at Victoria, Australia. 20 new infections, nearly half of which weren't community transmissions, and the supermarket shelves are once again empty of toilet paper.
I’m just glad to know it isn’t just the US doing this
National: 30% increase on 7 day rolling average over last 2 weeks! (21000 to 30500 cases per day!)
Texas: 1900 to 4500 cases on 7 day rolling average over last 2 weeks per day in Texas!!
Same hockey stick spikes in California and Floria. Are those BLM linked?
New York seems to be over the worst and in the end zone?
I live alone, bought a 24 rolls pack in march and I still have 3 rolls. people are stupid
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We nearly ran out in March and like you bought a 24 roll pack and it ran out a few days ago.
Has this started happening again? Haven't went to the shops in the last few days so haven't noticed. It was ridiculous last time around, couldn't get any toilet rolls or kitchen wipes. Literally people were filling their trolley just with toilet roll.
I'm in Brunswick West which is one of the hotspots at the minute so trying to stay indoors and away from people.
I read somewhere that Australia was the only place that actually did run out of (or low on, anyway) bog roll. And that was what triggered the worldwide hysteria. It was an interview with the head of the big supermarkets in Ireland. Apparently the demand was so high they kept filling half their delivery trucks with bog roll until it got to the point where it was affecting supplies of other stuff so he told them “feck it, let it run out, everyone must have at least 20 rolls at home now”
200 infected in a chicken factory here , beaches packed the next day. What a difference.
This is interesting/good news.
that woman asking if they were all insane after an absolutely bonkers crazy rantThing is, they reckon the sun / heat is helping the slow infections, obviously not ideal on beaches that crowded.
The chicken factory is an ideal place for the virus the thrive so it's kinda expected tbh. Sheds the light on the way some of these companies treat their workforce. Protect the managers and office staff at all costs, let the guys who actually do the work all get sick. No real protection in place. Even where I work it's tick a lot of boxes and fill in bullshit paperwork to pretend they're doing something when in reality they're doing absolutely feck all apart from trying to protect the company's image.
No surprise 2 sisters food group is once again in the news and not in a good way.
America is looking like a disaster. Now seeing record cases after 120,000 have died.
So in a few weeks time, we could start seeing 2000+ daily deaths once again?
So in a few weeks time, we could start seeing 2000+ daily deaths once again?
Why are the American people not taking this situation seriously? I can't get my head around it. Protesting about their rights being affected rather than looking at the bigger picture which is about preventing deaths. And an administration that has been malfeasant in its handling of the virus from day one. Isn't the pandemic getting much media coverage over there?
I know it's a horrible thing to say but perhaps a White House fatality would be the only thing to make people take notice once and for all?
I know when BoJo got it, along with some of the cabinet, the government stopped fecking about.
The American culture is one of coming in and grabbing as much wealth for yourself as possible. feck everyone else. They're not at all suited to battling something that needs a collectivist approach to deal with.
They literally believe it's more important to have the freedom to not wear a mask (and will proudly not wear one to stick it to the libs) than someone else's life. Same with guns.
Obviously that's a sweeping generalisation and won't be true for a lot of Americans, but it seems like there are enough of them who thinks like that to make it an issue.
So they all have the mentality that someone else will get the virus, not them? Aren't they bothered about the case/mortality rates in the US. Obviously some of the Governors are, but shockingly some of them are not. We know the Trump admin could not give a feck.
Socialism! The devil walks among us, folks! Grab your assault weapons! Anyone wearing a mask is a dirty commie!
“It’s all just fake news hysteria and a liberal plot to take mah coal minin’ job...”-something to that effect. I wish that was more exaggeration than reality, but I constantly hear some variation of it.
Yeah but in one city (can't remember which), ICU occupancy was reported at 97%. Surely at a local level, that would be a cause for concern and dispel all the 'fake news' rhetoric?
Conspiracy theory looms have a retort for everything. They would argue that point by saying “ICU wards are always full! If they’re not, what’s the point of them?!”
There is seriously someone called Beige? Bet she's interesting.
These are ordinary Americans right? Is it misrepresentative in the way far right supporters are in this country (UK) or is this the average American (the sensible Americans actually being in the rapidly quietened minority)?
I ask as a worried caller.
Think the far right have been emboldened by the likes of Trump being their president and Brexit here and BoJo and his cronies. Think most of us thought the majority of people were enlightened and fair minded, maybe it was us that were the minority. The silent majority have found their voice.These are ordinary Americans right? Is it misrepresentative in the way far right supporters are in this country (UK) or is this the average American (the sensible Americans actually being in the rapidly quietened minority)?
I ask as a worried caller.
More constituents from the Florida meeting
And a couple in support
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And a couple in support
Obviously, there’s an absolute shitload of insanity to unpick there but let’s focus on the idea that wearing a mask is somehow dangerous? Are these American citizens actually trying to argue that a piece of cotton over your face will make you sick from lack of oxygen?
