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Weird to go back to a manager you sacked a season and a half ago. I'm not even sure he would be that interested in going back with the state Tottenham are in.
I doubt that. The problem is Levy are his penny pinching ways, bringing Poch back won’t move the needle for Kane. Poch is likely Levy’s last ditch effort in convincing Kane to stay but he will leave anyways, and Poch will be given the reigns to rebuild the squad.
Originally I thought the same, but now think he’ll still want to go. Also think Levy/Poch would need the Kane sale money to help rebuild the squad.
I'm struggling to see how Kane leaves this summer to be honest.
Think Kane has his eyes on the all time PL top scorer. There's only one club which guarantees big trophies in England at the moment and while their spending is humongous, they have never spent the sums that would be needed to get Kane and most of their big purchases to date have been on younger players?
Covid has come at the wrong time for him imo.
Not much would be different with Pochettino. After failing to win anything with Spurs and a track record of tossing aside other cup competitions, he then failed to win the french league and got hammered by City in the CL. Both Ole and Poch have a track record of losing at this point, and its been about 4 years since Pochettino really "exceeded" expectations in any way in a single season. Since 16/17, he hasn't really done anything impressive. So I don't see anything with him that would lead us to believe he'd give us something different.Back on the market apparently. Id still take him over Ole if I had the chance. Sadly it won't happen though.
Believe me I am under no illusion Kane wants to go, I just don't see why Poch would come without Kane staying at least for a season till het gets time to sort the squad. I am not saying that Poch will convince Kane to stay I am more saying the only way Poch will come back is if Kane stays...., that makes sense right?
Not much would be different with Pochettino. After failing to win anything with Spurs and a track record of tossing aside other cup competitions, he then failed to win the french league and got hammered by City in the CL. Both Ole and Poch have a track record of losing at this point, and its been about 4 years since Pochettino really "exceeded" expectations in any way in a single season. Since 16/17, he hasn't really done anything impressive. So I don't see anything with him that would lead us to believe he'd give us something different.
Yup. It's one thing getting him at the start of a rebuilding process. Ole was a good appointment at the time and has done a decent job, he stabilized us and brought us to the point where we are "close". We don't need more transitioning though. We need those final few signings and then continual refreshing to maintain a top squad, but we also need the management team capable of coaching a side to get over the line. Close isn't good enough anymore.This has been my basic contention all along. Good coach but not a great coach. Not sure what we'd get from starting the process of rebuilding from scratch under someone who's never built a winning team. If we're just getting rid of Ole to get in someone who also finishes in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd loser spot, but plays marginally better football, I don't think its worth it.
Its one thing if you're talking about a Guardiola or Klopp level coach but Poch aint that.
He literally got to a Champions League final with Tottenham fecking Hotspur, after signing nobody that season. Harry Winks & Moussa Sissoko were his starting midfielders for crying out loud.Not much would be different with Pochettino. After failing to win anything with Spurs and a track record of tossing aside other cup competitions, he then failed to win the french league and got hammered by City in the CL. Both Ole and Poch have a track record of losing at this point, and its been about 4 years since Pochettino really "exceeded" expectations in any way in a single season. Since 16/17, he hasn't really done anything impressive. So I don't see anything with him that would lead us to believe he'd give us something different.
I'm still of the opinion Poch did well considering he had little to work with at Spurs. I like his style of football that would suit United. The thing is there's not much out there that's available at the moment but I'd even consider Brendon Rogers too.Not much would be different with Pochettino. After failing to win anything with Spurs and a track record of tossing aside other cup competitions, he then failed to win the french league and got hammered by City in the CL. Both Ole and Poch have a track record of losing at this point, and its been about 4 years since Pochettino really "exceeded" expectations in any way in a single season. Since 16/17, he hasn't really done anything impressive. So I don't see anything with him that would lead us to believe he'd give us something different.
Get what you’re saying but I just don’t see it happening, he’s set his stall out now and he wants trophies. Of course if there are no takers then that’s a different matter...Believe me I am under no illusion Kane wants to go, I just don't see why Poch would come without Kane staying at least for a season till het gets time to sort the squad. I am not saying that Poch will convince Kane to stay I am more saying the only way Poch will come back is if Kane stays...., that makes sense right?
No way Poch goes back to Spurs without being given assurances he'll be given money to spend. Could be a good summer coming up for Spurs
You’re back! Poch news/a bad night for Ole will always bring you home. Welcome back Poch!He Shouldn’t come back to Spurs. Even though he has an amazing record there, Spurs are not a big club. He won’t be managing top players there. However, if levy promises Poch that he will spend like the big club, then it is an opportunity that would be hard to refuse. It would be funny though that we miss out on poch again if the opportunity raises. It will be like we haven’t learned any lesson since ferguson retired.
Same said about Mourinho and they still didn't spend shit, just got players on loans and stuff. Levy aren't spending.
If I was in your shoes I’d want to believe it too! Obviously losing Kane is a massive blow, but don’t you think with the funds raised, the club could address multiple holes in the squad? There are good players that could be bought with a boost in your budget of £120 million.
True. Except for the fact that over £100m was spent (net) in Mourinho's 18 months.
Almost all of it during the pandemic. With no major income.
Great idea to give Mourinho a transfer budget. That worked out well didn’t it.True. Except for the fact that over £100m was spent (net) in Mourinho's 18 months.
Almost all of it during the pandemic. With no major income.
Di Matteo won the CL... Spurs fluked the CL run that year, they were shite in the league that year and didn't lay a glove on Liverpool in the final. He's a good transition manager like Ole has proved. He's not the last step manager.He literally got to a Champions League final with Tottenham fecking Hotspur, after signing nobody that season. Harry Winks & Moussa Sissoko were his starting midfielders for crying out loud.
There's just absolutely no reason for Poch to go one step back to Spurs after you have already taken step forward and managed a big club.
It screams lack of ambition and just wanting a safe job he knows he will be loved there regardless.
I will never respect him again if he takes suhh step.
Wait, is this source good?
As if I needed another reason to hate PSG. Imagine being so toxic that a seemingly nice guy like Pochettino escapes after just 6 months. And not only that: to the current Spurs circus!![]()
Let's say Zidane or Conte would consider the job and PSG would be willing to sack Poch after half a season already to get one of them - I personally wouldn't doubt that one sec. What would you do if you were Pochettino? It's not like other elite clubs are going to sack their managers to get Poch on board.
Poch didn't set the world on fire in those 5 months and the nearer the World Cup comes the more willing the Qataris will be to do everything possible to get into the limelight just before. Be it by signing Messi (doubt it) or be it to sign Zizou and Ramos (or whoever) to actually keep their spoilt AAA players in check and finally make some relevant news in the sports world.
There's just absolutely no reason for Poch to go one step back to Spurs after you have already taken step forward and managed a big club.
It screams lack of ambition and just wanting a safe job he knows he will be loved there regardless.
I will never respect him again if he takes such step.
Let's say Zidane or Conte would consider the job and PSG would be willing to sack Poch after half a season already to get one of them - I personally wouldn't doubt that one sec. What would you do if you were Pochettino? It's not like other elite clubs are going to sack their managers to get Poch on board.
Poch didn't set the world on fire in those 5 months and the nearer the World Cup comes the more willing the Qataris will be to do everything possible to get into the limelight just before. Be it by signing Messi (doubt it) or be it to sign Zizou and Ramos (or whoever) to actually keep their spoilt AAA players in check and finally make some relevant news in the sports world.
Lo Celso, Reguilon, Doherty, Hojbjerg, Rodon, Vinicius and Bale (wages for his loan) but they didn't spend under Mourinho?Same said about Mourinho and they still didn't spend shit, just got players on loans and stuff. Levy aren't spending.
Lo Celso, Reguilon, Doherty, Hojbjerg, Rodon, Vinicius and Bale (wages for his loan) but they didn't spend under Mourinho?
It came to around £100m of spending, which isn't bad, it was just spent on second tier players, the summer before they spent £60m on Ndombele. Maybe he misses the club, culture of London etc, who knows but it would be a stupid move for him.Pretty much most of these cost nothing more than 30m and are all 2nd tier players bar Bale whom Madrid are wanting to get rid because he was past it. Vinicius was also on loan. Are you telling me this is the spending force Poch are returning to Spurs for? To sign the likes of Doherty and Hojbjerg after he managed Neymar and Mbappe? It's a stupid move.
It came to around £100m of spending, which isn't bad, it was just spent on second tier players, the summer before they spent £60m on Ndombele. Maybe he misses the club, culture of London etc, who knows but it would be a stupid move for him.
I will take a break and wait for a better job than Tottenham fecking Hotspurs. There's no ambition in returning to Spurs after you have already moved on from them to a bigger club.
I will take a break and wait for a better job than Tottenham fecking Hotspurs. There's no ambition in returning to Spurs after you have already moved on from them to a bigger club.
Poch's contract is only up until next Summer.