Yeah it is impossible to determine what type of munition that is from that range.
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North Korea fired a projectile into the sea of Japan. They've been doing this regularly for several years during their rocket testing.
That's not the same as getting involved.
That's not the same as getting involved.
Yes this is a very bold statement. Be good to see a link or something before posting.
As for the Anonymous/hackng comments. It wouldn't surprise me at all if more serious and effective efforts were Western government organisations and passed off as Anonymous.
And even DDOS attacked and other kiddy hacker activities can have a serious effect if there are enough of them.
And even DDOS attacked and other kiddy hacker activities can have a serious effect if there are enough of them.
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So just NK being NK then. Not much to see there!
In this case I don't think it's that. All signs point to Putin pushing this.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/26/how-ukrainian-defiance-has-derailed-putins-plans
North Korea and Kim are just unhappy they are not getting enough attention.
It will not be weapons. Weapons is not allowed to export to active conflict areas by Norwegian law. It is not just policy. They are now looking over a wish list from Ukraine to see what they can send. Otherwise, the law has to be changed to allow weapons to be sent. I am not certain what we could send if we changed the law either. Nasams is not feasible but would really make an impact. Javelins, M72's maybe. But it is going to be non lethal equipment unless the law is changed. There must be need for protection gear, medical equipment, electronic equipment etc. too. We sell a lot of ammunition and missiles but now when we really SHOULD give away to a friend in need, then it is not allowed. I guess the lawmakers never thought about a scenario like this.
Just Google or look on Twitter. Not linked as projectile fired east supposedly.
Agreed, and I'm no expert by any means, but from what I've read, the strategy was still relevant and similar today regarding a Balkan invasion. Happy to hear alternate takes though, and appreciate it!
Oil depot hit, allegedly.
I think if you are going to say something like that in this thread, which has a new page every ten minutes or so, then the onus should be on you to share a link alongside the statement.
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It's not. You'd plan for/assume the possibility of worst case scenario. It would be factored in to any strategy where it was even a remote possibility. They might have hoped to avoid it but there's no way in hell they wouldn't be prepared for it
Sorry someone else did though above - was widely reported
On that note, Google doesn't work for me. It better not be Russia.
Yes, think it might be grad.
I doubt our laws will be changed quickly enough to allow us to ship weapon systems in time, sadly.
Laws can be changed, and I don't see why this one wouldn't be.
No announcements from Putin yet? For someone who is fighting neo nazis he's awfully quiet.
Fair, although I’d encourage you to back channel every link on here rather than think ‘link = fact’. It was widely reported as well so assumed easy to quickly cross reference.
Right but Putin isn’t a military strategist. He should have absolutely no say in the “how and when”. Guys under him need to be coordinated. I’m assuming that’s Shoygu whom is above them all. Interesting choice considering he has never served a day in his life.
Of course Putin will push this. He has been briefed relentlessly I bet that Ukraine will just roll over and show its belly. We both could be right and we both could be wrong in certain respects but Russian military is a joke.
just be mindful. There are a lot of people choosing to get their updates on this crisis from this forum, and such a direct statement could cause some unnecessary fear and alarm. The initial statement could be interpreted as North Korea launching a missive at someone, but in reality it’s a non story.
Ny thought too.. Our state affairs are far too beuracratic. But at least we hopefully can help with other necessary military equipment.
While this is plainly not going as planned is there any real possibility of Putin being overthrown? Is there any real internal opposition in places of sufficient power?
They've been preparing for SWIFT being used politically, everyone has since Iran and the US imposing it's will. The issue is the alternatives aren't as good but last i read SWIFT was only modelled as a few percent GDP impact.
People are overestimating it's impact compared to actual full blown banking sanctions. Those are what will really hurt Russia as they make even the alternatives suddenly very difficult to achieve.
It's difficult to believe Putin wouldn't have assumed the west would impose heavy sanctions. I just don't think he cares about hardship being imposed on his countrymen.
Europe have okayed disconnecting certain banks from SWIFT, so consider it done and approved. At least half of CB reserves will be frozen. Good luck supporting ever falling ruble. They will not be able to get loans from US and EU which will be a huge mess. Looking at how irritated the Russian MFA's spokesperson has been lately, it seems that nobody was prepared for this. Or everybody knew everything, but Putin was caught in bad mood and decided to burn every bloody thing down.
Why are russians using dark to up the ante, when they're fighting in enemy territory, who know their terrain and surroundings?
it’s not that link = fact. It’s just more context within your post I.e. a verified link, means any anxiety won’t last as long as reading that North Korea got involved and launched a missile.
All due respect, @noodlehair, you are right in some ways, and also wrong. They may have all the information, but it doesn't mean they'll accept it. Too many instances where the man in charge won't be considering that. History is littered with leaders who make decisions and decide to reject that intelligence and information that doesn't fit their point of view. Hitler and Napoleon invading Russia in the Winter (it doesn't require a rocket scientist to tell you that's a bad idea), GW Bush and Blair in Iraq, Trump (basically every f*cking day, it's everywhere. Nobody knows if Putin is a rational actor at this point, and quite a few people want to give him, and the Russians, more credit than the deserve, in my opinion.
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Navalny is imprisoned. The Oligarchs won't muster much because I suspect a lot of their assets are diversified out of the country. Yes they will be hit but not to a state where they don't have money.
Sounds crazy but I think the only way he can be overthrown is by the people? We've just come out of Covid and people are hoping to get on with life now. A collapse in Russia will be too much to just sit there and not say anything.
Would literally tell them to get fecked
Nah. Its this attitude of "cant do anything to piss off Vlad or out come the nukes" that enables his entire strategy. It only works because people believe it. If a few Russian jets get shot down over Kyiv, thats not a reason for nuclear war.
As someone else put it, how many British planes would need to get shot out of the sky before Bojo would be saying "nuke em"? Ditto USA or anyone else. If Putin launches nukes, the rest of the world collectively launches nukes back. Its called mutually assured destruction for a reason.
Putin and his inner circle are not such lunatics that they will die, and have their country destroyed, over the sake of losing air superiority above Ukraine. Putin likes people to believe that he is insane enough to do it, because thats his strategy, and so far it has worked. He isnt that stupid, the whole thing is a charade, designed to intimidate opponents into submission and non-resistance, and for every nation that buys into the pantomime, the more it is working.
After we witnessed him bullying his spy chief...I'm pessimistic.
I’d hope if North Korea were launching a missile at someone, we wouldn’t find out on redcafe! But all good, I get the point.