Chilling. This is a philosophy that our leaders had in the 90s. Croatians and Bosnians are Serbs, they just do not know it.
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Chilling. This is a philosophy that our leaders had in the 90s. Croatians and Bosnians are Serbs, they just do not know it.
You’ll need to look back
Against the West:
"The US and the West should never have enticed Ukraine about joining NATO.
It was directly threatening to Russia.
Non military benefits should not have been conditional on Ukraine joining NATO.
But lets not pretend the West did not have a huge role in what is happening now. "
Against Russia:
"No one can justify Putin invading Ukraine."
What's your definition of huge? Mine would be extremely large portion, massive, enormous etc. If you were to split this into percentages, what would you class as "huge"?
I'm not sure about this, maybe @harms van enlighten us more, but I am under the impression that Russia does not care so much about the Jews in regard to the Nazi time? Not out of spite but simply due to the atrocities that happened in the war on behalf of both sides. While the German west front was a battle against their own or equal races (according to the Nazis obviously) and therefore a bit less brutal, in the east the fight was against the slavic "subhumans" who weren't treated much better than the jews.
yeah ive just stopped replying to him. Clearly delusional. Someone needs to do their research on all the mass graves dug during saddams reign. Regardless of how USA prob made some shit up, there were quite a few demonstrations world wide against the invasion, Ukraine isnt anywhere near the same level as that regime.
There was no reason whatsoever for Iraq.
With Ukraine there was history. I just posted above. Not justifying what Putin did.
If you mean both were wrong. Yes.
So you don't trust anyone in Moscow to do the right thing before it even gets there? Either a disheartened high official will kill the bald cnut or the masses will get rid of the entire regime when boiling point will be met at home.
edit: The Russian constitution has Article 92 as means to remove a president incapable of serving presidential duties if that's the only way to remove the problem peacefully. Should the Duma say that's enough, then there is nothing Putin can do.
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I don't understand it either.
Ah, I misinterpreted the context a little bit. But imo his general sentiment seems reasonable - the UK on its own lost a lot of international influence, but is by no means far behind anyone else in Europe bar Germany in France.
The sad thing is that many people watching on Russian TV will swallow this outrageous lie.They have been painting the Ukrainians as nazis and”fashisti” (a word truly impossible to translate as it basically designates the enemy of the day, whether Oceania or Eurasia) for many years. Apparently Stop the War idiiots living in a free country with no censorship also adopt this line.
Yeh how about massive global sanctions on the invader, and providing help/weapons to Iraq to defend their home country against the evil? Its nothing like that and you know what I am talking about.
It’s really hard watching the Ukrainians begging for the west to bring in a NFZ
Does this fix what’s going on in Ukraine?
Can you please take your propaganda elswhere.
It is you who is buying into propaganda.
But I expect that just went over your head.
You said one was worse than the other which to be honest I can’t comprehend and suggests your own biases.
How was Iraq a threat to the US?
Diplomacy ain't working with these lot
Meanwhile the USA is still buying Russian gas. Putin's got Biden by the balls.
Lost? We're conversing on a forum. Winning and losing now, really?
Genuinely interested in your answer btw...if you have one.
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You’re trying to hijack the thread and grading past conflicts to suit your own agenda. I find it quite disrespectful to be honest.
Tankies never learn and never change. I dread to think Labour’s position if Jezza were still leader.
So exactly the same as this one then?
The idea that the Ukrainian leadership are drug addled Nazis, and that the Ukrainian and Russian people are one, are just as made up as the false claims of WMDs in Iraq.
Of course they will: "liberation of Ukraine". "Human sheilds". These lies are told to Americans all the time and they gobble it up. So will the Russians.
Tanks near the nuclear plant in Zaphorizhzhia.
Also problems with electricity in the city.. hope that does not effect the plants.
State of Indian media.
TBF that wouldn’t out of place on Fox News. Could easily imagine the screaming host and inevitable gaffe from someone like Laura Inghram.
i think Putin is an bona-fide evil meglomaniac, and he is directly responsible for the horrors facing people in ukraine right now. Many of the lines he is using, 'precision / surgical strikes', civilian casualties due to human shields, concept of enemy combatants' are from the same playbook used by the west when attacking iraq, afghanistan etc etc.
I don't thin there's much difference, so I'm agreeing with you Ukraine did kill children in the donbas with missile attacks. I'd say Iraq was a little more "random". Both are stupid acts of aggression.
Laura Ingharam is the worst of the worst but you don't have to look far to find such examples on Indian media.
No agenda.
We don’t have global sanctions now - it’s basically North Amercia and Europe plus close allies like Australia. India, China and the rest are still trading with Russia. And, in 2003, who exactly was going to sanction the sole superpower, the country that prints the global reserve currency?
That's not what you said. I cannot read your thoughts. You said "nobody cared". That's wrong. Be clearer next time!
Iraq wasn't invaded to be annexed or subjugated. It was (partly) invaded to overthrow a tyrannical government that had initiated war against two of its neighbors and attacked its own citizens with chemical weapons. Many Shia and Kurds (and probably some Sunni as well) are happy that the mass murderer Saddam is gone. The war was still wrong, though, because of the lies, the questionable motives, the crimes committed by US soldiers, the innocent civilians that died, the instability it created that would later contribute to ISIS. But it's still nothing like Ukraine, a rather free and democratic nation, that is invaded to be subjugated by an evil imperialist dictator.
It would have been good to make the US pay a price for their unjust war, but that is unrealistic as the US are the dominant economy in the world and the most important ally for European countries.
Well I'd be surprise if anyone could fix what's going on in Ukraine here.
It's Zelensky that asked him to be in contact with Putin according to official communicates. It has nothing to do with the French population.
These are facts and you can't put fingers in your ears to ignore them
The sun was shining here today. That's a fact, too, and about as relevant to this thread.
You were putting your fingers in your ears the other day when I asked you a few things?
The poster is grading wars from better to worse. If that’s cool with you then okay
if only there were mods who could actually keep this thread to the updates about ukraine invasion.