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That 2nd woman reaction. Unconditional support for Putin.

@harms I know you to be a sensible guy. But some of these reactions make my blood boil. I've visited Moscow about 10 years ago. Fell in love with it. I've had great respect for Russia, but now all that is gone. I'm .... No, I'm not goint to say how I feel about Russia right now. And I know not everyone is like some of these people. I also admire the courage some folks had to say what they believe.

But I'm just left with a sour taste in my mouth.

Yeah, it's horrible. There are a lot of interesting psychological studies on how propaganda works — people that experience a traumatic event would adopt the first simple concept that would allow them to forget about it. The woman around the 4:00 mark is the perfect example — the way that she got caught on the second question (defend from whom?).

It's not an excuse though. People should take responsibility, especially in the times like this. The pragmatist in me thinks that the disastrous outcome of economic sanctions may work better to instigate their activity than the suffering of their neighbouring country's population.
 
Yeah, it's horrible. There are a lot of interesting psychological studies on how propaganda works — people that experience a traumatic event would adopt the first simple concept that would allow them to forget about it. The woman around the 4:00 mark is the perfect example — the way that she got caught on the second question (defend from whom?).

It's not an excuse though. People should take responsibility, especially in the times like this. The pragmatist in me thinks that the disastrous outcome of economic sanctions may work better to instigate their activity than the suffering of their neighbouring country's population.

Do you think they were worried the reporting might be a cover up to get them to share views that could land them in trouble?

Asking as I really felt for the young guy who talked about abstaining from sharing his views because of the consequences.
 


That 2nd woman reaction. Unconditional support for Putin.

@harms I know you to be a sensible guy. But some of these reactions make my blood boil. I've visited Moscow about 10 years ago. Fell in love with it. I've had great respect for Russia, but now all that is gone. I'm .... No, I'm not goint to say how I feel about Russia right now. And I know not everyone is like some of these people. I also admire the courage some folks had to say what they believe.

But I'm just left with a sour taste in my mouth.

Many must have an inner conflict going on. The person at 3.30 admits it, cant say anything for consequences
 


I've visited Moscow about 10 years ago. Fell in love with it. I've had great respect for Russia, but now all that is gone.


Yeah, I think that video should be an absolute must watch for everyone on Earth tbh…

It shows the complexity of the situation that’s going on, and also makes it clear that the Russian public is largely either deluded or too afraid to even offer an opinion.

I think we could gain a lot of understanding by simply looking at Brexit, and how, in a relatively free nation, just a few years of propaganda and nationalism can seduce a nation to illogically handicap itself with no gain whatsoever - so imagine what TWENTY YEARS of Putin mind feckery has done to that country.

They’re all, without exception, either clueless or helpless - as in, the people who can see through it daren’t express that and can do utterly nothing about it so better to just get on with their lives.

Russia should really now be seen as another North Korea. It’s beyond reform and Putin will not be ousted.

Really sad, and I especially feel for the intellectuals there.

I think globally, we really need to start consciously dismantling this toxic nationalism that has risen during Putin’s era (in other countries) and is leading the World down a very dark path.

We need to shut down and stop giving legitimacy to the avenues that allow ideas like Putin’s to develop.

We need to make sure such ideology is immediately sniffed out and removed.
 
Yeah, I think that video should be an absolute must watch for everyone on Earth tbh…

It shows the complexity of the situation that’s going on, and also makes it clear that the Russian public is largely either deluded or too afraid to even offer an opinion.

I think we could gain a lot of understanding by simply looking at Brexit, and how, in a relatively free nation, just a few years of propaganda and nationalism can seduce a nation to illogically handicap itself with no gain whatsoever - so imagine what TWENTY YEARS of Putin mind feckery has done to that country.

They’re all, without exception, either clueless or helpless - as in, the people who can see through it daren’t express that and can do utterly nothing about it so better to just get on with their lives.

Russia should really now be seen as another North Korea. It’s beyond reform and Putin will not be ousted.

Really sad, and I especially feel for the intellectuals there.

I think globally, we really need to start consciously dismantling this toxic nationalism that has risen during Putin’s era (in other countries) and is leading the World down a very dark path.

We need to shut down and stop giving legitimacy to the avenues that allow ideas like Putin’s to develop.

We need to make sure such ideology is immediately sniffed out and removed.
Putinism in Europe should be treated same way as communism in sixties-eighties. Completely unacceptable. Prosecute the leaders of those parties by checking where does the money come from.
 
Do you think they were worried the reporting might be a cover up to get them to share views that could land them in trouble?

Asking as I really felt for the young guy who talked about abstaining from sharing his views because of the consequences.
Most likely.
 
Putinism in Europe should be treated same way as communism in sixties-eighties. Completely unacceptable. Prosecute the leaders of those parties by checking where does the money come from.

Completely agree. It really needs to become ‘a thing’ where any sniff of it is immediately loudly called out and the public are taught about it and how to spot it.

It simply must be weeded out at this point, at the very least that’s what should come out of this awful invasion (in other countries - Europe and America).

It’s all well and good sanctioning Russia - but it’s Putin’s revolting and dangerous influence and meddling that needs to be removed most of all.
 
Plenty of companies use Microsoft for convenience but no one actually depend on them, at worst this decision is a temporary hindrance but not something that can't be worked around pretty quickly.

How do you make Github not available in Russia? I kind of hope that the people using Github know how to work around geo-blocking.

There's a lot of companies depending on Microsoft for cloud or on premise server services. Actually, Microsoft has made sure you grow more and more dependant on them especially in the past few years. For bigger companies it'll only be a setback since they could move their data somewhere else for a lot of smaller ones it could be a real issue.
 
This Happened Today

According to CNN, Russian legislators have passed a law against any derogatory media reports about Russia aggression against Ukraine. They plan on imposing a 15 year violation for reports and/or anything to do with promoting sanctions.
 
This Happened Today

According to CNN, Russian legislators have passed a law against any derogatory media reports about Russia aggression against Ukraine. They plan on imposing a 15 year violation for reports and/or anything to do with promoting sanctions.
prob all ukraines fault according to some posters that have been in here spouting usual russian Bullshit
 
There's a lot of companies depending on Microsoft for cloud or on premise server services. Actually, Microsoft has made sure you grow more and more dependant on them especially in the past few years. For bigger companies it'll only be a setback since they could move their data somewhere else for a lot of smaller ones it could be a real issue.

It won't be long before other cloud providers follow.
 
The people responsible for this will never be held accountable by a war crime tribunal, so I sincerely hope there's a concerted campaign to identify and kill them in the years to come.

https://v.redd.it/hxcma9vmhdl81

I'm assuming that's the apartment building that had the middle section collapse. Has there been any word of casualties from it? I mean if they were fully occupied it must have been massive. So tragic.
 
Putinism in Europe should be treated same way as communism in sixties-eighties. Completely unacceptable. Prosecute the leaders of those parties by checking where does the money come from.

Starting with the Conservative party.
 
Yeah, it's horrible. There are a lot of interesting psychological studies on how propaganda works — people that experience a traumatic event would adopt the first simple concept that would allow them to forget about it. The woman around the 4:00 mark is the perfect example — the way that she got caught on the second question (defend from whom?).

It's not an excuse though. People should take responsibility, especially in the times like this. The pragmatist in me thinks that the disastrous outcome of economic sanctions may work better to instigate their activity than the suffering of their neighbouring country's population.

I'm afraid they will just become more entrenched in their views, because Putin was right: "Western powers want to destroy us!". If there is thing I believe is that Russians can endure a lot of hardship.

I think we could gain a lot of understanding by simply looking at Brexit, and how, in a relatively free nation, just a few years of propaganda and nationalism can seduce a nation to illogically handicap itself with no gain whatsoever - so imagine what TWENTY YEARS of Putin mind feckery has done to that country.

My father has worked in Moscow and Turkmenistan (former Soviet republic) in the 90s. He also learned russian as a kid. So he's a bit of russiophile. I'm afraid what will happen next time I talk to him about it. I imagine a lot of insults about naivety and stupidity. In 2014 he praised Putin for annexing Crimea and instigating revolts in DNR and LNR. I believe he supports Putin because he see's him as an opposition to the evil empire of UK and their puppet USA (yep, it's USA who's the puppet).

It's just fascinating how people can be so... wrong.
 
It won't be long before other cloud providers follow.
Wouldn't this be a bad thing in the long term?
Welcome to 'Kremlin Kloud'....

Surely Putin can set a cloud based system for companies to use, allowing him to control pretty much anything online?
 
Someone should spare a thought for the Trumplicans. They’re about to go through some trying times now that their daily drip of Russian propaganda isn’t coming in.


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Wouldn't this be a bad thing in the long term?
Welcome to 'Kremlin Kloud'....

Surely Putin can set a cloud based system for companies to use, allowing him to control pretty much anything online?

How's he gonna do it, if he can't buy CPUs. Everything is either Intel or AMD and they are withdrawing too. It would take more time than Putin has.
 
Wouldn't this be a bad thing in the long term?
Welcome to 'Kremlin Kloud'....

Surely Putin can set a cloud based system for companies to use, allowing him to control pretty much anything online?

Within Russia maybe.
 
Yeah, it's horrible. There are a lot of interesting psychological studies on how propaganda works — people that experience a traumatic event would adopt the first simple concept that would allow them to forget about it. The woman around the 4:00 mark is the perfect example — the way that she got caught on the second question (defend from whom?).

It's not an excuse though. People should take responsibility, especially in the times like this. The pragmatist in me thinks that the disastrous outcome of economic sanctions may work better to instigate their activity than the suffering of their neighbouring country's population.

It's sad because not a lot can be done about it. And considering that in the west where we have free access to a lot of news, sources and information people are still susceptible to propaganda, as we have seen in recent years and now as well with some people in the west parroting Putin's propaganda about this war. So it's hard to blame people who have limited access to information for a variety of reasons and who have also been indoctrinated with a specific kind of thinking about your country or your leader etc, or who have just had the dissent beaten out of them mentally or physically.

That is often the case, that people really only start caring when it's their livelihood is at stake, this idea that people will fight for freedom or against evil hasn't really proven itself in real life. If you look at most uprising often there's economic downturn at the foundation of it rather some ideal of freedom (for yourself and others).

Instead of all this performative anti-Russian, "we're gonna ban Russian vodka" nonsense we should be doing more to encourage dissent or even to get people to defect. It's better to try get more people on your side than to chase them away with some of the bs we see developing in the west.
 
Speaking of troll farms, we should turn this around and start doing it the other way round tonget the truth through to the populafion, shpuldn't we?

Maybe even develop a virus that slumbers on the devices and wakes up once it has infected enough to then provide a coverage of the war. Find ways to get through to them.
 
I hope this is just rumours.

What exactly can you gain from withholding relevant information from your allies, especially in time of war?

Stopping Russia knowing exactly what your intelligence gathering is capable of.