Sorry bud... Can one be told which variant it is? Or do scientists just do spot checks?
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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He lies about everything.
Not sure, it didn’t tell us on our result text.
They can't check every case at the moment. They've got a version of the PCR test that has a quirk in its operation that means it can usually spot the difference between Omicron and Delta - but that's just used to build up a statistical picture for incidence levels, by finding probables.
Actual sequencing is more limited again, and takes longer, so again that's a sampling thing, but I think all hospital cases are being sequenced.
As of Saturday, around 20% of UK cases were Omicron. In London it's thought that Omicron now accounts for maybe 80% of cases. It's assumed Omicron will be the majority of new cases across the country by the end of the week.
Not surprisingly it's London where cases in general have grown fastest in the past week or two, and most of that growth is in the 20-40 group. Other age groups, the cases are still roughly flat.
You're really friggen awesome, you know that?
First real world evidence of vaccine (Pfizer) efficacy from SA.
tl;dr Fairly steep drop off in protection vs infection. Moderate reduction in protection vs hospitalisation.
Also a 29% reduction in severity of disease from SA's first wave. Not all bad news.
If I’m reading that correctly also that’s compared to the wave before delta which was already less severe!
Yeah, it’s compared to their first wave. I get a bit confused about the different variants in SA. I don’t think they had the same wuhan->alpha->delta waves we had.
In my household we've done 3 home PCR tests and never got the results back from any of them. Doesn't seem the most well thought-out practice.
I don’t think any of it is bad news. Immune escape was inevitable based on the lab data. It could easily have been a lot worse. If anything, the protection from just two doses is better than expected.
More than 8k in the queue before me now.
I checked yesterday and had something similar. Personally I am not too fussed, I am happy to wait a few more days/weeks if needed.
For it to be a lie he would have to know the real numbers. I’d put that down to old fashioned incompetence.
No, same too although not quite as bad a results ratio as you. We did two and got one result back.
I actually work for, albeit in a different sector, the company doing the lions share of UK / EU covid PCR tests and I can tell you it's no small feat managing it all and sending tests and results through the post. It isn't ideal at all but the sheer volume of tests required nationwide means it's completely necessary. The whole thing has transformed one sector of the company into an enormous speed testing business.
There was a while, when the PCR travel passport took off that 1000's of people were chasing up test results and, while trying to get though to the test centre, would call any phone number they could find on the internet for our company. I was fending off irate callers shouting and screaming for their results. Unbelievable scenes.
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I will try a walk-in center near me. If it takes too long, I will wait as well.
A) to protect yourself
B) to protect others
You may have a good immune system like the majority of people but you haven't got sick much recently because lockdowns/masks/distancing works really well to reduce colds and flu and not just covid
Taking multivitamins/vitamin D/ Fish oil instead of vaccination/boosters to protect against covid is the equivalent of taking calcium tablets instead of wearing a seatbelt and driving a car with airbags, to protect yourself from broken bones.
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Boosted!
Replace alpha with beta for second wave. I think beta was actually the deadliest, although there was zero vaccine coverage for that wave so who knows.
Beta was another immune escape variant, wasn’t it?
Just occurred to me. What would have happened if we had omicron straight off the bat? If it turns out to be less virulent than previous variants that will be mainly be driven by the protection against serious illness from past exposure and/or vaccination.
Mind boggling to think what virus as transmissible and potentially lethal as this could do in a completely naïve population.
…..what an absolutely crazy time we live in right now. I’m for everything and anything as long as it’s not forced at any people’s at the expense of their livelihood. “Involuntary”, as they like to call it.
What I find most outrageous is how somehow the general public for the most part has been convinced that these (corrupt) corporations and governments somehow are looking out for their best interests and have gladly handed over their own well being/life into the hands of these entities. It’s quite sad and shocking that at the end of it all, they can’t see it either gives those entities money or power. As if they care for your well being. Look at their track records.
& this is coming from someone who had cancer recently as 4 years ago. It sure as hell doesn’t mean I can’t be critical of said pharmaceutical manufacturers when things are going on in the world as they are.
PS — if you can’t see already, I’m not even talking about the drugs itself. Purely off the moral/ethics/humanity aspect of it all which is black and white as can be. If someone somehow disagrees with that, then there’s nothing really left to say.
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Feck this virus. I'm tired of this sh*t now.
93% to 70% would actually be terrible for hospitalisations. It would mean there are 4,3 times more hospitalisations.
But SA has had so many undiagnosed infections that it is impossible to control for them, which makes all the ve calculations highly inaccurate. Also the data before has been that delta was more severe than original, whereas they have it other way here. Makes me rather sceptical of the 29% less severe number (it could be more or less or exactly that, but probably impossible again to control for).
Just got boostered. Arm hurts more than the first two.
My arm hurt like a bastard for about a day after I got my booster.
Any idea what actual daily case numbers in the UK are at the moment? Must be a huge undercount with so many people with cold like symptoms not getting tested. Anecdotally seems like everyone is getting it.
I am sorry to hear that. Crossed fingers for you.
Thanks bud, I feel a lot more rough than her but hopefully we can flush it out in time!
So true. Just like the rest. Not even good liars.
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Impossible to take you seriously when you follow and share tweets from so many obvious bad actors. You seem to be stuck in a particularly toxic echo chamber. This is not good for you. Please try and seek more diverse and better informed opinions.
Impossible to take you seriously when you follow and share tweets from so many obvious bad actors. You seem to be stuck in a particularly toxic echo chamber. This is not good for you. Please try and seek more diverse and better informed opinions.
That sentence alone disqualifies you from any serious discussion. It's an argument that's thrown around so often by the anti-vaxxers and it's simply stupid.
In a functioning society, mandatory regulations are needed. If, according to the current state of science, a vaccination helps to ensure that vital interventions and operations and the whole health sector can be carried out without delay, then it damn well has to be done. And if some idiots do not comply with this because they believe it would restrict their self-determination or freedom, then such a vaccination simply has to be compulsory. That's it, and there's no room for further discussion.
Just taken my eldest down for her pcr as she's got a positive lateral flow, Mrs and I are still showing negative.
Looks likely that Spider-Man will become a super villain this Christmas!
Nearly every screening I've looked at of the new movie from tomorrow (Wednesday 15th December) onwards, is half full at least or three quarters to full up completely.
Hundreds of people all queuing, buying food etc then sitting together for two and a half hours, most wont be mask wearing because they'll all be filling their faces and drinking, talking etc. Hopefully I'm wrong and it's not as bad as it sounds..
Spider-Man: Omicron Rises. Opens in cinema's everywhere from Wednesday 15th.
My spider sense is definitely tingling!
Nearly every screening I've looked at of the new movie from tomorrow (Wednesday 15th December) onwards, is half full at least or three quarters to full up completely.
Hundreds of people all queuing, buying food etc then sitting together for two and a half hours, most wont be mask wearing because they'll all be filling their faces and drinking, talking etc. Hopefully I'm wrong and it's not as bad as it sounds..
Spider-Man: Omicron Rises. Opens in cinema's everywhere from Wednesday 15th.
My spider sense is definitely tingling!
Just cancelled our joint 40th party (the other half and myself, same day) for Saturday. because some of our guests although jabbed would definitely count as vulnerable, and others work in the NHS, and although they would have come are quite rightly nervous and didn't want to have them feeling bad if they decided not to come. Absolutely the right call imo but still beyond gutted. No football, no party, feck covid. (Im not fishing for sympathy, i know so so many have lost loved ones, jobs, and more besides, just need to vent at someone who wont feel bad about it)
Hmm - username makes me think this is a personal issue
Ah mate it fecking sucks. Hope you're able to do something to see it in in the new year.
Cheers mate, I'm sure we will, I'm just in the midst of a tantrum at the moment
