Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

This is likely why the Ukrainians are doing so well on the ground, I reckon.



100% . The Ukrainian side generally know what the Russians are doing, which will be valuable once they are rearmed with Stingers and Javelins.
 
That is LITERALLY what you said.
Yes, if a war spread to UK I would expect nationals from the agressor nation to be interred. It's happened before (WWII) and, no doubt, would happen in any future conflict.

I did not mention this war at all.
 
Except NATO isnt democratic. If it is s 50+1 could have bought the entrance ticket.

It's just US deciding who's in and who's not.

The US provides most of the muscle. If Germany does rearm, then maybe Europe can rebalance the relationship. Until then, the UK and France are not enough of a counterweight.
 
There's people in here who think the same way. Yesterday one lovely individual was talking about rounding up Russians in foreign countries and putting them in camps.

Fascism has been rising again in Europe and can't help but feel this war is only going to make things worse.

Equally there’s people trying to spin this to suit their own agendas against the west.

Things like this bring out the worst in people
 
That Chinihiv video is horrific, apparnetly 2 schools hit, woman in the backgound screaming "there are kids, there are kids".

 
Just saw this on my Twitter feed. Is this real? Could Putin get anymore isolated than when the US’s enemies are calling him out publicly?



i went to his profile and this was yesterday.
 
High payouts and pensions for families of dead soldiers will encourage women to produce children to fuel the war, and through their death they can climb the social ladder in a stagnant economy.



https://t.me/stalin_gulag/2036
 
A coincidence that the french president is running in the french presidental elections which are organized every 5 years around the same period?
Yes, should have held the elections last year or next year to dissipate the doubts.
 
It's cool how you, and people like you, keep taking away agency from the Ukrainian people. It's not like they're massively in favor of joining NATO and the EU, and massively opposed to the idea of being a Russian puppet state.

Nah, they're just a pawn in a game between Russia and the West, and aren't allowed to make the choices they think best benefit them. Might as well just have given up the idea of being a sovereign nation, seeing as how the only thing they're apparently allowed to do is slowly being ground down by Russia. Because this was coming, Putin's been coveting Ukraine for years, and he was always going to move to bring them into the Russian sphere of influence.

Are you suggesting that Nato members are not sovereign states? The false equivalencies in this thread never cease to amaze me.
 
Just saw this on my Twitter feed. Is this real? Could Putin get anymore isolated than when the US’s enemies are calling him out publicly?



i went to his profile and this was yesterday.


Wow, that's a change of tune.

He been hacked?
 
I fear for Ukraine. First signs of slowing media coverage are visible where I live, it's not as prominent on the front page anymore. The Ukrainians are losing the momentum. Any positive breakthrough for Ukraine will have to come from the sanctions hitting Russia hard. Because Russia doesn't look like they'll quit.
 
Wow, that's a change of tune.

He been hacked?

If you've followed his account for the past few years, he's become a bit of a wummish social media influencer who say stuff like this on a regular basis.
 
I fear for Ukraine. First signs of slowing media coverage are visible where I live, it's not as prominent on the front page anymore. The Ukrainians are losing the momentum. Any positive breakthrough for Ukraine will have to come from the sanctions hitting Russia hard. Because Russia doesn't look like they'll quit.
My thinking too. This is gonna get worse before it gets better, and is going to end with catastrophic consequences for Ukraine. As Obama said, Ukraine is more important for Russia than it is for us.

However, if they valiantly fight, there is hope that Ukraine will continue to exist and probably become again sovereign after a regime change in Moscow. If not, their name will be forgotten as has been for many parts of Russia.
 
Are you suggesting that Nato members are not sovereign states? The false equivalencies in this thread never cease to amaze me.
Left out a couple of words somehow, so I could see how you'd think that. Hopefully it reads as it was intended to now.
 
I fear for Ukraine. First signs of slowing media coverage are visible where I live, it's not as prominent on the front page anymore. The Ukrainians are losing the momentum. Any positive breakthrough for Ukraine will have to come from the sanctions hitting Russia hard. Because Russia doesn't look like they'll quit.

Coverage in the US has also slowed down a bit in recent days (although its back with a vengeance today). One of the problems media outlets are going to run into is keeping their correspondents in very dangerous areas due to the indiscriminate nature of Russian bombings in civilian areas. I can't imagine news organizations justifying the risk of putting their correspondents in that much danger.
 

A lot of words to try and argue that the nuclear threat has no meaningful line to draw on either side. But of course it has. Pure sophistry.

To try and argue that Putin would ignore the threat of NATO if they don't intervene in Ukraine is just naive. As is imagining that Putin would ignore NATO overtly joining the war in Ukraine. Yet Kasparov openly steps into both obvious blunders.

And no, while war is terrible this is not (yet) genocide. I guess Kasparov can't really sense proportions very well.
 
A lot of words to try and argue that the nuclear threat has no meaningful line to draw on either side. But of course it has. Pure sophistry.

To try and argue that Putin would ignore the threat of NATO if they don't intervene in Ukraine is just naive. As is imagining that Putin would ignore NATO overtly joining the war in Ukraine. Yet Kasparov openly steps into both obvious blunders.
Agreed, I didn't find him convincing. I think Putin considered this a one time golden opportunity to 'catch' Ukraine as it still wasn't in the NATO. An extremely brazen move, and we'll have to wait out the sanctions, but I don't see him attacking the Baltics.
 
Fuuuuck me. How can anyone be so dumb to publicly say this? The Athletic’s journalist refused to report it at first as he was so disgusted with it.

 
Fuuuuck me. How can anyone be so dumb to publicly say this? The Athletic’s journalist refused to report it at first as he was so disgusted with it.



She is just getting a preemptive defense in when everyone starts asking why the Saudis are allowed to run Newcastle but Russians are not.
 
Agreed, I didn't find him convincing. I think Putin considered this a one time golden opportunity to 'catch' Ukraine as it still wasn't in the NATO. An extremely brazen move, and we'll have to wait out the sanctions, but I don't see him attacking the Baltics.

The one thing I don’t get - why didn’t he invade 18 months ago when his mate was in the White House? If the US was on the sidelines, I doubt Europe would have felt emboldened to take such decisive action.
 
"Why should I suffer misfortune just because I amassed a fortune from allying with extremely evil people? I don't think that's particularly fair."
 
Agreed, I didn't find him convincing. I think Putin considered this a one time golden opportunity to 'catch' Ukraine as it still wasn't in the NATO. An extremely brazen move, and we'll have to wait out the sanctions, but I don't see him attacking the Baltics.
Not with over half his army currently in Ukraine. Any further escalations from Russia will either come in Ukraine itself, or hybrid operations.
 
The one thing I don’t get - why didn’t he invade 18 months ago when his mate was in the White House? If the US was on the sidelines, I doubt Europe would have felt emboldened to take such decisive action.
That's the big sliding doors moment in all this. We're very lucky trump is not in the white house right now.
 
Fuuuuck me. How can anyone be so dumb to publicly say this? The Athletic’s journalist refused to report it at first as he was so disgusted with it.



Poor Roman, innocently making his fortune in the notoriously civilised aluminium wars of the 90s. Although I’d still take him any day of the week over Staveley’s boss,
 
More needs to be done for Ukraine. This can not be allowed to go on :(

 
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