I hope PSG get trash by City and PSG decide to hire Zidane. Pot can join us ASAP, what the point to bein in a club for 1 year if there is someone who is giving you a 5 years contract. I really think he can develop young players.
Mauricio Amadaeus Pochettino | Chelsea sack watch
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He probably will come. Hope for the best. Hopefully I am wrong about him and he is able to coach the team and bring successful football. He'll certainly be given the time to do so. I want nothing more than United to be a source of hope and joy again. But I'm definitely skeptical. I think Spurs was his level, all the "great work" he did there culminated in finishing 2nd once and fluking his way to a CL final IMO. If he comes and we actually look a well coached team for one, I'll probably be happy enough considering the past 8 years. So the standards are pretty low.
No one saying that Ten Hag is a bad coach.
So were Spurs not fighting the same financial muscle yet got to the final?
I am trying to say that there isnt much in between the two, yet some fans seem to think Ten Hag is at a higher level than Poch. The poster was talking about Poch's career and hardly won anything but he improved every team he went into. Ten Hag is older than Poch and has less managerial experience, with all his experience coming in the dutch league.
Get your point, but not sure I agree. Bruno press relentlessly. Same with Fred if he can. Sancho used to press for Dortmund, and if that is an issue use Lingard while we can on RW. Hell, use Cavani as a wide attacker. Or Donny (who also is well accustomed to pressing).
But make the players understand that to play, you have to run. You have to press!
As impressive as his own trophy cabinet
It's fair to say that Tottenham revenues and budget are about 2.5 higher than Ajax.
If Pochettino comes to us, what are we going to do about @Amadaeus?
Of course he was and I'm absolutely not against Poch being next United manager, simply pointing out this narrative that cause Ten Haag manages Ajax that automatically means he isn't suitable for United as was suggested on the comment I replied to.
Both are talented young coaches who have done good work at their respective clubs, neither are absolutely perfect and there are concerns over both still of course but both would be vast improvements on Ole I'm sure.
Yeah and he is in Manchester tomorrow
Its also fair to say Ajax probably have the highest Revenue and budget in the Dutch League
Spurs are behind United, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool.
I'd have him here personally. And it wouldn't surprise me if he did come in the middle of the season. PSG never really seemed like a great fir for him. It also seems to be one of those jobs where you can't win. He will be expected to win everything and failure to do so will lead to endless ribbing and opinions on how you're not good enough because if you can't do it there, where can you do it, type of thing.
Yet, winning everything there will simply lead to "well, he's at PSG, what do you expect. Of course he's going to win it all" Similar to how it seems Rodgers is treated by winning all that he did with Celtic. It's like, "yeah, of course he did. So?" Kind of a no win situation.
Yet, winning everything there will simply lead to "well, he's at PSG, what do you expect. Of course he's going to win it all" Similar to how it seems Rodgers is treated by winning all that he did with Celtic. It's like, "yeah, of course he did. So?" Kind of a no win situation.
Kind of missing the point. This is 1st time he’s been in a seat where he should be winning things, let’s see how he does this season but he’s won 1 minor cup, is walking Ligue 1 and will be intriguing to watch them in the CL.
Yep, I agree with that. IMO, both candidates have huge question marks over what they can do with a bigger club, we can see Poch at PSG struggling to implement his playing style. Its all well and good getting average / good players to follow instructions, its a different ball game asking big egos to do the same.
I mentioned it before it's twice as big as the next club but your point was about Spurs CL performances compared to Ajax, wasn't it?
Yes, they got to semi, Spurs got to the final.
Poch is arguably the next best after your Pep's, Klopps and Tuchels...
Poch and PSG was / is a bad fit, was very surprised he took the job, but reckon he felt he had to at the time to stay in the picture of top European clubs.
I think he's wanted the United job now for a few years and will try force this through hopefully.
Its a win win, gets rid of Carrick an Co and we get a superior coach in the door and PSG get ZZ whom they've wanted for a while with their whole "Galactico" mentality.
He's going to toss his passport out the window once he gets to Manchester and refuse to leave the country. 
Yep, on paper Poch definitely suits Manutd, the squad suits him, so lets hope we can get someone in within the next few weeks rather than waiting till the summer.
I'm getting that feeling too. There's like a story out there ready to write itself. Even BBC are publishing Poch being open to an approach.
I think we've been so starved of proper coaching for so long that if Poch does come a lot of fans will be amazed at how sophisticated our football is compared to what we had to sit through before. We really can't afford to be picky about our next manager, the club is in a state and we need to do another rebuild essentially. Poch would be a good appointment.
This seems plausible. Ten Hag was always just a pipe dream I guess. Carrick and the same failing coaching staff for the next month then...yay.
I've been fan of Pochettino since his first season at Spurs or so and still rate him but no doubt there are still some question marks about him. Whole PSG stint is odd, good results but not so good performances without a clear style of play, judging on his Southampton and Spurs days you wouldn't expect Pochettino's team to be without identity. Don't think he's enjoying it there, it's a team full of stars and that probably doesn't suit him. Don't think he'd have that problem at United, at least not to that extent. You could classify Ronaldo, Pogba, Bruno, Rashford as stars but not to an extent of Mbappe/Neymar/Messi, and Pogba is most probably leaving in summer anyways.
Back when he was at Tottenham he was interested in both van de Beek and Bruno so he'd have them now. I even believe we bought them, not only for Ole, but potentially for Pochettino, especially Bruno, he came in January 2020 when there were those crisis with results, Burnley loss etc. Young players could benefit from working with him as well.
Ideally it would maybe be better ih Pochettino was to come in summer though as it gives him time to work with team in preseason.
Back when he was at Tottenham he was interested in both van de Beek and Bruno so he'd have them now. I even believe we bought them, not only for Ole, but potentially for Pochettino, especially Bruno, he came in January 2020 when there were those crisis with results, Burnley loss etc. Young players could benefit from working with him as well.
Ideally it would maybe be better ih Pochettino was to come in summer though as it gives him time to work with team in preseason.
Ban him.
Or change the site name to Amadeus Cafe.
(Actually, it might turn out well - perhaps he'd be slightly less annoying if his idol finally came here, it could lead to some kind of closure, one way or the other).
There is hardly a preseason this summer. The season starts early due to the world cup so he would get maybe two weeks with the player once they have all had their holidays.
Get him in now, the club need to stop writing off seasons!
He's going to toss his passport out the window once he gets to Manchester and refuse to leave the country.
He is going to stop posting, too busy managing. It's Pochettino.
Is it ridiculous?
I am not comparing him with Ole, Ole has actually won trophies in his management career, I am merely saying that people on here had an inherent distrust of Ole due to his lack of trophies for one, yet some on here also clamour for another manager who has won one meaningless trophy in his career so far.
There are definitely nuances, you are correct. At Southampton Poch had the guidance of Cortese, who basically handed Poch some unbelievable players on a plate from the youth academy, and allowed him comfort in a club that was run superbly from top to bottom, can't say he was ever going to win anything but probably done what he could.
He also had his time at Spurs, whereby he spent a lot of money, which seems to have been forgotten, and yet won nothing, people look at Oles time here and claim he has failed, yet Poch's time at Spurs is actually very similar, both made it to a European final, both finished second in the premiership, both won nothing on their respective times,
So, is it really ridiculous?
Thank you for mentioning this. I hate this nonsense where we just casually write off entire season and wait for next one when the current one can still be salvaged. Enough of that bulljive already.
I'd be happy with Poch as the next full time manager, I'd be even happier if we managed to get him while there's still trophies to play for this season
Still feel the summer is more likely though
Still feel the summer is more likely though
Tbh, had he taken over when Jose left, I would have been delighted. He does have a kind of 'damaged goods' feel to him now though, as the past 18 months have been pretty underwhelming from him. I would rather Ten Hag, but if not, then I would certainly take him ahead of Rodgers and Zidane.
I've never really had a strong opinion on Poch; I always felt that he done well at Southampton and his early work at Spurs was impressive. It all went to shit in the end, but it was probably the end of a cycle for a-lot of their players, and he wasn't really backed enough to properly rebuild.
Still though, some weirdos camped out in this and other Poch threads over the years, taking constant pot-shots at him, for anything and everything. Most were the extreme-Ole-in guys, so no doubt they'll be have the knives out for him from day one, if he takes over.
Forgot about World Cup and short preseason. I'm not writing off this season, with an interim like Blanc or Rangnick instead of Carrick we'd probably have strong 2nd half of season. But if this Pochettino to United, Zidane to PSG deals are possible, then fine.
We should have made him the permanent manager right after Ole finished the season as a caretaker. I said it back then so I'd be okay if he becomes the manager now. Still think he is a better than average manager.
Not exactly what we want... if we can get Pochettino asap, then I guess it's fine, we'll see what happens. If we're waiting until the end of the season for Poch, then that's just throwing away a season for a very "meh" option to come on which makes no sense.
I would be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as he was managing 'lads it's Spurs'. It's in their DNA to be an easy touch as shown by them being our only win in the league in months
I'd take Poch now as we need some one immediately and he is probably one of the top 3 who may be realistic. If you NEED to wait till the summer then it's a 'no' on Poch for me.
Tottenham are budget wise, arguably the 6th of the top 6 even during his time, so a point a game, which is essentially a draw is fair performance I'd think?
Yep 1 month doesn't seem long but considering its 8 games and were currently 8th as is... massive concern alright.
Ideally need him ASAP.
This guy knows
Yeah, our season will be dead and buried if Carrick just continues where Ole left off.
I mean a lot of these were in charge of Southampton. And Spurs are hardly fecking Man City, are they?
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