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I imagine Israel is in a tricky position given the Russian involvement in Syria. If you piss off Putin, his armed forces are literally next door to them.
Probably over the top in my original comment.
What I'm curious to know is are the Russian casualties as high as what's said on social media or is it a bit of posturing. There is definitely a move by the west to make Russia look incompetent via information/misinformation. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle as always. Don't get me wrong I hope Ukraine hold them off for as long as it takes (with as little casualties on both sides as possible). I'm just skeptical that Russia are doing as poorly as they say.
One twitter person said it was 'in secret' but that could just be a guess. Maybe he's doing what Macron is trying (getting Russia to stop) but in person. Seems a big risk to give Russia any help right now with how things have gone
Most people know this, yet hasn't stopped Kremlin propaganda (fighting Neo Nazis).
Israel has a massive modern army. And around 200 nukes.
Yeah, you have to make sure that you don't go over the top while it's true that Russia is much more struggling than most expected, they are still on the front foot in this conflict.
Israel is probably the best defended state bordering Russian troops
As an aside, I do wonder what NATO and it’s members see as a realistic end game, from their perspective? Easy to say Russian withdrawal, Russian defeat, etc. But at this stage:
- Without NATO military intervention, surely Ukraine ultimately gets defeated? Even if it takes a long while. Is it realistic that arming Ukraine alone along with sanctions is sufficient to defeat the invasion?
- Assuming the above and happy to be corrected if not a fair assumption, I guess the west is by definition for Ukraine to be lost? Even if the assumption is false, the west must consider it an acceptable trade off to avoid a full scale war, to let Ukrainian cities get turned to rubble and it’s people suffer greatly?
- Or do we think they are aiming for something more seismic I.e changing Russia as we know it by destroying the economy and / or seeing Putin removed?
I ask because it’s all good we are throwing arms to Ukraine and sanctions on Russia, but it surely (at least I hope) can’t purely be to give Ukraine a fighting chance and see Russian forces removed? It’s one thing to accept not getting involved with military to avoid escalating to a full scale war, but it’s another to think the end game is ok at simply Russia withdrawing from Ukraine? There must be more then that. It can’t be that Russia withdraws and we carry on as normal. Surely this can’t go unpunished and whilst we won’t ever invade (obviously), the objective here has to be fundamental change in Russia?
- Without NATO military intervention, surely Ukraine ultimately gets defeated? Even if it takes a long while. Is it realistic that arming Ukraine alone along with sanctions is sufficient to defeat the invasion?
- Assuming the above and happy to be corrected if not a fair assumption, I guess the west is by definition for Ukraine to be lost? Even if the assumption is false, the west must consider it an acceptable trade off to avoid a full scale war, to let Ukrainian cities get turned to rubble and it’s people suffer greatly?
- Or do we think they are aiming for something more seismic I.e changing Russia as we know it by destroying the economy and / or seeing Putin removed?
I ask because it’s all good we are throwing arms to Ukraine and sanctions on Russia, but it surely (at least I hope) can’t purely be to give Ukraine a fighting chance and see Russian forces removed? It’s one thing to accept not getting involved with military to avoid escalating to a full scale war, but it’s another to think the end game is ok at simply Russia withdrawing from Ukraine? There must be more then that. It can’t be that Russia withdraws and we carry on as normal. Surely this can’t go unpunished and whilst we won’t ever invade (obviously), the objective here has to be fundamental change in Russia?
agree
Didn't Israel vote to condemn Russia in the UN the other day?
I understand that.
But surely its a case of NATO shooting at Russia just not pulling the trigger themselves? In which case it's already a shooting war?
Making the man work on his Sabbath only to waste his time
All about the optics. Russia knows it. We know it. But not enough for Putin to escalate. It’s semantics but semantics make a big difference at this level of tension.
Unless a NATO military shoots at Russia, sinks a ship, etc. then its still Russia/Ukraine
Very good point actually.
Totally agree with this. The Russian army has been shown up to be tin pot. Their saving grace is that they have nukes... Otherwise America would have been in to wipe the floor with them already. I honestly think if they went to launch a nuke it would turn out to be like a damp firework... Prob get about 5 foot off the ground. Obviously the worry is that no matter how shite we think they are..... It only take 1 nuclear sub off the east coast of the US and it's game over
So did Germany and France, Putin still spoke to Scholz and Macron
I take those points. But that doesn't necessarily mean that they want a hostile Russia on their border, or an Assad regime whose military is rebuilt by Russia (I am leaving the long term impact of sanctions to one side).
What was the outcome of the downed Romanian jet couple of days ago in the Black sea?
The cynic in me thinks, everyone and their dog knows Russia is gonna win, they also know they can't get involved so we (the West) are fine with exploiting this. Its a case where the only viable course of action is to weaken Russia financially,
There is no way they are expecting Russia to overthrow Putin, maybe to slowly change their culture over time but this war is not gonna change Russia in the short term.
So imho option B above.
If this war is anything to get by ...
I think Israel are pretty fine. They have comfortably the strongest Air Force in that region, probably the strongest (or second strongest after Turkey) army, and have enough nukes to obliterate any country nearby.
Bad weather, most likely.
It was more the whole doing it in secret thing that was the issue as far as I was concerned.
Thoughts on Russia's lack of cyber warfare? Still yet to come?
Poor little lamb.
Israel would wreck them in a conventional fight
No. Shooting at someone with weapons made elsewhere doesn’t make elsewhere a belligerent.
I doubt the regime in Israel cares about Zelensky or sees him as a "real jew" at all. Actually, I think I remember reading that Zelensky resisted Trump's pressure to move their embassy to Jerusalem back in 2020.
I guess Putin invited Bennett in order to use the visit and project the image that he is not isolated. And Bennett had to oblige. It is all about your own interests and making sure that Putin (who controls Syria) understands you're sitting this one out and not his enemy.
Bad weather and an old MIG. Then a heli flew to the rescue to find it, crashed and 6 people died.
Apparently just an accident. If you like wild theories you can assume that they just tried everything they have if it still works in case they need it.
Israel can easily eliminate the Russian forces in Syria. Israel has a modern air force comparable to any advanced NATO country.
Hey dude, you probably answered this question before, but how hard is it for a Russian to find global news? And I have another question - have prices for ordinary household things gone up?
What if they are supplied by that person's.
I suppose that's what I'm having a hard time with, distinguishing the line between being actively aggressive and being defensive as NATO want to be.
I'd say supplying weapons in the open is aggressive, but hopefully Putin doesn't!
But I have had some good answers to my questions from various on here, so that's much appreciated.
I have no idea. I live in California, haha.
Apart from the financial hit to the currency, I don't think anything has changed dramatically yet. But as soon as the SWIFT ban hits most things are expected to start getting scarce and expensive.