Verstappen got so lucky there at the end
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hahaha of course he deserves it.
held off the king of the wet no problem. pulled a second on him!
just because luck went against him doesn’t take away what he did for 95% of the race. i
Honestly I don't see it like that at all. Mercedes guys said they knew it was going to get heavier. Surely that should be information McLaren should have had as well and should have insisted Lando come in. But him telling them to shut up is what cost him, rather than listening to them.
Congratulations to Lewis on making history!
People seriously trying to put the blame on Lando? 
McLaren are at fault - they left it up to him. Mercedes told Lewis he was coming in. If they'd left it up to Lewis he'd have stayed out as well and met the same fate, 100%.
McLaren are at fault - they left it up to him. Mercedes told Lewis he was coming in. If they'd left it up to Lewis he'd have stayed out as well and met the same fate, 100%.
What an incredible race. I agree with others that Max is favorite. He's got the better car, making fewer mistakes, and taking advantage whenever an opportunity arises.
Is it for certain that Lewis will require an engine penalty also?
Is it for certain that Lewis will require an engine penalty also?
blame the team then?
they predicted it would get heavier but that’s never 100%
maybe mclaren didn’t think it would get heavier and thought he’d be ok to keep managing?
it’s a split second decision with an impossible to predict scenario. yes in hindsight the decision is obvious, but at the same time when you’re the lead car it’s never that easy to decide that.
hamilton knew he couldn’t beat norris on pace today so took the safe option and it paid off.
Feel for bad for Lando but he will learn from this, he's only young. Drove a great race and hope he doesn't dwell too much on this.
Lewis was against pitting also but his team insisted and he listened to them. Many times we see Lewis not so sure with his pit crew strategy but he listen to them more often than not.
Taking risk is fine but this one just not worth the gamble.
Hope the title goes down to the last race, too often recently the last races have just meant nothing as the title was already sealed
He did, but that's the kinda luck that wins you world titles, 2nd today makes him the heavy favourite.
Londo was slipping around, Lewis handled the rain better. Lando ignored his team, Lewis did not.
95 % yeah I agree, but luck did not go against him, his inexperience did him.
If you don't believe Lewis is good in the wet you need to give your head a wobble. Best driver in wet easily, maybe Lewis had a championship in mind when the rain came down and Lando (who was unlucky not to win) had nothing to lose but a race win.
I also think Lando had a no win situation after Lewis pitted he gambled for the win, when he should have accepted a mistake and accepted 2nd place.
the difference is they reinforced the rain would get heavier. when you’re 2nd and can’t overtake the guy ahead it’s much easier to take the safe option. if it was the other way around there’s no way he would pit first, i promise you that.
People seriously trying to put the blame on Lando?
McLaren are at fault - they left it up to him. Mercedes told Lewis he was coming in. If they'd left it up to Lewis he'd have stayed out as well and met the same fate, 100%.
So easy for Mercedes to make the decision to pit when worst case is you are still 2nd, and best is win.
Difficult to say much more other than Lando absolutely deserved the win after the whole weekend, compared to Lewis who managed to qualify poorly, start the race poorly, then able to gain positions through other teams poor pitstops. Bit reductive I know but hard not to be annoyed that we have yet another year of a Mercedes Russia win from what basically came down to a a good rain call by the team.
lewis handled it better?! you absolute fanboy
he got dropped by a guy with no race wins in a worse car 
I thought Hamilton was a rain master?!People seriously trying to put the blame on Lando?
McLaren are at fault - they left it up to him. Mercedes told Lewis he was coming in. If they'd left it up to Lewis he'd have stayed out as well and met the same fate, 100%.
Exactly that.
Good to hear the praise Hamilton gave Lando Norris.
True class.
And massive congratulations to Lewis Hamilton for getting to the incredible milestone of 100 F1 GP wins.
100th win for Lewis. I only tuned in for the last few laps. What an insane finish.
Poor Lando.. gutted for him
Crucially Max P2 from nowhere, get in! Also Ferrari podium. Get in Carlos!
Poor Lando.. gutted for him
Crucially Max P2 from nowhere, get in! Also Ferrari podium. Get in Carlos!
They could have been more firm with him as it was light rain when he told them to shut up to be fair, they could have told him worse was to come but it was a tough call, by the time Hamilton finished the rain had stopped
lewis handled it better?! you absolute fanboy
Lando was off the track 3 times trying to stay ahead before Hamilton went onto inters. Lando wasn't looking like he was going to stay on, whilst Hamilton was looking secure. In fact we know he wasn't going to stay on as he hadn't in the previous 2 laps.
It's experience, but Hamilton was doing a safe pace for the conditions whilst Norris was slipping around.
lewis handled it better?! you absolute fanboy
I agree with you that Norris deserves DOTD for his race before the rain, but this post is a car crash, Hamilton clearly did handle the rain better, whereas Norris had tunnel vision which cost him the win.
Fanboy WTF are you on about.lewis handled it better?! you absolute fanboy
But if it makes you feel better you carry on.
Fanboy comments are making this thread fecking unbearable can't give a comment with bring called one.
When they were both on slicks Norris was handling the rain better. The 1 second gap became 3 seconds became 4.
Mercedes handled their driver a lot better than McLaren and that was the difference.
Mercedes handled their driver a lot better than McLaren and that was the difference.
Great race. I'm disappointed that it rained as the fight for the lead was building up to be a tight one maybe even going to the flag. I think that even if Norris had come in the dynamic that had been building would have been changed by the conditions caused by the rain. .
Just what I said, but apparently Iam a Fanboy
no, what you said was hamilton handled it better when that clearly isn’t true. he took less risks and lost time on norris.Just what I said, but apparently Iam a Fanboy
if he was so much better in the rain why didn’t he pass him?
Out of the remaining tracks, does anyone know which ones will favour Mercedes and which ones Red Bull?
Mature interview by Norris there. Taking some of the blame, but he will learn from this. Nice to see Alonso come up to him as well. He's definitely driver of the day.
bingo.
mercedes gave their driver the right info, mclaren took a risk hoping it wouldn’t get worse and it didn’t pay off. if lando knew it would get heavier do you really think he’s staying out? not a chance.
people like to comment on this sport but the majority just don’t have a clue
Took less risks handled it better is there a differance
They could have been more firm with him as it was light rain when he told them to shut up to be fair, they could have told him worse was to come but it was a tough call, by the time Hamilton finished the rain had stopped
Quite agree with you. Both McLaren and Lando Norris will learn from this.
Yeah and you can't even blame McLaren too much for taking a gamble by leaving it up to Norris. They had a lot less to lose.
Mercedes are in the position where their driver and constructor rivals are way behind them on track. So playing it safe to secure the points is always going to be the right call and a very easy call.
The next 3 favour RB , Max should get a nice cushion in front.
there is literally no way to predict the rain will get heavier in 3 laps. on another day the rain stays light like it was, norris keeps going and wins at a canter.
if ham stayed out 1 more lap he’d be in the same situation and verstappen wins, then everybody laughs at mercedes.
it was an informed but mainly lucky decision based on him only ever going to end up 2nd.
Oh Jesus. People are using Lando going from a 1 second lead to a 2 second lead over the space of a few wet corners to diminish Hamilton’s ability in the rain.
Just when you think you’ve read it all.
Just when you think you’ve read it all.
Mexico and Brazil are usually good tracks for Red Bull.
Red Bull usually finish the season with wins, but how much has that been down to Mercedes and Hamilton already having the title win sewn up? Guess we'll find out.
Well there obviously is, we have tons of weather prediction technology available nowadays, this is a strange line of attack.
Everyone who benefitted from the rain was lucky, rather than just Hamilton. The ultimate beneficiary of the rain was Max, for whom the rain has probably sealed the title.
Christ this thread is awful. I'm out.