Only you can make what Rashford is doing sound bad.. Incredible. I haven't seen you post one positive thing in my 10+ years lurking and posting here. Why do you follow United if it makes you miserable?
Amad Diallo signs for Manchester United
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Only you can make what Rashford is doing sound bad.. Incredible. I haven't seen you post one positive thing in my 10+ years lurking and posting here. Why do you follow United if it makes you miserable?
Literally this, I can’t believe anyone would criticise Rashford for spending his time outside of football to help with poverty.
People say footballers should be examples? What else can you do that’s a better example than feed kids?
I remember when the class of 92 were coming through. Liverpool had their own version of it was considered to be at par to ours. They had Owen was considered the best thing since slice bread then there was the older lads ie James, Carragher, Rednapp, Fowler. Finally they had a young Gerrard coming through who was portrayed by Liverpool fans as the messiah. I was a bit concerned about that tbh up until they showed up with cream suits in the 1996 FA cup final. Our kids were hungry, focused and at the cusp of greatness. Liverpool kids thought that the world is at their feet already and the lack of trophies that followed showed that.
A group of promising kids coming up together can go either way. They can focus on their football career and become legends or they can shit their careers away together and become serial bottlers. The difference between United and Liverpool of the time were the managers. While Evans was happy to keep the squad happy, even letting the Guvnor dictating his team selection for him, Sir Alex was busy getting rid of any negative elements that might be of a negative influence to his kids. Ince, Kanchelskis and Gillespie were among the names he got rid off.
I believe that United are at that stage at the moment. We got a group of highly promising young players who, if lead correctly, can bring some real joy back to the squad. Greenwood in particular is quite impressive. At his age he's better to any kid of 92 bar maybe Giggs. However the risks are there as well. Greenwood and Maguire had their share of troubles, Lingard and Pogba should have left the club yesterday, Martial constantly drifts from greatness to 'I don't give a feck' mode and Rashford seemed too focused on his non football related activities etc.
Sancho had impressed in the Bundesliga, a league were even Kagawa and Mkhitaryan had done tremendously well. He seem to have attitude issues as well. Considering that both Diallo and Pellistri seem to have great promise do you really want to add more attitude 'spice' to the mix by bringing in Sancho? Also aren't we better off spending that 120m in that defence unit?
Where have I said that what Rashford is doing is bad? What he's doing is great and it should be applauded. However professional football is a highly stressful and dedicated job. Gaz used to say that the only way to reach your full potential is to dedicate yourself to it to its entirely. I do worry about whether our kids have fingers in too many pies to be able to fully focus on their career.
Maybe Rashford should copy Mata who focused on the non football related issues at the dusk of his career.
Merry Christmas btw. I tend to have a special place in my heart for my followers. To my shame I thought you were a newbie.
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I think you underestimate how much spare time professional footballers have. You can equally do both and be 100% committed to your professional football career.
I hope you're right mate.
You're listing his charity work alongside examples of poor mentality & sheer stupidity by other players, not even implying, but straight up saying that he does it at the expense of his football career.
What he's doing is good. What raises my concern is at what stage of his career he is doing it. As said before the early/mid part of a players career is highly demanding. A player has to focus completely on his career so he can fully fulfill his potential. At least that what the likes of Scholes and the Nevilles used to say.
Id actually say dedicating himself to another cause is a good thing - being bored and sitting around is more likely to get him involved in stuff that’s going to get him in trouble (drink, women etc)
Footballers at the top level are often obsessive and narrow minded so having something to concentrate on when not in football mode will keep him focused. Rashford is the last person we need to worry about of being professional.
The best players in the world tend to be obsessive and self absorbed. Think of Ronaldo or Ibra as an example. There aren't many Madre Theresas in football.
Id rather see Rashford helping others then humping a pillow however I do worry on whether he is giving everything to his career.
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You would have struggled to find a decent video of Ronaldo before we signed him also.
The scouts have obviously seen something in him but it will be at least a year before he’s a first team player
Oh oh, a Harry Kane speech joke already
Well it's quite close to The Ivory Coast so no shock there
Ronaldo did lots of charity work, lots of PR work before he has his family that kept him grounded too. He isn’t exactly the type to be sitting at hone doing nothing either.
as long as they have hobbies and interests outside of football it’s a good thing IMO
Using Ibra as an example? I'm sure that it was his scissor-throwing exercises from the younger days that helped him score that scissor-kick against England.
Cristiano spent an insane amount of time and effort marketing himself up and building a business empire around his image. Same goes for both Pelé and Cruyff (the latter especially didn't hesitate to prioritise his business ventures over the potential on-the-field isues). Maradona spent half of his 20's coked out in Barcelona's and Napoli's night clubs. I'm only listing greatest players ever.
You could also point to someone like Didier Drogba, who did extensive charity work and helped bring about a ceasefire in his country inbetween winning titles, trophies and African Player of the Year awards.
The idea that sportspeople need to have zero outside interests to reach the top is indicative of an unhealthy wordview that isn't based on any actual evidence, as huge amounts of the top stars in all sports notably aren't robots with no interests outside their job.
The idea that sportspeople need to have zero outside interests to reach the top is indicative of an unhealthy wordview that isn't based on any actual evidence, as huge amounts of the top stars in all sports notably aren't robots with no interests outside their job.
"Joy to the World" was on the radio, and when they sang the next line, no joke I thought of Diallo.
"Fantastic. (With Diallo) we will go very close to winning the league IMO."
- Adnan from RedCafe.
This was underlined in a post from simonch as well when he cited his best friend who was friends with ____________ and heard the similar sort of superlatives. You only hear this level of hyperbolic gushing from established pros when the player is a potential world-beater. For example, something very similar happened with LeBron James just before his rookie season.
I was actually going to throw in a 'those silly southern-hemisphere backwards black Irish' but today I learned that Cote d'Ivoire does not in fact straddle the equator even when one includes their maritime boundary. Missed it by that much.
"Fantastic. (With Diallo) we will go very close to winning the league IMO."
- Adnan from RedCafe.
This was underlined in a post from simonch as well when he cited his best friend who was friends with ____________ and heard the similar sort of superlatives. You only hear this level of hyperbolic gushing from established pros when the player is a potential world-beater. For example, something very similar happened with LeBron James just before his rookie season.
I was actually going to throw in a 'those silly southern-hemisphere backwards black Irish' but today I learned that Cote d'Ivoire does not in fact straddle the equator even when one includes their maritime boundary. Missed it by that much.
Does he come on January 1st?
@devilish stop pretending you are hot stuff all grown up and wise in front of these newbies or I will bring up your old wum threads from 18 years ago again (when you were the clown of this site) where you met fergie and beckham and went to have a chat together and whatever adventures you guys went through.
Yes, and straight into the team as we have a match on January 1st, if I am not mistaken. So he would be able to play
He’s reaching Rodrigo Possebon levels of hype.
OK kev
Seems a bit petty, you'd expect he's probably not the same person as he was 18 years ago.
If it came down to a choice, I’d much rather Rashford became world class and fully devoted to eliminating child hunger and poverty, and not playing a silly game of football!
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It doesn’t get any better than this for young player, if you can’t get excited watching this then I think the problem is in you mate:
If Rashford’s charity work is seen as distraction from football then you could as well argue that footballers shouldn’t have kids before they turn 30-32 as parents obviously invest a lot of time and effort in them. Footballers have a lot of free time and as far as I am concerned I prefer our players to spend it with their family and / or charity work than drinking/partying, etc.
And anyone who claims/hopes Diallo/Greenwood would bench Martial anytime soon, let alone benching Rashford (apart from maybe for a couple of games) is daydreaming.
And anyone who claims/hopes Diallo/Greenwood would bench Martial anytime soon, let alone benching Rashford (apart from maybe for a couple of games) is daydreaming.
That's quite simplistic take on things it's because of this silly Game of football Rashford gained the profile and the visibility to make the difference.
I very much doubt that many pro players raise their kids themselves tbh. Regarding your second comment. If Greenwood and Diallo can do great on a week in week out basis then I can see them winning a first team role. That would mean some serious competition for first team places in the very near future.
Sounds like a great night
That video reminds me of Udinese Alexis Sanchez.
He partakes in extra training, is in superb physical condition. Players do not give 100% of their time to football, don’t believe the bull###@ ex players come out with. Scholes had a life outside football, as did Nev. They very likely didn’t get mixed up with drinking and being an ahole. But I can say Gigg was a frequently out on the town and got into a few scrapes, did it hold back his career? Nope In my opinion.
Marcus is doing all the right things and you’re getting into a twist about things you think he could be doing that detract from his Footballing obligations.
He looks immensely talented and while I know most of the Caf is taking the piss on him being a generational talent and a dead cert for a Ballon Dor, I still think some of you are serious
There were similar expectations for Depay and I remember getting some snide comments when I said he was just a poor man’s Ashley Young.
Armadillo looks more gifted than Depay but I don’t think he’d get anything more than a few cameos for the rest of the season. Hope to be proven wrong.
There were similar expectations for Depay and I remember getting some snide comments when I said he was just a poor man’s Ashley Young.
Armadillo looks more gifted than Depay but I don’t think he’d get anything more than a few cameos for the rest of the season. Hope to be proven wrong.
Do you live in a bubble? Is football the be all and end all of the world to you? I am truly amazed that you hold this view and go to great lengths justifying it too.
There is no reason for a footballer to have no other purpose in life except being the best he can be at football. Either way, these aren't mutually exclusive. You don't know for a fact that Rashford won't attain the heights he can if he doesn't gives up his "non-footballing" activities. Your opinion and anecdotes don't prove it at all.
Human beings need purpose. He has found a greater purpose than to just kick a ball and mint money. He feels deeply about the cause as he himself has gone through a similar situation. Expecting him to just let it go and spend every minute of every hour focusing on making himself better as a footballer is unacceptable. You want to change his value system? The club doesn't own him. He gets paid to do a job and he does it to the best of his abilities.
Amad will be destroying PL left backs within few weeks, people will be shocked by his natural talent. Best kept secret in football , I was told by Serie A ITKs.
United have sadly become the clown of transfer market but this deal will be seen as generational coup, very soon.
United have sadly become the clown of transfer market but this deal will be seen as generational coup, very soon.
Reminds me of Nani. Trememndous dribbling ability, speed and a good shot on him. He is younger which is exciting, but only time will tell if he will become a Ronaldo or remain a Nani.
I'll take a Nani everyday of the year and twice on Christmas.
In future its going to be:
1. Diallo
2. Mbappe
3. Haaland
4. Greenwood
5. Moises
No kidding.
1. Diallo
2. Mbappe
3. Haaland
4. Greenwood
5. Moises
No kidding.