You can visualise yourself enjoying a bottle of Aussie wine, but industrial ball bearings or some acid are less relatable.
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I didn't know about selling the quotas. That makes it even worse!
Here you have an article about it.
You can visualise yourself enjoying a bottle of Aussie wine, but industrial ball bearings or some acid are less relatable.
That's true but I suspect that he didn't even know what France was actually exporting otherwise he would have simply used Japan or the US as examples.
He won't have a clue. He's my mum's MP and a paragon of jingoistic, bumbling ineptitude.That's true but I suspect that he didn't even know what France was actually exporting otherwise he would have simply used Japan or the US as examples.
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No, no. You are absolutely rational and correct.well, I might be wrong of course.. but nothing the Tories are doing looks like deal-making or diplomacy to me
I am, of course, extremely biased against the Tories who I despise with every fibre of my being.. so maybe I'm the idiot
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Fluctuation0161
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That's not a plunge. That's a dip of the GBP toe in the no deal water, sadly.Weird thing is that if there is an agreement, people in the UK starting to believe everything will be OK. Have I got news for you.
Markets don't seem optimistic as pound plunged well under €1.10 already.
Paul the Wolf
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That's not a plunge. That's a dip of the GBP toe in the no deal water, sadly.
The pound will just get fed up with Brexit and throw itself off the parapet in the not too distant future. Presently just clinging on for dear life in the forlorn hope that it will all be alright.
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Press don't want to be blamed for the inevitable clusterfeck.
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true, it's all a gamePress don't want to be blamed for the inevitable clusterfeck.
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Deal or no deal? Place your bets now.
sun_tzu
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a deal gets agreed but then france throws a hissy fit and rejects it because its not in frenchDeal or no deal? Place your bets now.
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deal.Deal or no deal? Place your bets now.
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Thank you, that's a very illuminating read. I clearly remember the Icelandic cod wars back in the day, Icelandic cod was prized because it's just better - colder water = better cod, I understand.Here you have an article about it.
deal.
Deal, of sorts. And Germany pressurises France to not veto it.
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There will be a deal but in a few months people will realise it's a pretty shit one.Deal or no deal? Place your bets now.
There will be a deal but in a few months people will realise it's a pretty shit one.
Agreed.
The Times led its site most of yesterday with a story about ministers backing Johnson over no deal if necessary. The way it was written suggested tacit support from the paper.Press don't want to be blamed for the inevitable clusterfeck.
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yeah, it will be presented as a GREAT DEAL by the right wing mediaThere will be a deal but in a few months people will realise it's a pretty shit one.
It's a good time to have a poll @Damien , visible of course so people have to put their money where their mouth is.Deal or no deal? Place your bets now.
I vote Deal.
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I beg to differ on that. For example Malta had faced huge problems in giving state aid to Air Malta. As an island state, Air Malta is the only government influenced airline that Malta have. If it goes tits up then we would be completely reliant on the likes of Ryan Air and Easy jet
Beg to differ all you want but since CAP directly subsidizes agri-business and the EU has historically spent more on CAP than anything else it does its pretty much indisputable.
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Deal or no deal? Place your bets now.
Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Goodbye everybody - I've got to go
Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth
Nothing really matters
Anyone can see
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Done.It's a good time to have a poll @Damien , visible of course so people have to put their money where their mouth is.
I vote Deal.
Great stuff. It will be interesting to see which of the posters that have pontificated to us on a daily basis don't have the bollocks to declare one way or the other. I like there's only two answers, well done.Done.
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I voted deal as there has to be one or the UK is fecked. But with this shower of dicks in charge...
Paul the Wolf
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Voted no deal as the only way there is a deal is if Boris caves in, which he's too scared to do with rabid Brexiteers snapping at his heels.
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He will cave and spin.Voted no deal as the only way there is a deal is if Boris caves in, which he's too scared to do with rabid Brexiteers snapping at his heels.
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Why stop there? Ask them if they want to join the EMPIRE again, the glorious British EMPIRE. I have it on good authority that the Australians and New zealanders are positively aching to join back up like the good old days.
I lived in NZ for years. Old people have a fondness for the UK if they have a connection.
Most under the age of 40 have as much of an affinity for France, Italy, Germany though.
They’ve also elected a Labour government that’s being dragged left by a very strong Green Party. They will not look to secure expanded special trade deals that see their goods sent here and celebrate it.
The idea that the UK will get a better deal with NZ than the EU, without giving their citizens freedom of movement, is insane. Not happening.
Also - Kiwi wine that we buy here is the stuff they cook with. My girlfriend laughs when she sees Oyster Bay on restaurant menus here. It’s nice enough. But it’s nothing like premium over there.
Although.... their entire Navy is 4 boats. With only one combat boat. Maybe they’d agree to a resurgence of Empire if they could rule the waves with us.
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Any significance to Boris going to Brussels?
Paul the Wolf
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He will cave and spin.
He'd be spinning like a top. Having surrounded himself with ardent Brexiteers with them regularly spouting nonsense to the media, he's cornered himself. Brexit was an accidental bluff that failed - ie it actually happened when it should have just failed and the same will probably happen again with a no deal by calling the EU's bluff and failing again.
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It is not looking good.The pound will just get fed up with Brexit and throw itself off the parapet in the not too distant future. Presently just clinging on for dear life in the forlorn hope that it will all be alright.
I wonder if the vote was ran again, with the realities of Brexit explained, what the outcome would be.
Paul the Wolf
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It is not looking good.
I wonder if the vote was ran again, with the realities of Brexit explained, what the outcome would be.
I think if the vote was run again in six months or a year's time there would almost certainly be a different result. To many it is still just words, until they experience it they'll still not believe it while the media is still force feeding them with nonsense.
You know it would be a win for leave again- their position has become entrenched.It is not looking good.
I wonder if the vote was ran again, with the realities of Brexit explained, what the outcome would be.
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I'd imagine it'd be pretty much exactly reversed with about a 4% victory for remain at best. The Leave vote was never driven by practicalities. It's an, now deeply entrenched, ideological position.It is not looking good.
I wonder if the vote was ran again, with the realities of Brexit explained, what the outcome would be.
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Any significance to Boris going to Brussels?
He'll probably be seeking political asylum or buying sprouts for his Xmas dinner.
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I'd imagine a pm in the middle of a global death lurgy is typically pretty busy and probably wouldn't be traveling unless there was something pretty important... so its either to announce a deal or take a shit on the espace leopold ... neither would shock me at this stage but I voted deal so ill stick with thatAny significance to Boris going to Brussels?
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I think there will be a chicken scratch deal which will be seen as some sort of vindication.
I'd imagine a pm in the middle of a global death lurgy is typically pretty busy and probably wouldn't be traveling unless there was something pretty important... so its either to announce a deal or take a shit on the espace leopold ... neither would shock me at this stage but I voted deal so ill stick with that
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