Hound Dog
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Chilling. This is a philosophy that our leaders had in the 90s. Croatians and Bosnians are Serbs, they just do not know it.
Didn't see anyone claiming that'd be the case, though.
Against the West:Stop lying.
Where did I say it is mainly the wests fault?
I'm not sure about this, maybe @harms van enlighten us more, but I am under the impression that Russia does not care so much about the Jews in regard to the Nazi time? Not out of spite but simply due to the atrocities that happened in the war on behalf of both sides. While the German west front was a battle against their own or equal races (according to the Nazis obviously) and therefore a bit less brutal, in the east the fight was against the slavic "subhumans" who weren't treated much better than the jews.Lying prick. He knows exactly what he’s doing. Blowing up the Haulocaust Memorial the Ukraine built for them sure showed those Nazi’s eh? Murdering bastard.
yeah ive just stopped replying to him. Clearly delusional. Someone needs to do their research on all the mass graves dug during saddams reign. Regardless of how USA prob made some shit up, there were quite a few demonstrations world wide against the invasion, Ukraine isnt anywhere near the same level as that regime.The fact you’re grading these things is worrying. One worse than the other.
The fact you’re grading these things is worrying. One worse than the other.
still doesn’t answer my question, do you realize how many lives will be lost in the process before we can even get to the point you’re suggesting. who is going to be responsible for the lives lost?
well when you have such shit posters trying to blame a country for allowing themselves to be invaded by russia not much to debate im afraid. My fault for venturing outside football forum to see how trash some people are in reality.
And an edit here, the fact that a staff member can think this is a thread that should see "debate" is frankly insulting. There is no debating this.
You’ll need to look back
Yeh how about massive global sanctions on the invader, and providing help/weapons to Iraq to defend their home country against the evil? Its nothing like that and you know what I am talking about.You mean apart from the millions who demonstrated against the war around the world? And the major countries who opposed it (incl. Germany and France)? It is a myth that nobody cared about the Iraq, but clearly a popular myth.
Against the West:
"The US and the West should never have enticed Ukraine about joining NATO.
It was directly threatening to Russia.
Non military benefits should not have been conditional on Ukraine joining NATO.
But lets not pretend the West did not have a huge role in what is happening now. "
Against Russia:
"No one can justify Putin invading Ukraine."
What's your definition of huge? Mine would be extremely large portion, massive, enormous etc. If you were to split this into percentages, what would you class as "huge"?
Yeh how about massive global sanctions on the invader, and providing help/weapons to Iraq to defend their home country against the evil? Its nothing like that and you know what I am talking about.
Can you please take your propaganda elswhere.The US and the West should never have enticed Ukraine about joining NATO.
It was directly threatening to Russia.
Non military benefits should not have been conditional on Ukraine joining NATO.
No one can justify Putin invading Ukraine.
But lets not pretend the West did not have a huge role in what is happening now.
Can you please take your propaganda elswhere.
There was no reason whatsoever for Iraq.
With Ukraine there was history. I just posted above. Not justifying what Putin did.
If you mean both were wrong. Yes.
They live in a different reality to the rest of us.
You said one was worse than the other which to be honest I can’t comprehend and suggests your own biases.
Diplomacy ain't working with these lot![]()
Lost? We're conversing on a forum. Winning and losing now, really?You lost with your lie.
Stop splitting hairs.
How was Iraq a threat to the US?
The sad thing is that many people watching on Russian TV will swallow this outrageous lie.They have been painting the Ukrainians as nazis and”fashisti” (a word truly impossible to translate as it basically designates the enemy of the day, whether Oceania or Eurasia) for many years. Apparently Stop the War idiiots living in a free country with no censorship also adopt this line.
People conveniently forget about Iraq which is actually worse because that war was totally for a made up reason.
The sad thing is that many people watching on Russian TV will swallow this outrageous lie.They have been painting the Ukrainians as nazis and”fashisti” (a word truly impossible to translate as it basically designates the enemy of the day, whether Oceania or Eurasia) for many years. Apparently Stop the War idiiots living in a free country with no censorship also adopt this line.
State of Indian media.
So exactly the same as this one then?
The idea that the Ukrainian leadership are drug addled Nazis, and that the Ukrainian and Russian people are one, are just as made up as the false claims of WMDs in Iraq.
TBF that wouldn’t out of place on Fox News. Could easily imagine the screaming host and inevitable gaffe from someone like Laura Inghram.
You’re trying to hijack the thread and grading past conflicts to suit your own agenda. I find it quite disrespectful to be honest.
Yeh how about massive global sanctions on the invader, and providing help/weapons to Iraq to defend their home country against the evil? Its nothing like that and you know what I am talking about.
Yeh how about massive global sanctions on the invader, and providing help/weapons to Iraq to defend their home country against the evil? Its nothing like that and you know what I am talking about.
Well I'd be surprise if anyone could fix what's going on in Ukraine here.Does this fix what’s going on in Ukraine?
Exactly. I wonder if he is just doing that deliberately to look as a main negotiator, who may end this bloody invasion? Does he believe that French population like that?
You’re trying to hijack the thread and grading past conflicts to suit your own agenda. I find it quite disrespectful to be honest.
These are facts and you can't put fingers in your ears to ignore them
These are facts and you can't put fingers in your ears to ignore them
if only there were mods who could actually keep this thread to the updates about ukraine invasion.The sun was shining here today. That's a fact, too, and about as relevant to this thread.