Interim manager discussion: Who replaces the interim interim manger (Carrick)?

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Id actually worry more about Steve Bruce's health if he got the interim job.

The guy looks permanently stressed on the side lines and the Utd job is a heart attack waiting to happen
 
Is there any suggestion there has been movement on finding a credible interim candidate or are they hoping just to give it to Carrick?
 
Buster15 said:
That is a very interesting point about the playing and potential interim manager role.
But it surely did not need to wait for Ole to be sacked for him to take the required action.

My biggest concern with Carrick relates to his mental toughness. We know that he struggled to impose himself as an England international because he was not forceful in the dressing room. And preferred to stand back or say that he was not fit.

Maybe he will find it easier at OT. But we do have a number of strong egos that he is going to have to 'win over'. And their first instinct is going to be. - so what has changed.
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Yes... but perhaps he's been playing the long game... waiting his opportunity to strike... would like to think so, but I suspect I am clutching at straws :)
 
saivet said:
Just looking at their managerial history and they have twice.

Scolari sacked February 2009. Ray Wilkins took over for a week, managed one game before Hiddink took over for the rest of the season, before they appointed Ancelloti.

When Mourinho was sacked for the second time Steve Holland was the manager for a couple of days, in charge for one game before Hiddink took over for the rest of the season. They then brought in Conte at the end of the season.
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I just think how this has been announced I am assuming Carrick is managing for weeks. Hopefully proven wrong.

Get Ten Hag or Poch now!
 
Partridge said:
Ten hag has already said he is very happy where he is. With the players, and the board. He's enjoying himself. I were him, i would not touch us with a ten foot pole.
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Ten Hag's quote yesterday were a come get me plea. Look how he responded to Barca links Vs us. Resounding difference.
 
Why is there actual news reports of Steve Bruce? :lol: :wenger: It's like the news you would make up if you were a Liverpool or City fan to mock United...
 
macheda14 said:
What and for the next week or so before we find an interim the players just coach themselves?
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When a manager goes, his team go with him. That's the normal way. Carrick and Mckenna, not Ole, have been doing the coaching for three years and it's a shambles. The board wasted the international break, when they should have gotten an interim in place. That's a problem in of itself: every other club goes and gets a proper manager in, be it Spurs or Villa, or even Norwich; but not us. We write off the season and say we want an interim. It's a total shit show.
 
I wonder if the World Cup not being until December next year opens up any opportunities to have an international manager until the summer? Most top countries have qualified already - what do any of those managers realistically have to do between now and May?

Regardless, I think the Poch rumour has legs so may not be relevant.
 
The White Pele said:
I wonder if the World Cup not being until December next year opens up any opportunities to have an international manager until the summer? Most top countries have qualified already - what do any of those managers realistically have to do between now and May?

Regardless, I think the Poch rumour has legs so may not be relevant.
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Yeah definitely seems to have legs when you look at who is talking it up
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
What do you lot expect him say? Call Maguire a useless cabbage, Ronaldo a show pony and he's glad that Ole was sent on his bike?
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It's the fact he's spouting the same "all good mates, privledge to be here" gee whiz shite as Ole, it's like another drone off the Olessembly line.
 
Carrick is part of the problem, having him stick around is just an extension of Ole. Astonishing the club haven’t had a plan in place, in Ole’s time we’ve had 3/4 awful run of games and this season alone alarm bells were blaring all the way back to Villa and Everton.

Whoever it is they want whether Poch, Ten Hag or Rodgers, approach them with the offer to come right NOW and pay the compensation fee if any. Don’t brand yourself biggest club in the world them whimper around begging people to come manage you and be so desperate to hang around until of the season.
 
HOW ABOUT - Mark robins as interim untill end the season ?

Doing wonders in the championship.
Worked his up from lower leagues .
knows training and tactics.
will be cheap .

seems to be a old school type manger doing well at Coventry with little money . why not ?
 
keane butt may irwin said:
HOW ABOUT - Mark robins as interim untill end the season ?

Doing wonders in the championship.
Worked his up from lower leagues .
knows training and tactics.
will be cheap .

seems to be a old school type manger doing well at Coventry with little money . why not ?
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Why would he leave a permanent job for a 6 month stint?
 
No change. We will set up in the same systems with the same players. We wont win against either CL opponent.
Said it before on another thread, nothing has changed, EW still involved and will be for the foreseeable future. We need to get the protests started again and not stop until these idiots are out of our club.
 
P-Nut said:
Why would he leave a permanent job for a 6 month stint?
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Because that is what Ole did and a couple of feel good wins and some bollocks about United DNA and it was a 3 year job with a sackful of cash as a parting gift and if you think our board are not stupid enough to repeat this stunt you have not been paying attention.
 
why would people blame Carrick for this? He could just say feck this, no thank you for the job. He knows the CLub set him and Fletcher up for failure but still has the balls to take it temporarily.

Even if he has his own ideas, there's not much time to implement it. It would be stupid to do much change. What he could do now is just to motivate the players and work on their concentration.
 
Isotope said:
why would people blame Carrick for this? He could just say feck this, no thank you for the job. He knows the CLub set him and Fletcher up for failure but still has the balls to take it temporarily.
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Eh... this is actually pretty standard fare for the most senior coaches to take over as interim. There is only a problem if the club forces them to relinquish their current positions.
 
keane butt may irwin said:
HOW ABOUT - Mark robins as interim untill end the season ?

Doing wonders in the championship.
Worked his up from lower leagues .
knows training and tactics.
will be cheap .

seems to be a old school type manger doing well at Coventry with little money . why not ?
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The players have no idea who he is, he's never managed in the premiership and is managing a championship side club

That's why not
 
mu4c_20le said:
Eh... this is actually pretty standard fare for the most senior coaches to take over as interim. There is only a problem if the club forces them to relinquish their current positions.
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Yes. But people expect him to do differently, is just get on my tits. And why would he need to do this? is it on his contract job duty?
 
Maticmaker said:
I would say they are a very big part of the problem.
Just watch the players reaction to situations occurring in-game, its a real eye-opener. The coaching/ management from the touchline is either missing, or is just a series of dumfounded looks on everyone's face. Patterns of play are limited to the ones LvG introduced, in a vain attempt to hold on to the ball, on the basis "they can't score whilst we have the ball", trouble is we're not skilled in these matters, move too slowly and its only put into action many times out of a sense of panic and /or ' we don't know what to do syndrome'.
Admittedly lots of things happen in a match that can present a surprise situation, but there are lots of repeat patterns occurring that our players don't seem to understand or respond to, set pieces are a joke, corner taking laughable, playing out from the back unbelievably bad, applying a high press .... er whats that boss! This is all basic training/coaching that either is not being undertaken, or players are ignoring or don't understand.
Football is a simple game, or should be!

Confidence is low, as low as I can remember seeing, yes the manager takes the ultimate blame, but what happens to the coaches? SAF use to regularly freshen up his backroom boys, from his no 2 position (e.g. Brian Kidd through to Mike Phelan et al).
Some times watching the antics of our players, you begin to wonder if they all train on the same pitch?
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Agree that there will always be situations during the game when you are under extreme pressure. The other team are keeping the ball and you are chasing shadows. Things like that.
And that is precisely when all the work on the training ground comes into play.
Concentration, shape, patience and pressing to win the ball back.

When I watch United, one thing always stands out. And that is an obvious lack of supporting the man with the ball. We pass to a player and then stand there admiring the pass instead of instantly moving into a space to receive the ball giving them options. We are very often too far away or have not created the necessary space, such that the player with the ball becomes isolated and loses possession or has to play a 50/50 pass.
That is an absolute basic. When I was playing, it was all about supporting the man with the ball.
Basic coaching and basic skills.
 
Matt851 said:
It's because it's quite feasible Carrick could be around for longer given the idiocy of ed etc

None of the top international managers would consider doing a dual job or leaving their role before the wc
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You don't know that. The World Cup isn't until this next time next year. It's not in June/July like usual. They'd have plenty of time to still get ready for the WC.
 
roseguy64 said:
You don't know that. The World Cup isn't until this next time next year. It's not in June/July like usual. They'd have plenty of time to still get ready for the WC.
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Which international managers do you think we should try and get, who might be interested then
 
I saw Steve Bruce and family at my favourite pub some weeks ago. He is a big unit and was eating a huge plate of food. Given the stress he had at Newcastle, he would be mad to take any role at United. Poisoned chalice just about describes that role.
 
Gandalf said:
Because that is what Ole did and a couple of feel good wins and some bollocks about United DNA and it was a 3 year job with a sackful of cash as a parting gift and if you think our board are not stupid enough to repeat this stunt you have not been paying attention.
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Ole didn't leave his permanent job while he was interim here. He was still manager at Molde.
 
Matt851 said:
Which international managers do you think we should try and get, who might be interested then
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I can't answer that. I'm just sure that some would be interested considering the timelines involved, especially if their team has already qualified.

So that's Flick, Hjulmand, Tite, Deschamps, Martinez, Dalić, Enrique, Stojković, Southgate, Yakin, LVG, Scaloni and Sánchez.

Wouldn't mind Flick, Hjulmand, Tite, Deschamps or Enrique.
 
This kind of plan does make sense if there's people lined up. Chelsea have done this often enough. Grant, Benitez and Hiddink were all decent short term appointments for Chelsea.

The issue is they had some idea of who they wanted long term where we probably don't...
 
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