Mauricio Amadaeus Pochettino | Chelsea sack watch

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I don't like Poch or want him to be our next manager, but I wouldn't put the blame on him for last night, the backline collectively shat themselves, Peredes sub really hurt them but he was on a yellow, Gueye came on and had an absolute stinker, Verratti was almost isolated and no one around him was able to keep any sort of possession. Modric should've been brought down at the half line when he tore into their half. Can't read much into the AdM and Draxler sub because by that time they were already behind.
It was a total disaster and there's not a lot that you can do as a manager when all your players panic at the same time.
 
goptun said:
Mourinho pushed out of Chelsea. United hire him. Ole pushed/ushered out of Cardiff. United hire him. Poch shoved out of PSG. United don't hire him and go for his bald, Dutch mate in Amsterdam..?
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To be fair Poch doesn’t want to be there. He still lives in a Parisian without his family.
 
I just dont get why this guy is so highly rated - would take Ten Haag over him any day. Much more exciting
 
goptun said:
Mourinho pushed out of Chelsea. United hire him. Ole pushed/ushered out of Cardiff. United hire him. Poch shoved out of PSG. United don't hire him and go for his bald, Dutch mate in Amsterdam..?
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I think there’s a fair point in here. All of our managers either seem to be at the wrong spot on the curve or patently unqualified. Ignoring the last few years Pochettino has had, even if you accept there may be reasons for that, would be foolish. We may well choose to ultimately make him manager but I’d want us to be completely satisfied that the manager from those early years at Spurs would be the one we’re getting, not the current version who just looks a little battle weary and lost.
 
Ayush_reddevil said:
Well Pochettino is almost certainly going to be the next United manager so I would suggest you look for a different team for a while
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Would be so us, employing a manager who prob been sacked from the last 2 clubs he been at, he going to deliver us to the promised land.

Sacked from spurs as well who had a better 11 than us, after winning nothing.


Can just see how this is going to pan out
 
That Jason Burt article does say that last night ‘may’ count against MP.
 
ti vu said:
Your post read that way to me.

To ignore the fact PSG already made CL final, your focus is to hammering home the ultimate point about PSG as a bottling club. Poch in your word only has issue when thing gets tough, where he failed to adapt to the situation and make change. Ignoring that PSG has been under similar situation plenty of time under Poch this season.
So PSG only dominate other teams during their good period in the game because Poch's coaching? Nothing to do with their players' quality?
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You keep making up things that I've apparently said. I never said Poch only has issues when things get tough, so putting it bold won't change that.

PSG lost the final, Poch lost the final. People gladly say Poch bottled his final, so couldn't you say the same for PSG? For the record, I don't say that. Losing a game isn't bottling.

And for the rest, I literally only commentated on last night's game. Nothing about the rest of the season, nothing about how PSG have played this season in general. Think you need to relax a bit to be honest.
 
V.O. said:
Fair play to you for sticking around to lick Poch's balls when they're as dry as they're going to get. Don't think we'll see @Amadaeus until August.
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PSG play the mighty Bordeaux at home on Sunday. My bet is that he'll be back in here crowing about Pochettino if they scrap their way to a win in that one.
 
Ayush_reddevil said:
I can understand people not wanting Poch but the number of people who want ETH despite him having not achieved a lot either is pretty amusing
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Its amusing for you because you don't understand why most want him here. People are tired watching us play on the counter for god knows how many years. People want an attractive brand of football, they want to see a system where players dont look like knobheads and they dont want to see utd camped in their own half against teams that are good with the ball. ETH is one of those managers that can setup his team to play that way.

We might not win anything for a few years but if we atleast start playing good football and maintain a little bit of consistency, it will definitely be seen as progress in the right direction.
 
ayushreddevil9 said:
Its amusing for you because you don't understand why most want him here. People are tired watching us play on the counter for god knows how many years. People want an attractive brand of football, they want to see a system where players dont look like knobheads and they dont want to see utd camped in their own half against teams that are good with the ball. ETH is one of those managers that can setup his team to play that way.

We might not win anything for a few years but if we atleast start playing good football and maintain a little bit of consistency, it will definitely be seen as progress in the right direction.
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You speaking to yourself? :D

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ayushreddevil9 said:
Its amusing for you because you don't understand why most want him here. People are tired watching us play on the counter for god knows how many years. People want an attractive brand of football, they want to see a system where players dont look like knobheads and they dont want to see utd camped in their own half against teams that are good with the ball. ETH is one of those managers that can setup his team to play that way.

We might not win anything for a few years but if we atleast start playing good football and maintain a little bit of consistency, it will definitely be seen as progress in the right direction.
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Agreed. The club needs a full football reboot and instilling a clear football structure, a proper one not the nice guy act from Ole. I think ETH is far more likely to buy into that. Plus Poch's struggles at PGS, even acknowledging the challenges at that club, dont fill one with confidence.
 
The board must be aware of how badly this appointment will go down, they keep close tabs on fan opinion. It's a near certainty now, he's not here yet and I already know it will be another failed appointment.
 
MUFC OK said:
The board must be aware of how badly this appointment will go down, they keep close tabs on fan opinion. It's a near certainty now, he's not here yet and I already know it will be another failed appointment.
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Close tabs on fan opinion? What about opinions on McFred?
 
Let's be fair, he's a good manager, no doubt that but he just doesn't have what it takes to go the final yards and win things. We've seen him bottle the big occasions since he was at Tottenham, and agreed, he's done well to get there but when he does he's a fish out of water. PSG were all over the shop last night, the defence well and truly shit the bed and he did nothing to try and stop the situation. Being a defender himself you would have thought he would have known what to say or do to stop the collapse from happening, but he just watched it unfold.
 
I’ve said this before and I’ll keep saying it because it will always be true – Pochettino is not a winner, never was and never will be. He is a mid-table manager. And a serial bottler. He is the definition of the term. Another Brendan Rodgers. That’s it. There is very little that is impressive about him. I genuinely can't understand what people see in him.

There is little doubt in my mind the idiots in charge of this club will use this opportunity to save money and appoint Pochettino in the coming weeks after his inevitable sacking. A proper fit for our club – a useless puppet. I’m finished with football for good if this clown is given the job. My hatred for the Glazer scum is almost palpable and I can’t be bothered to deal with It for another 5-10-however-many-years it takes for this plague to leave Manchester United.
 
Zoo said:
To be fair Poch doesn’t want to be there. He still lives in a Parisian without his family.
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He moved out of the hotel about 3 months ago. He lives with his family, including a son (who plays for Watford ??) in the 8th district of Paris... He was at the hotel for a long time because he couldn't find a house that suits the whole family. But it is true that both his wife and his son still need to be in London a lot.
 
At least the prospect of having to pay a release clause is gone now. More money for the transfer kitty or daddy Glazer's lap dance fund.
 
The way they folded last night when put under pressure via the press was astonishing to watch really. It was like watching us which just makes me think that Poch wouldn't be able to train our players to be press resistant, which you need to be in this era of football.

When Real got it to 1-1 then 2-1 and Poch stood in the technical area was also a big red flag (and no, not a United red flag!). Our next manager needs to have flexibility in his tactics, be proactive in his substitutions and know how to swing the game back in his teams favour.

It was a very poor performance from PSG as a whole last night between the manager and players.
 
They should win the French league regardless of who the manager is.

In the CL his style will never work for them, he wants a lot of running, a lot of pressing and a lot of extra effort from everyone. If you have players up top that are unwilling to do it like Neymar and Mbappe and players that aren't capable like Messi.

Then you either need to change personnel, which he would never be allowed do.

Or change approach, which he's never really been capable off either.
 
I'm so glad the game went like it did last night. Even the dimmest of Utd board member will have been able to see the similarities between us and that team, especially how both sides performed in their last games.

I just need to believe we're not going to do the silly thing. Because as times goes by, the argument for Poch gets weaker and weaker, in truth, it has for many years at this point.
 
I just want someone who's actually excited about the challenge rather than scared of failure. Play some youngsters, try to attack, get rid of players if you don't think they have the right mindset, but above all bring in young ones who do have it. It's a simple plan but difficult to execute. I actually think United next year is going to be a massive opportunity for a manager to impress without too much pressure if they approach the challenge in the right way.

Genuine talent in the youth team, some excellent players available on free transfers or relatively cheap, mass clear out of the first team squad, as much by accident as by design but that doesn't matter to someone new. Probably going to have the Conference League or some other shite to test new players out in...dream job for someone with vision.
 
I don’t see the difference between Poch’s style of football and Ole-ball when we were playing well under him. It’s only effective when all the pieces align or individual brilliance.
I know many love Poch but if we are to be serious about trying something different and having a real reset from the last few managers then Poch is definitely not our man.
 
Unpopular opinion but I still don't mind Poch. He is a good manager and this PSG team is uncoachable. Give him time and I reckon we will be good.
 
Poch coming feels a bit inevitable to me. Sort of like the way a 'Mourinho era' felt inevitable.

Not to say I think it will go well. I don't, but even if we get Ten Hag I'll probably continue to think Poch will manage us one day.
 
Still people wanting Poch ? :rolleyes: My head explodes reading this. He is the most overrated piss manager out there. Never won anything decent, and was sacked by Tottenham and soon PSG. Crap record against good teams as well. No charisma or a man of authority either. I prefer Moyes over him ,and that says it all.

The only reason United wants him is that he is another yes man who might scrape a few more top fours
 
Appointing Poch this summer would be the final straw - it would confirm the club literally has no ambition beyond challenging for fourth.

He fits the profile for us though like Van Gaal and Mourinho, had his best spell half a decade ago or even longer and is available for free...

That said beyond us appointing Klopp or Guardiola which, let's face it, is never going to happen you have to wonder if any managerial talent can deal with the circus?
 
He honestly should not have gone to PSG, feels like the only job that's more of a poisoned chalice than our own. The way his management style is looking back at Southampton and Tottenham etc absolutely does not fit into how PSG run as a club. It's a complete circus with all the players indulged and allowed to go over the managers head, players who don't want to run, only want to do their own thing. Biggest load of mercenaries ever, did Poch really think he was going to implement his way on this team? Ill advised, he should have waited for a job more suited to his talents. Hopefully we don't hire him because i'd much much prefer Ten Hag, a lot of people will disagree with me i'm sure, but I don't believe his time at PSG is a fair reflection on his abilities as a manager
 
You can take the man out of spurs....


But seriously, i don't think he's fit for the sort of big club United seems to see themselves as. This is a guy who actually needs total control. Who needs for the organization to send a clear message down to the players that it's his way or the highway. He's struggling with a team of superstars and even at spurs his downfall was a direct consequence of their success boosting egos to a point his now-household name players began to chafe under his methods
 
Talk sport suggesting he could be sacked at any moment today.

If he is, I really hope United don't go for him for this reason.

Ten Hag is probably the best choice for us and we should be patient. This club has proven all its decisions in the last 10 years have all be poorly thought out and reactionary from desperation and poor business and football modelling.
 
choccy77 said:
Talk sport suggesting he could be sacked at any moment today.

If he is, I really hope United don't go for him for this reason.

Ten Hag is probably the best choice for us and we should be patient. This club has proven all its decisions in the last 10 years have all be poorly thought out and reactionary from desperation and poor business and football modelling.
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I would hope there'd be a phonecall to Ten Hag to ensure he has any actual interest in joining us this summer.

We'd look pretty silly if we waited for him, only to appoint Poch anyway in July after he turns us down.

If I was him, I'd be running a mile from this United job.
 
diarm said:
I would hope there'd be a phonecall to Ten Hag to ensure he has any actual interest in joining us this summer.

We'd look pretty silly if we waited for him, only to appoint Poch anyway in July after he turns us down.

If I was him, I'd be running a mile from this United job.
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Well I hope United have already had discussions with Hag by now.

Biggest issue is, the club need somone now, already working actively on transfers and squad planning, that actually knows what they are doing well before season starts.
 
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