Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”

I think that my first reaction to Pogba signing for Liverpool was one of indifference says a lot about my feelings on the player.

Obviously just standard Raiola nonsense though, no way he fits Klopp's criteria or that Liverpool would pay his wages.

If it's true about PSG no longer seeing the transfer as viable, there's no chance he's leaving this summer.
Yup, Pogba is too lazy to play into Klopp high intensity system.
 
Yup, Pogba is too lazy to play into Klopp high intensity system.

He's not lazy. Stop posting bullshit.

He just needs 9 players around him to do the running for him and he'll shine, you just wait. You don't have the mental capacity to appreciate his greatness.
 
All good points, and your perception is your own and therefore legitimate. I don't see an agenda from you, in other words; you seem thoughtful and measured. I also agree that most opinions are just that: opinions. In Pogba's case, however, it's become an agenda. Or rather, it began as an agenda by a few of our detractors and rivals and was then, over time, thoughtlessly adopted by so many more that it became an unexamined narrative, a kind of orthodoxy.

But also, here's the thing: I genuinely don't see the on-field issue(s) with Pogba. He might get caught dwelling on the ball a few times a season (who doesn't?), he might have a few defensive lapses, but overall, I love to watch him play, his grace and his movement, his athleticism, his technical brilliance, his defence-splitting passes, his work with the ball in tight spaces, all of it. For me, you don't discard a player of his kind of generational talent because you can't fit him into the system; you tweak the system to fit him in, find the players who will bring out the best of him.

You might think this simplistic, but he is literally the type of player I watch football for, so when a player like that plays for United, I'm doubly invested in him staying. I know this part isn't your angle, and I respect that, but I don't believe the media narrative at all. If he was as toxic as they say, his teammates wouldn't be so openly supportive of him. Within the game, he seems universally loved. I honestly do think we've been duped by a kind of snowballing narrative begun by our rivals and by hostile pundits with Liverpool ties, all of whom were terrified of our return to prominence when Pogba came back to us. The high cost of the transfer only gave them more grist for their mill, ammunition with which to ridicule and therefore undermine us and him. Over time, countless new voices have been added via media punditry and social media, but for me, the vast majority of those voices are simply repeating and amplifying a false narrative. It's been actually painful for me to see it all play out. We've been played. And Pogba if he goes will be going partly because we fans didn't rally around in sufficient numbers. Note: partly. It'll be one element of a complex situation, but any player will be affected by a sense that a significant number of his own club's fans are okay with seeing him go. I guess what I'm saying is I wish more of us had said from the start that we're not okay with seeing him go.

Great post.
 
It seems that Pogba has decided to leave next year on a free. In that case I hope that we add a quality CM and we send Pogba away even on loan. Let the circus surrounding his transfer go elsewhere
 
All good points, and your perception is your own and therefore legitimate. I don't see an agenda from you, in other words; you seem thoughtful and measured. I also agree that most opinions are just that: opinions. In Pogba's case, however, it's become an agenda. Or rather, it began as an agenda by a few of our detractors and rivals and was then, over time, thoughtlessly adopted by so many more that it became an unexamined narrative, a kind of orthodoxy.

But also, here's the thing: I genuinely don't see the on-field issue(s) with Pogba. He might get caught dwelling on the ball a few times a season (who doesn't?), he might have a few defensive lapses, but overall, I love to watch him play, his grace and his movement, his athleticism, his technical brilliance, his defence-splitting passes, his work with the ball in tight spaces, all of it. For me, you don't discard a player of his kind of generational talent because you can't fit him into the system; you tweak the system to fit him in, find the players who will bring out the best of him.

You might think this simplistic, but he is literally the type of player I watch football for, so when a player like that plays for United, I'm doubly invested in him staying. I know this part isn't your angle, and I respect that, but I don't believe the media narrative at all. If he was as toxic as they say, his teammates wouldn't be so openly supportive of him. Within the game, he seems universally loved. I honestly do think we've been duped by a kind of snowballing narrative begun by our rivals and by hostile pundits with Liverpool ties, all of whom were terrified of our return to prominence when Pogba came back to us. The high cost of the transfer only gave them more grist for their mill, ammunition with which to ridicule and therefore undermine us and him. Over time, countless new voices have been added via media punditry and social media, but for me, the vast majority of those voices are simply repeating and amplifying a false narrative. It's been actually painful for me to see it all play out. We've been played. And Pogba if he goes will be going partly because we fans didn't rally around in sufficient numbers. Note: partly. It'll be one element of a complex situation, but any player will be affected by a sense that a significant number of his own club's fans are okay with seeing him go. I guess what I'm saying is I wish more of us had said from the start that we're not okay with seeing him go.
Excellent post. Spot on.
 
With Rashfords injury and probable absence the first few months Im guessing Pogba will get alot of gametime on the left now.

Might be a sweetener for him to see that he can produce good numbers from there and make it his own . I dont think he really wants to be in the double pivot for us (and rightfully so).
 
Just how much longer are United going to humiliate themselves by prostrating in front of Pogba and his agent? SAF would be crying into his haggis with what he's seeing right now. His agent obviously acts with the Pogba's tacit approval and the disdain with which they have treated the club would not be tolerated anywhere else. Openly flirting with City, now Liverpool ... why are United even offering him a contract? He should be told that he is not being counted on this season and he will be 3rd choice behind Bruno/de Beek if he doesn't find a club.
Agreed.

We have no one to blame but ourselves in the first place. We let them toying with and humiliating us all the way simply because we have no ball. If this happens at Liverpool the entire caf would laugh their tits off for years.

Back in the SAF days even if he makes a similar mistake no way he'd let those cnuts treat us the way it's been. He'd simply tell them to shut the feck off or rot on the bench ages ago. Then kick them out of the door first chance he got. No player is bigger than the club, regardless of how talented or important that player is. Let alone someone who is inconsistent and hardly deliver accordingly to his price tag like Pogba.
 
All good points, and your perception is your own and therefore legitimate. I don't see an agenda from you, in other words; you seem thoughtful and measured. I also agree that most opinions are just that: opinions. In Pogba's case, however, it's become an agenda. Or rather, it began as an agenda by a few of our detractors and rivals and was then, over time, thoughtlessly adopted by so many more that it became an unexamined narrative, a kind of orthodoxy.

But also, here's the thing: I genuinely don't see the on-field issue(s) with Pogba. He might get caught dwelling on the ball a few times a season (who doesn't?), he might have a few defensive lapses, but overall, I love to watch him play, his grace and his movement, his athleticism, his technical brilliance, his defence-splitting passes, his work with the ball in tight spaces, all of it. For me, you don't discard a player of his kind of generational talent because you can't fit him into the system; you tweak the system to fit him in, find the players who will bring out the best of him.

You might think this simplistic, but he is literally the type of player I watch football for, so when a player like that plays for United, I'm doubly invested in him staying. I know this part isn't your angle, and I respect that, but I don't believe the media narrative at all. If he was as toxic as they say, his teammates wouldn't be so openly supportive of him. Within the game, he seems universally loved. I honestly do think we've been duped by a kind of snowballing narrative begun by our rivals and by hostile pundits with Liverpool ties, all of whom were terrified of our return to prominence when Pogba came back to us. The high cost of the transfer only gave them more grist for their mill, ammunition with which to ridicule and therefore undermine us and him. Over time, countless new voices have been added via media punditry and social media, but for me, the vast majority of those voices are simply repeating and amplifying a false narrative. It's been actually painful for me to see it all play out. We've been played. And Pogba if he goes will be going partly because we fans didn't rally around in sufficient numbers. Note: partly. It'll be one element of a complex situation, but any player will be affected by a sense that a significant number of his own club's fans are okay with seeing him go. I guess what I'm saying is I wish more of us had said from the start that we're not okay with seeing him go.
This should appear in a tutorial "how to post a valid and unbiased opinion on a forum".

I agree with all the points, the media circus made our fans turn on him which is fecking sad.
I also think the expectation was too big for him. The 90 mil price tag made our fans believe that we're buying some Ronaldo/Messi-esque messiah of football and, let's be honest, even at Juventus he wasn't even close to performing as consistent as those two did in the last 15 years, even if the talent is/was there.

What gets on my nerves in regards to fans analyzing his performances is the usual "he sleeps on the ball, he gets caught a lot of times". Who doesn't? I wish fans would also see the amount of times he receives the ball, lifts his head, sees that none of our attackers are bothered to make a run and he just passes it sideways or tries to dribble.

Losing him would mean losing a high quality player, even if not a consistent one. Hell even Bruno is not consistent and went missing for about two months last season, for various reasons.
 
Just how much longer are United going to humiliate themselves by prostrating in front of Pogba and his agent? SAF would be crying into his haggis with what he's seeing right now. His agent obviously acts with the Pogba's tacit approval and the disdain with which they have treated the club would not be tolerated anywhere else. Openly flirting with City, now Liverpool ... why are United even offering him a contract? He should be told that he is not being counted on this season and he will be 3rd choice behind Bruno/de Beek if he doesn't find a club.

Rooney in 2010, Rio in 2005, Keane in 2001(?). All given big contracts after flirting away. Rooney publicly handed in a request and flirted with City ffs.

Fergie was pragmatic. He only turfed out players when they were declining.
 
All good points, and your perception is your own and therefore legitimate. I don't see an agenda from you, in other words; you seem thoughtful and measured. I also agree that most opinions are just that: opinions. In Pogba's case, however, it's become an agenda. Or rather, it began as an agenda by a few of our detractors and rivals and was then, over time, thoughtlessly adopted by so many more that it became an unexamined narrative, a kind of orthodoxy.

But also, here's the thing: I genuinely don't see the on-field issue(s) with Pogba. He might get caught dwelling on the ball a few times a season (who doesn't?), he might have a few defensive lapses, but overall, I love to watch him play, his grace and his movement, his athleticism, his technical brilliance, his defence-splitting passes, his work with the ball in tight spaces, all of it. For me, you don't discard a player of his kind of generational talent because you can't fit him into the system; you tweak the system to fit him in, find the players who will bring out the best of him.

You might think this simplistic, but he is literally the type of player I watch football for, so when a player like that plays for United, I'm doubly invested in him staying. I know this part isn't your angle, and I respect that, but I don't believe the media narrative at all. If he was as toxic as they say, his teammates wouldn't be so openly supportive of him. Within the game, he seems universally loved. I honestly do think we've been duped by a kind of snowballing narrative begun by our rivals and by hostile pundits with Liverpool ties, all of whom were terrified of our return to prominence when Pogba came back to us. The high cost of the transfer only gave them more grist for their mill, ammunition with which to ridicule and therefore undermine us and him. Over time, countless new voices have been added via media punditry and social media, but for me, the vast majority of those voices are simply repeating and amplifying a false narrative. It's been actually painful for me to see it all play out. We've been played. And Pogba if he goes will be going partly because we fans didn't rally around in sufficient numbers. Note: partly. It'll be one element of a complex situation, but any player will be affected by a sense that a significant number of his own club's fans are okay with seeing him go. I guess what I'm saying is I wish more of us had said from the start that we're not okay with seeing him go.
Welcome to the internet, where if something gets repeated often enough it slowly starts to become fact, even obvious fake news.
 
Its Liverpool Echo. Doubt Riola has even heard about them

The liverpool echo is merely quoting reports that originate in the French media and it sounds very Raiola - he has form for it.
 
All good points, and your perception is your own and therefore legitimate. I don't see an agenda from you, in other words; you seem thoughtful and measured. I also agree that most opinions are just that: opinions. In Pogba's case, however, it's become an agenda. Or rather, it began as an agenda by a few of our detractors and rivals and was then, over time, thoughtlessly adopted by so many more that it became an unexamined narrative, a kind of orthodoxy.

But also, here's the thing: I genuinely don't see the on-field issue(s) with Pogba. He might get caught dwelling on the ball a few times a season (who doesn't?), he might have a few defensive lapses, but overall, I love to watch him play, his grace and his movement, his athleticism, his technical brilliance, his defence-splitting passes, his work with the ball in tight spaces, all of it. For me, you don't discard a player of his kind of generational talent because you can't fit him into the system; you tweak the system to fit him in, find the players who will bring out the best of him.

You might think this simplistic, but he is literally the type of player I watch football for, so when a player like that plays for United, I'm doubly invested in him staying. I know this part isn't your angle, and I respect that, but I don't believe the media narrative at all. If he was as toxic as they say, his teammates wouldn't be so openly supportive of him. Within the game, he seems universally loved. I honestly do think we've been duped by a kind of snowballing narrative begun by our rivals and by hostile pundits with Liverpool ties, all of whom were terrified of our return to prominence when Pogba came back to us. The high cost of the transfer only gave them more grist for their mill, ammunition with which to ridicule and therefore undermine us and him. Over time, countless new voices have been added via media punditry and social media, but for me, the vast majority of those voices are simply repeating and amplifying a false narrative. It's been actually painful for me to see it all play out. We've been played. And Pogba if he goes will be going partly because we fans didn't rally around in sufficient numbers. Note: partly. It'll be one element of a complex situation, but any player will be affected by a sense that a significant number of his own club's fans are okay with seeing him go. I guess what I'm saying is I wish more of us had said from the start that we're not okay with seeing him go.

I like a lot of what you said here. Pogba does play better in a certain system and great teams would build more towards this. That all said one thing you leave out here is Raiola. He has helped fuel this negative narrative and made things messy. The part of me that does not take well to Pogba is all tied here, by the player's own choice, to associate with this guy who does NOTHING to help team's achieve greatness.
 
I cannot see realistically how we can play with Pogba, Bruno, Sancho, Cavanni and Rashford in the team - even then Greenwood is on the bench.
We need to play 2 DMs if you have 5 attackers. Didnt the EL final show us that we are unbalanced with Pog and Bruno together? I watched every game last season and you just cannot play them both together. 1DM and Pogba doesnt work at all. Bruno is undroppable I think due to his work rate and output. Pogba not so undroppable - luxury player only great in a team that works it bollocks off and allows him to prance around. He's a liability in midfield gets caught in possesion far too ofter. We have fallen in love with his 50yd pings and have lost sight of what he's there for - win the ball, work and create. Theres no I in team but there is a U in cnut!
Get rid please.
 
He is going to be given a 450k pw contract isnt he? Every summer his agent and his random family members going to slate the club while this club legend keeping mum huh. Meanwhile in 5 years time giggs replacement manager still wondering where his best position would be.
 
I don't want the club to increase his wages. He's just not worth it.
 
I think PSG might offer £35-40 mill and we would be better losing face and taking it. What would be the point of saying no and having him stink up the place for a season then leave on a free?
We would have lost around £50 mill over the 5 years. We would also save his £290k a week wages. This would at least go towards a Neves type signing, or half the Rice price.
At least it would end this mad circus Pogba has created.
 
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Just how much longer are United going to humiliate themselves by prostrating in front of Pogba and his agent? SAF would be crying into his haggis with what he's seeing right now. His agent obviously acts with the Pogba's tacit approval and the disdain with which they have treated the club would not be tolerated anywhere else. Openly flirting with City, now Liverpool ... why are United even offering him a contract? He should be told that he is not being counted on this season and he will be 3rd choice behind Bruno/de Beek if he doesn't find a club.
It's very odd. It's almost as if United see Riaola as an entity in himself rather that Pogba's representative, which is a bit strange really. I mean, by all accounts Pogba seems like a good chap who had a positive effect on everybody around him, but his agent is acting in his interest and I agree that the club should take a harsher and stronger stance on this one. Pogba should reign in the dumb feck of an agent he has and want to be part of the club's future rather little old us being hopeful of him staying this summer.

For me either he signs up on the same salary, is sold this summer or spends a year in the stands. We cannot have him leave on a free getting playing time in our team. feck that..
 
Him and his agent are acting like they're bigger than the club. And they're doing it cause they can.
This circus needs to be solved. If he gets even bigger wages it opens up a can of worms. I mean it's obvious his hart isnt in it and hasnt been for a while. Just let him go. Of course there's a question of who'll buy him and for what money. Clustefuk of a situation. But giving him a pay rise is a bigger risk then letting him go imo.
 
Agreed. He's going to leave on a free transfer to madrid next summer as thats where he really wants to go. Madrid will sign Mbappe by next summer and it wouldnt suprise me if Mbappe asked for Pogba to be signed as a condition of his transfer. They have a good relationship on the pitch for France.

Speaking of Mbappe at least he had the decency to be honest with PSG and tell them he wasn't going to sign a new deal and that the club should sell him this summer so they get some money for him. Pogba wouldn't do that.

Every summer its the same circus with Pogba. Like others have posted on here, he should be given an ultimatum. Sign by date x or your getting sold. Refuse to go and you can rot in the reserves. But Ole and Utd are too weak to do that.
That's exactly how it should be. In general we don't sell players easily choosing to protect their value or whatever that means
 
Hardly ransom to be fair, didn't Rooney do something similar until the squad was strengthened?

Is that what he's doing? We can't say for sure one way or another because we don't know all the facts. The only thing we know is that his agent has been actively searching for a new club and that Pogba himself has refused to sign a new contract.

I'd like to believe he's "pulling a Rooney" because he wants to challenge for the biggest trophies. He could just be angling for an improved contract. Or he could simply want out of the club. Who knows?

Either way, the fanbase will get right behind him if he proves he's committed to the club by signing a new contract. Otherwise, he's in for a rough year.
 
This should appear in a tutorial "how to post a valid and unbiased opinion on a forum".

I agree with all the points, the media circus made our fans turn on him which is fecking sad.
It's a bit disrespectful for you to insinuate that our fans only turn on him because of some media circus. A lot of us are capable of making our own opinion about a player's input and attitude without needing the media to narrate a story.
 
All good points, and your perception is your own and therefore legitimate. I don't see an agenda from you, in other words; you seem thoughtful and measured. I also agree that most opinions are just that: opinions. In Pogba's case, however, it's become an agenda. Or rather, it began as an agenda by a few of our detractors and rivals and was then, over time, thoughtlessly adopted by so many more that it became an unexamined narrative, a kind of orthodoxy.

But also, here's the thing: I genuinely don't see the on-field issue(s) with Pogba. He might get caught dwelling on the ball a few times a season (who doesn't?), he might have a few defensive lapses, but overall, I love to watch him play, his grace and his movement, his athleticism, his technical brilliance, his defence-splitting passes, his work with the ball in tight spaces, all of it. For me, you don't discard a player of his kind of generational talent because you can't fit him into the system; you tweak the system to fit him in, find the players who will bring out the best of him.

You might think this simplistic, but he is literally the type of player I watch football for, so when a player like that plays for United, I'm doubly invested in him staying. I know this part isn't your angle, and I respect that, but I don't believe the media narrative at all. If he was as toxic as they say, his teammates wouldn't be so openly supportive of him. Within the game, he seems universally loved. I honestly do think we've been duped by a kind of snowballing narrative begun by our rivals and by hostile pundits with Liverpool ties, all of whom were terrified of our return to prominence when Pogba came back to us. The high cost of the transfer only gave them more grist for their mill, ammunition with which to ridicule and therefore undermine us and him. Over time, countless new voices have been added via media punditry and social media, but for me, the vast majority of those voices are simply repeating and amplifying a false narrative. It's been actually painful for me to see it all play out. We've been played. And Pogba if he goes will be going partly because we fans didn't rally around in sufficient numbers. Note: partly. It'll be one element of a complex situation, but any player will be affected by a sense that a significant number of his own club's fans are okay with seeing him go. I guess what I'm saying is I wish more of us had said from the start that we're not okay with seeing him go.
Good post.
 
It's a bit disrespectful for you to insinuate that our fans only turn on him because of some media circus. A lot of us are capable of making our own opinion about a player's input and attitude without needing the media to narrate a story.
This. Plus he doesnt say anything about Raiola's constant ramblings and offerings of his client to other clubs which started pretty early in his United career.
 
His defenders in this thread should be ashamed of themselves. Accusing posters they don't even know of having an agenda because they dare to question his commitment to the club. Laughable.
 
Can anyone imagine Jogba doing the gegenpress?

I'll always remember that game against Liverpool last season where he tracked Alexander-Arnold for 15 minutes before giving up.

His defenders in this thread should be ashamed of themselves. Accusing posters they don't even know of having an agenda because they dare to question his commitment to the club. Laughable.

It's a sign of their lack of ability to debate, there's a high correlation I've noticed between being a Pogba fan and using emotes as a form of argument.
 
It's a bit disrespectful for you to insinuate that our fans only turn on him because of some media circus. A lot of us are capable of making our own opinion about a player's input and attitude without needing the media to narrate a story.

It's the caf any opinion someone disagrees with is always an agenda. You know there's little to back up peoples arguments when they result to that.

Pogba has not shown this club any respect over the last few years and if he walks away costing us a transfer fee he'll be very much a villain. The fact he has some nice highlights every now and again doesn't change that.
 
I usually find those nicknames for footballers and clubs quite childish and embarrassing but I gotta say, 'Jogba' got a laugh out of me
 
If a player doesn't want to be here, then let him go. Real will take him for FREE next year anyway. We should be prepared for this and have somebody ready to take his place, or change pattern/style to suit our play without him.
 
All good points, and your perception is your own and therefore legitimate. I don't see an agenda from you, in other words; you seem thoughtful and measured. I also agree that most opinions are just that: opinions. In Pogba's case, however, it's become an agenda. Or rather, it began as an agenda by a few of our detractors and rivals and was then, over time, thoughtlessly adopted by so many more that it became an unexamined narrative, a kind of orthodoxy.

But also, here's the thing: I genuinely don't see the on-field issue(s) with Pogba. He might get caught dwelling on the ball a few times a season (who doesn't?), he might have a few defensive lapses, but overall, I love to watch him play, his grace and his movement, his athleticism, his technical brilliance, his defence-splitting passes, his work with the ball in tight spaces, all of it. For me, you don't discard a player of his kind of generational talent because you can't fit him into the system; you tweak the system to fit him in, find the players who will bring out the best of him.

You might think this simplistic, but he is literally the type of player I watch football for, so when a player like that plays for United, I'm doubly invested in him staying. I know this part isn't your angle, and I respect that, but I don't believe the media narrative at all. If he was as toxic as they say, his teammates wouldn't be so openly supportive of him. Within the game, he seems universally loved. I honestly do think we've been duped by a kind of snowballing narrative begun by our rivals and by hostile pundits with Liverpool ties, all of whom were terrified of our return to prominence when Pogba came back to us. The high cost of the transfer only gave them more grist for their mill, ammunition with which to ridicule and therefore undermine us and him. Over time, countless new voices have been added via media punditry and social media, but for me, the vast majority of those voices are simply repeating and amplifying a false narrative. It's been actually painful for me to see it all play out. We've been played. And Pogba if he goes will be going partly because we fans didn't rally around in sufficient numbers. Note: partly. It'll be one element of a complex situation, but any player will be affected by a sense that a significant number of his own club's fans are okay with seeing him go. I guess what I'm saying is I wish more of us had said from the start that we're not okay with seeing him go.
Fantastic post.

This narrative has been happening to a number of our players in particular to Lingard, Shaw, Martial and now it seems Rashford and even Greenwood at his tender age getting overly criticised by our own fans forums. Those pointing fingers at Pogba for what's said and done by Raiola he's been given the mandate to get him the best deal. He's not there to be liked by us fans or the club.
 
His defenders in this thread should be ashamed of themselves. Accusing posters they don't even know of having an agenda because they dare to question his commitment to the club. Laughable.

Not all of them. But yeah some of them really need to feck off with him when he leaves tbh. Embarrassing.
 
If true that he was open to going to City and now Liverpool why are the club even bothering to offer a new contract to an inconsistent performing player, who is only here for the money anyway? The club should be bigger than this, swallow their pride and sell him or failing a buyer let him go at the end of the season. We should only want players who are happy with the salary they have, want to perform and be here, not keep seeking a way out or a mega higher salary all the while.
 
But also, here's the thing: I genuinely don't see the on-field issue(s) with Pogba. He might get caught dwelling on the ball a few times a season (who doesn't?), he might have a few defensive lapses, but overall, I love to watch him play, his grace and his movement, his athleticism, his technical brilliance, his defence-splitting passes, his work with the ball in tight spaces, all of it. For me, you don't discard a player of his kind of generational talent because you can't fit him into the system; you tweak the system to fit him in, find the players who will bring out the best of him.

I agree that there is an agenda against him. First, he left, then he came back and "cost us" a giant fee, people are expecting ballon d'or type performances for 100 million, his agent is a cnut and that reflects poorly on him. All these things piss a lot of people off, but that doesn't change the fact that he:
  • Loses possession stupidly too often in CM
  • Is defensively shaky in CM
  • Is not productive enough in a more forward role
Which other top midfielder in the world has all 3 of these flaws?

Ole rightfully doesn't trust him in CM against proper teams. His best use for us would be against a parked bus and from the bench in all other games. He's not gonna accept that, he's not gonna take wages that reflect that and his agent will put up a massive stink.

For the star role that he wants to have, he just doesn't fit the EPL. He'll tear up L1 where he gets to play against 2 parked buses every game.

If you love to see him play, watch a youtube comp or watch him at his next club, if you want to win things then you acknowledge that he's a flawed player and move on.

For anyone that wants to keep Pogba at all costs, I have 2 questions:
  1. Are you looking forward to next season with Pogba LW, Rashford RW and Sancho + Greenwood on the bench in big games?
  2. Do you expect Ole to suddenly trust Pogba in midfield against pressing teams?
 
Fantastic post.

This narrative has been happening to a number of our players in particular to Lingard, Shaw, Martial and now it seems Rashford and even Greenwood at his tender age getting overly criticised by our own fans forums. Those pointing fingers at Pogba for what's said and done by Raiola he's been given the mandate to get him the best deal. He's not there to be liked by us fans or the club.
Raiola acts as a spokesperson for the player, and if he's given Raiola free reign to get him the best deal at whatever cost, including chronic disrespect to his employer, then that's a huge problem. And it's a problem that's not exactly the norm among top players.