That too. Bunch of school kids ffs.Or hater, the mind boggles
Brendan Rodgers | Rejoins Celtic on 3 year deal
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Both just disparaging ways to attempt to shoot down an opposing opinion without actually engaging in debate.
I dont think Everton have a better starting eleven than Leicester, neither do Spurs. I think Rodgers is a good manager, has improved and learnt alot since his Liverpool days. But with the team he has got i dont think they shouldn't be anywhere near top four as you stated. When i look at there team/squad i feel they should be around the top 6.
Continue to be amazed. I use many more childish words.
Yeah, that's clear to see.
there was a lot of bad transfers, and it's disputable how much control he had over those at Liverpool with their infamous transfer committee. One thing though, he or the committee bought Coutinho for 8.5 million and sold him for 144 million. They used these profits to buy VVD and Allison, who were the final pieces of the jigsaw to give them CL and PL success.Liverpool balance their books as evidenced by them not splashing out in Jan for a centre half when they clearly need one. Re transfers he may have an input, but he worked within a structure, so while I don't criticise him for the bad ones, I don't neccessarily congratulate him for the good ones.
That isn't based on anything other than a 'feeling' though... Name a better candidate. Still not seen anyone do so. Unfortunately I feel we are set to miss out on him as reports today are stating that Levy is lining him up to replace Mourinho. Why do we always come off 'second best' when appointing managers!?
There are quite a few decent to very good signings there. Some were unlucky with injuries.
Crocks - I'm not sure you can blame injury signings on a manager. That is just unlucky.
Ings (Good striker - Unlucky with that injury)
Lallana (Started off pretty well - a sharp player that was plagued by injuries)
Sturridge (Very good player back then - became a crock shortly after) - Scored 35 in 49 in first two seasons at Liverpool
Clyne (Was a decent player - spent most of 17/18 out injured - replaced by Alexander-Arnold) - First team when they reached top four for the first time under Klopp.
Milner (Solid player)
Firmino (Major part of the most successful Liverpool side in the PL era)
Gomez (Solid player)
Can (Good player - performed well at Liverpool and is doing well at Dortmund) - Liverpool wanted him to stay; made a bad choice not to do so.
Coutinho (Sold him for £130m, so a great signing)
Lovren (Decent squad player - probably wished they kept him this season)
On top of that, he brought through Sterling. He made a very good attack with Sturridge, Sterling, and Suarez, with Coutinho behind them.
But Liverpool had been buying rubbish for a long while before he joined. I think the club has a much bigger influence over signings than people think. Transfers with Leicester seem to be very good so far.
Pep’s reputation is built exclusively on coaching the best squads in their respective leagues - you can’t discredit Rogers’ achievements at Celtic on those grounds. Success is relative, and given the quality and budget at his disposal, I’d say almost winning the title with that Liverpool team and managing to get this Leicester team into the top 4 eclipses anything Guardiola has accomplished in football.
I would be very surprised if Spurs were in for Rodgers ! Apparently the lack of revenue from their new stadium has really affected them.The payout for Jose is around 35 mill & Leicester would want around 12 mill to let Rodgers go. I don't see Levy spending that kind of money right now.
Sure, that's why Brendan Rodgers is routinely mentioned as one of the best coaches of all time...
Let's see him win anything of note first, shall we?
I’d be happy with him if Ole were leaving, would people be able to look beyond his past with Liverpool though?
Think he has done great work at Leicester his teeth are something else though. What is it with Liverpool and these humongous teeth?
Very true actually, Spurs are going to have to stick with Mourinho for a while longer. I still think Rodgers is hot property and going under the radar of many United fans or being overlooked due to snobbery of our fans.
Brendan has won a LOT with Celtic. Yes an easier league, but he won everything for years (and even that is rare for Celtic). He had Liverpool competing when they had no right to be and now is doing the same with Leicester (who are top 6 at best).
Sure, that's why Brendan Rodgers is routinely mentioned as one of the best coaches of all time...
Let's see him win anything of note first, shall we?
It is a weak argument to say 'let's see him win something'.... He has won everything he can with the teams he has managed and consistently overachieved. You can't win things with some teams however good you are! Your mentality means we would only consider a very tiny pool of managers (most of whom are past it - see our recent history).
To be fair, @Botim was responding to a poster suggesting what Rodgers has achieved goes beyond Guardiola's work; they weren't talking about hiring criteria for United.
It is pointless directly comparing Rodgers and Guardiola on all levels. I don't really need to expand on this.
I don't disagree; it's just that it wasn't in relation to United for once.
Posted this last season. Different year but this is still the same.
He didn’t bottle it he took a tactical gamble and lost tonight. The club feel Ricardo and Castagne cannot start 2 games in a week at this stage of their comebacks, presumably Barnes was being rested due to the volume of games and Barnes was our only available attacking option off the bench.
I’d be angry if I couldn’t understand his decisions but I do so whilst I’m disappointed I can accept it
I’d be angry if I couldn’t understand his decisions but I do so whilst I’m disappointed I can accept it
All focus on the league.. top 4 should be in the bag unless the wheels come off.. which will be pretty impressive.
He may hope Maddison isn’t out for long because they look half the team without him.
I do not think he will be too bovered about it. I wish that they had gone through and the pressure of playing in the EL and the PL. Now they will concentrate on the PL alone.
It’s a very poor side to go out against regardless of the changes.
If it was a one off, you would just chalk it up to a poor performance and underestimating a team with a lower reputation, but his history in Europe is enough to cause concern I feel.
Especially for anyone who has been calling for him at United
If it was a one off, you would just chalk it up to a poor performance and underestimating a team with a lower reputation, but his history in Europe is enough to cause concern I feel.
Especially for anyone who has been calling for him at United
Tbh I wouldnt be bothered if we went out in this round. Id rather concentrate on the league and give the lads a day off but the plastics would make that unbearable.
His record in Europe is seriously appalling. Was not expecting him to go out at this stage considering how he won the group comfortably. Similar to Conte in Europe, he can never seem to go far in Europe. Even Ranieri did a better job than him. Europa League is still a very prestigious trophy so for those that says he wouldn't be bothered, I don't think he would be happy to crash out in Europe again.
Very bad look on Leicester going out like this
Anyone that says Leicester or Rodgers isnt bothered by going out is incorrect.
There's no way a team like Leicester or a coach like Rodgers would ever want to go out of a prestigious European tournament as early as this.
The last thing Leicester need is a wobble towards the end of the season after what happened last time round, this could be the beginning of that. The next game V Arsenal is crucial for them now, lose and they will be nervous.
There's no way a team like Leicester or a coach like Rodgers would ever want to go out of a prestigious European tournament as early as this.
The last thing Leicester need is a wobble towards the end of the season after what happened last time round, this could be the beginning of that. The next game V Arsenal is crucial for them now, lose and they will be nervous.
A result like that against Slavia is unforgivable, but it actually happens.
But as @Maluco and @Raredaredevil have said, this is not a one off for Rodgers. It's a problem for him and Leicester, because this was a winnable trophy for them (well, obviously not).
But as @Maluco and @Raredaredevil have said, this is not a one off for Rodgers. It's a problem for him and Leicester, because this was a winnable trophy for them (well, obviously not).
Because we have a manager while being second in the league? The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
If he gets top four this season, he and the players and fans won't care, surely
However if he doesn't get top4 from the position they are in, for a second season in a row, it's quite damning for him
However if he doesn't get top4 from the position they are in, for a second season in a row, it's quite damning for him
Oh i'd be inconsolable if that happened. Inconsolable i tell you.
If i supported a team that had never won any European trophies and only won 2-3 trophies of any description in the last 50 or so years i think i'd care about throwing away the opportunity to win one.
A very good manager still. He should make top four more easily this time around. He has been consistent at the top cadre and thereabouts of the premier league.
I wouldnt call it throwing away the opportunity. He didn't exactly play kids and sacrifice the game.
I think fa Cup is a better option for them as they are close to the semi finals (though they have us)
And it's one off games
Making the champions League by top4 is a better option for them too
I was surprised they went out but missing a few key players for a team like Leicester does make a difference
Brendan the bluffer