Nope. At the PCR test centre today we were all doing our own tests.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Nope. At the PCR test centre today we were all doing our own tests.
It’s definitely possible that covid somehow evades these kits. It’s quite structurally different to “original covid” which they were designed to screen for. That would be a bit of a disaster. I haven’t read anything about that possibility yet though.
Jaysus. Really? In my experience it’s impossible to swab your own sinuses with anything like the same enthusiasm as a professional.
Can't help but get the feeling that, irregardless of how severe Omicron is, the UK is just not in a great place to deal with the outbreak that's guaranteed to happen.
Not enough tests to regularly monitor, not enough boosts in arms, not enough hospital beds, etc.
I think this has always been the crux of the disconnect when it comes to the insufferable pro/antivax debates. What defines the severity of the virus is by no means isolated to the virus itself, it's as much the coping mechanisms that exist around it.
Not enough tests to regularly monitor, not enough boosts in arms, not enough hospital beds, etc.
I think this has always been the crux of the disconnect when it comes to the insufferable pro/antivax debates. What defines the severity of the virus is by no means isolated to the virus itself, it's as much the coping mechanisms that exist around it.
LFTs are piss poor.
yep, and I agree. They don’t give a shite if you’re gagging or feeling uncomfortable whereas you obviously do so won’t do it with the same force. There was a constant stream of people at the walk-in though so I’m not sure if it’s because of the pressure of so many people that they’re resorting to you doing it yourself but it was a bit of a weird experience.
Not sure if I'm just being an idiot also but I'm pretty sure this is also a thing. I've just tried to get some lat flows but they're out, when through the steps for a PCR just to see and it lets me order to home if I wanted.
There will for sure be many more false negatives.
That’s what they do up here in NI
I'm sure it's been covered by some here, but I've not kept abreast of the thread's developments. What do people make of this
According to the South Africans it's far less serious.
I’ve done like 6 PCR tests since my kid goes nursery and every time they get a temp or cough we have to go get tested. Each time we do our own, at a drive-thru centre, and also have to do the one for our 2 year old (I say we, I mean my wife who sits in the back). We open the window slightly, they give us the tests, we do thems Then they scan some barcodes and at the end we pull down our window slightly to drop it into a box.
You also have test at home PCRs. Same as the drive thru example I gave above except obviously they send it home and you post it back.
So, is there any chance that a benign dominant strain of COVID-19 might develop? Each new dominant strain appears to be more transmissible than the previous one, but also, slightly less virulent than the previous one.
Otherwise, I can't see any way out of this.
Otherwise, I can't see any way out of this.
Delta was more virulent than Alpha and the original Wuhan variants. It didn't look like it in the UK because of high vaccine takeup, particularly among the most vulnerable groups. We don't know what omicron would do in an immune naive population either and neither SA or the UK will really be able to answer that question.
If our immune system works the way it normally does, and gets the occasional boost from a vaccine or infection we'll think it's getting milder even if it isn't intrinsically less dangerous.
Why does it seem to an impatient and uninformed person that it's taking ages for scientists to figure out if this is less virulent or not?
As an equally uninformed and impatient observer I guess because the true nature of the impact simply isn't known yet. In a couple of weeks the picture will probably be clearer.
I swear it was two weeks one week ago :-(
It's always two weeks. I feel like a primary school kid waiting for his birthday, where time actually moves backwards.
There needs to be enough data to form a good analysis. Being correct is better than being early. Especially with something like this that could be a game changer.
I guess even if it is less severe for people with it, assuming it won't be is probably the safest bet for now. I'm sure it's not pleasant to have regardless. And honestly if this is an overreaction but it manages to get arses in line for a booster, then all's good.
Some (limited) info on first UK omicron admissions (and one death). Wording is a bit strange. They make clear all the admissions were diagnosed either on or before admission (presumably to rule out coincidental diagnosis when admitted with a different condition) but go on to refer to death happening to someone who was diagnosed in hospital.
Definitely - the upside to this is the kick up the ass it gives the gov and public to go and get boosted
I don't think this helps their cause, if the aim is to get people to take it seriously. Obviously people will take it out of context and declare that"10 isn't very many out of a population of 68 million #GBNews"
You have got headline from the health secretary saying 200k people a day have it then a statement above saying 10 people are in hospital add into that you can trust anything coming out of Boris and co's mouth and i think the booster uptake will be lower then any previous vaccination attempt there will be a surge at the beginning but not so sure it will keep up.
Can't even blame people either the government has been that bad its not surprising.
To be fair to the government (...yeah, I really said that) i think trying to frighten the horses with 200K a day figure is probably the right move even if it's a gross exaggeration. Problem is Boris should not be in the job. It's like Freddy Krueger fronting a campaign to raise awareness of stranger danger targeted towards kids.
We'll know a lot about how it affects under 60s this week - SA data is building up fast for this group. Combined with data coming out of the UK and Denmark we should get some really strong data on cases in those age groups. Almost all of it will be about vaxxed/previously infected people though.
It will be much harder to get trustworthy data on the unvaxxed/not previously infected because it's hard to know if someone has been infected previously unless they actually recorded a positive test (most infections aren't recorded)
It won't be until we hear how it affects the over 60s and those with other risk factors that we know how much trouble we're really in. A couple of weeks for that - unless we start getting superspreader events at parties with lots of oldies - which would be a deeply unethical experiment to run
It won't be until we hear how it affects the over 60s and those with other risk factors that we know how much trouble we're really in. A couple of weeks for that - unless we start getting superspreader events at parties with lots of oldies - which would be a deeply unethical experiment to run
Calling all cruise ships…
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Well who’s told their kids yet that Santa can’t socially distance and is mixing with too many households so he won’t be coming down our chimney?
Scrooge?
Anyway I've seen him on the Tesco's ad and he's got a vaccine pass. I'm sure JvT can get him a booster booking as well, he got him sorted last year.
Haha I was just joking but you never know around here
Getting boosted tomorrow. Pfiz-her?! I barely know her!
Have the daily deaths went back to normal levels? (Before covid) or are they still above previous years? Haven't seen one of those graphs for donkeys.
BBC has it I think on that Covid cases by area page.
Edit: they do:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274
There is still deaths above normal, and excess deaths above that too.
Has anyone managed to book a booster ? The website has been fecked since yesterday, queue for like 10 minutes and then it just times out.
Yes. I did it through my GP though. I'd recommend that.
Took me a couple of hours this morning Try on a laptop rather than phone and clear your internet history.
Wife and I both tested positive on the PCR. Isolation finishes 23 December Midnight. Fingers crossed we can still get home at Xmas.
There are loads of walk-in sites. You can find them on the NHS website.
Got Raab lying about the numbers in hospital this morning with omicron said 250 the reality is 10.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...ong-twice-on-morning-broadcast-round-12495367
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...ong-twice-on-morning-broadcast-round-12495367