Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

Do you really think this will stop at Ukraine, the mad man will continue until he is dead.
If implementing a no fly zone over a country which is not theres starts a nuclear war then anything will.

At this point I think NATO will let Sweden, Norway and Finland go down. Ok then as long as you don’t take Germany, UK or France.

Norway is part of NATO what are you talking about? The current head of NATO is an ex-Norwegian prime minister for heavens sake :lol::lol:
 
Norway is part of NATO what are you talking about? The current head of NATO is an ex-Norwegian prime minister for heavens sake :lol::lol:
He knew that already apparently, which makes his statement make zero sense. The alternative is that he didn't know that, but that would require him to admit that he was wrong.
 
You're right. We should all just rip our shirts off, grab a mini gun and invade Moscow. It has the double benefit of starting a nuclear war right away instead of just waiting for it to happen, plus none of us will look like cowards.

I never said invade moscow.
 
Norway is part of NATO what are you talking about? The current head of NATO is an ex-Norwegian prime minister for heavens sake :lol::lol:

Erm you think that NATO would do
Something if Norway got
Invaded.

They would probably say ok take
Norway just don’t go further please :lol:.
 
Norway is part of NATO what are you talking about? The current head of NATO is an ex-Norwegian prime minister for heavens sake :lol::lol:

I believe that his point was more about NATO being useless unless you are one of the big countries.
 
I never said invade moscow.
Might as well get it out of the way though, right? Since we're going to enforce a no fly zone, fly aircraft directly into the warzone, and poke the bear - kicking off a nuclear war. We wouldn't want to be seen as cowards, after all.
 
Erm you think that NATO would do
Something if Norway got
Invaded.

They would probably say ok take
Norway just don’t go further please :lol:.
Of course they would. Do you know how NATO works?
 
The last few days seem to suggest Putin is desperately attempting to create something he sell as a win to domestic audiences - forcing Zelenskyy to give up Donbas plus the land bridge to Crimea via Mariupol would seem the leading candidates, along with ruining most Ukrainian cities in the process.
 
I never said invade moscow.

So you're proposing we don't even try to topple Putin? we just use Ukraine as the battle ground until one side say's they've had enough or fires a nuke? Cool
 
I believe that his point was more about NATO being useless unless you are one of the big countries.

NATO is useless unless you are a member of NATO. Which is how it should be.

Not in Poland or Estonia's interests if NATO brings war to their doorsteps to protect a non-member.
 
China are evil but Putin is literally happy to be firmly portrayed as a genocidal killer in front of the whole world.

People might say he's cold and calculating but this is pure evil to use people like that. I wonder what would happen if his daughter was kicked out from Western Europe to Ukraine. Maybe then he'll find humanity when his dearist is in danger.

Disgusting, just disgusting.
 
cnut. Not even funny

Im seriously not being funny, I’m deadly serious, Russia carries on until
It gets to Germany, Italy, France, Spain, UK.

Putin will push and push, NATO will roll back and back, they will test and test.
 
Im seriously not being funny, I’m deadly serious, Russia carries on until
It gets to Germany, Italy, France, Spain, UK.

Putin will push and push, NATO will roll back and back, they will test and test.
Literally nothing of that will happen
 
Some of the photographs coming out of Mariupol are so powerful. No, the woman on the stretcher unbelievably is not dead.

 
Erm you think that NATO would do
Something if Norway got
Invaded.

They would probably say ok take
Norway just don’t go further please :lol:.

You may be right if it was a country like Germany but a country like the US suffers from a ton of war optimism (much of the time misguided IMO) and bloodlust. Much of the population likes to shoot first and ask questions later as you have seen over the years. Even if NATO doesn't show up, the US probably would (especially if any American soldiers posted in eastern Europe die in a first strike) and UK would tag along. Those are the key elements of a NATO military force anyways so the effect would be the same.
 
I see a no fly zone being implemented soon over uncontested land in Ukraine Ie the west side and NATO needs to
Hold that right now, need to
Show strength now or
Nordics will fall I feel.
 
Amateur playing war games? What the feck are you on about you moron? He’s just desperate by all means as his country is being bombed by the cnut who actually plays war games here. He’s just trying to put pressure on the west, he might not get the noflyzone but instead it may result in getting more weapons or sanctions on Russia.

I am sorry you can't express your thoughts coherently without insults. I am sure it makes you more correct. The fact he thought the west would rescue him with was a miscalculation. He should have been able to feel the geopolitical climate and negotiated at least a independent Ukraine if he gets to keep his territorial integrity. He didn't budge and give Russia the option to meet him halfway. If you can't discuss maturely no need to quote me.
 
The last few days seem to suggest Putin is desperately attempting to create something he sell as a win to domestic audiences - forcing Zelenskyy to give up Donbas plus the land bridge to Crimea via Mariupol would seem the leading candidates, along with ruining most Ukrainian cities in the process.
It's not Fake news is it again pal. Watched a bunker in Ukraine on loose women today. Secret bunker. While some clod was inspecting damp in my home while working from home still..

Just stop with anymore big bomb stuff dude. Scared the life out of my cats.
 
You may be right if it was a country like Germany but a country like the US suffers from a ton of war optimism (much of the time misguided IMO) and bloodlust. Much of the population likes to shoot first and ask questions later as you have seen over the years. Even if NATO doesn't show up, the US probably would (especially if any American soldiers posted in eastern Europe die in a first strike) and UK would tag along. Those are the key elements of a NATO military force anyways so the effect would be the same.

This is my point if we are being ultra defensive then why would the big 5/6 NATO countries risk all out war if Norway goes down?
 
It's not Fake news is it again pal. Watched a bunker in Ukraine on loose women today. Secret bunker. While some clod was inspecting damp in my home while working from home still..

Just stop with anymore big bomb stuff dude. Scared the life out of my cats.
You're such a weirdo :lol:
 
Im seriously not being funny, I’m deadly serious, Russia carries on until
It gets to Germany, Italy, France, Spain, UK.

Putin will push and push, NATO will roll back and back, they will test and test.

No chance. He has no business and chance of success in current NATO countries, and he knows it.
 
It's not Fake news is it again pal. Watched a bunker in Ukraine on loose women today. Secret bunker. While some clod was inspecting damp in my home while working from home still..

Just stop with anymore big bomb stuff dude. Scared the life out of my cats.
What’s incorrect with what he said? That’s exactly what the Russians are trying to do.
 
Thread about the mines the Russians laid along evacuation corridors for Ukrainian civilians:

 
Seven days ago I was a lot more mixed on NFZ and the West doing anything that could be seen as escalation. The scenes we are now seeing and the briefing from Russia’s Foreign Ministry on chemical weapons feels like another level of escalation from Russia.

The chance of the West just standing by and watching Ukraine style this out without catastrophic losses (as if they aren’t already) just feels minimal. If Ukraine completely falls, that will be whole new problem and will lead the international projects of the West into feeling impotent in their mission regardless. There’s a good chance we will get drawn in or will choose to intervene at some point, so why delay the inevitable? I increasingly side with people like Kasparov.
 
Insulting another member
I am sorry you can't express your thoughts coherently without insults. I am sure it makes you more correct. The fact he thought the west would rescue him with was a miscalculation. He should have been able to feel the geopolitical climate and negotiated at least a independent Ukraine if he gets to keep his territorial integrity. He didn't budge and give Russia the option to meet him halfway. If you can't discuss maturely no need to quote me.
Morally bankrupt aren’t you? Talking pseudo smart rubbish doesn’t make you smart either. Didn’t want to engage just wanted to call you a cnut that’s all.
 
No chance. He has no business and chance of success in current NATO countries, and he knows it.

No chance is very optimistic, he views the west as incredibly weak and he will test and test.

The guy has gone against his holy grail of not letting the economy slide. I wish you’re right.
 
I never said invade moscow.

No, just have NATO go shoot down their planes. It would be a massive escalation by the west. Now just two countries are in direct conflict but apparently you really want it to be a world war. Putin knows he steps into a NATO country all hell will break loose and when that happens God help us all.
 
Every time Zelensky requests a no fly zone I just see an amateur playing war games. Nato was obviously never going to intervene in direct confrontation.
Or he's desperate for the bombing of civilians to stop.