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Anyway, IIRC the strategy of singularizing Putin (and not Russian) as the enemy has more to do with A) Causing unrest/divission in Russia and B) Maximizing the possibility that the war ends soon, hopefully with Russian voluntarily dropping out under a new regime.
That was my view as well.
Yeah, its not like they're only changing tyres and doing oil changes on the nice equipment. Plus I doubt there is a championship level 'air force', it wouldn't makes sense to not use your best planes and pilots, and they still don't have air dominance. They're just inept
Technically yes, but functionally all opposition is of the loyal opposition variety. The communists sometimes make their independence known, but by and large even they support Putin's agenda wholeheartedly. The real opposition hasn't been allowed to participate for a while.
Of course, it's nothing like the likes of North Korea, which laughably also technically has several parties, and elections. Without Putin it's possible Russia's democracy could be resurrected. Maybe.
Looking at their armored capability. I doubt they really had enough of the Premier League stuff to do the job anyway. While they have about 500 T-80’s in active duty and several thousand in reserve, they don’t want to use them because of how poorly they performed in Chechnya. They’ve got around 500-600 T-90s, some of which are in Ukraine, but they don’t want to fully commit those because then they’re stripping any units facing NATO borders of their best tanks, as the T-14 Armata hasn’t been produced in sufficient numbers to be combat ready yet.
That leaves them with the tried and true T-72s, which they have thousands upon thousands of, and which is the bulk of the armor you’re seeing in Ukraine.
This CNN investigation on the bombing of the pediatric hospital in Mariupol is impressive. It has 2D and 3D mapping details of what happened and where videos were taken in the immediate aftermath. It's even more shocking when you put all pieces together.
When I see the long line of Kremlin mouthpieces spouting their shit time and time again after seeing that investigation, I swear that those deplorables (Nebenzya, Lavrov, Shulgin) all deserve to be lined up on their knees and then receive you-know-what as proper punishment when this will be over.
When I see the long line of Kremlin mouthpieces spouting their shit time and time again after seeing that investigation, I swear that those deplorables (Nebenzya, Lavrov, Shulgin) all deserve to be lined up on their knees and then receive you-know-what as proper punishment when this will be over.
Iraqi republican guard tank crews send their best wishes.
Oh trust me, I’m not saying it’s the tank you want to be in on a battlefield in 2022, but it’s the one they’ve got.
Haha, yeah I know you didn't mean it in that sense. I just wanted to say something about the T-72's history.
Yeah the T-72 hasn’t aged well... which has been apparent for awhile, as you point out. The little cages they’ve put on the top of the turret to stop the javelin missiles hasn’t aged well either.
I guess it's all about the level care a country gives to its military hardware so it can still deliver. I don't expect much from Russia when it comes to their hardware, but the Japanese would have been kicking ass in those old F-4EJ Phantoms if they had to defend their homeland a few years ago before those jets were officially retired from service. Former and currently serving US Air Force personnel have said great things about how the JASDF took care of the Phantoms.
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I'll correct that statement for them: Moscow Stock Exchange to resume tanking on Monday.
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It's not exactly been a secret that conservatives and populist in the West have been doing Russia's bidding, has it?
How useful are tanks in this day and age anyway?
Yes, no secret. They whinge about the "tyranny" of mask-wearing and vaccination, but lap up the brutal tyranny of Putin's absolutist gangster-state.
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Tanks have been called to be obsolete since their invention. The question isn't if tanks are useful, as the basic concept (protection for the crew, high mobility and massive firepower) will be attractive any time. That said a tank that's designed for massive tank battles like the T-72 isn't suited for urban warfare and similar engagements. The T-14 with its "Afganit" hard-kill systems against incoming missiles etc would perform much much better. But luckily the Russians aren't able to mass produce them (partially due to it relying on components from Italy and France that they can't get after the first sanctions 2014).
For a little view how those work: (Arena is actually the precursor to Afganit)
It would be much harder for all the RPG, Panzerfaust, Javelin, NLAW to destroy a tank with such a system. The most modern designs of all important tanks feature such systems or at least could be equipped with it (Leopard, Merkava, Abrams...)
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Already posted no doubt, but damn that was powerful. 29 million views already.
I was thinking more about lead, but I guess dropping a golden shower on them would be perfect humiliation since we go on that ground.
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Depends how many of those 29 million are in Russia though and how many of those aren't just youngsters that can be easily quashed by the masses as just 'dumb kids'.
It’s like morbid fascination now….how low will it really go
Russia is flying 70s era planes so I don’t see a problem really.
And the pure existence of active S-300 systems might be a reason why we still haven't seen any reports (except I missed them) of Russia using its strategic bombers. No attacks with Tu-160 or Tu-95, as those are exactly the kind of high flying planes that S-300 would target and destroy in a wide area. The Russian air force is still only flying low-altitude missions to prevent long range radar detection, as they still didn't manage to get rid of all Ukrainian air defense systems. Hopefully it stays this way, as otherwise the option of carpet bombings would exist for Russia.
Some American firms have been making a killing already over the last few weeks.
Tbh I don’t know why anyone would want to be in a tank in 2022 at all. If I can’t be in the artillery (where I served) or airforce, then I’d much… much rather be an infrantry man than in the cavalry.
Missile technology has outpaced armour technology. You’re just a target for jets, helis, other tanks, ATGMs, IEDs… you name it. You’re a target full stop. I’d prefer to be away from the front lines if I can, but if I’m there I’d rather be unseen than be big feck off target everyone can see and hear from afar.
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Feels like the Ruble has held up OK so far? I expected it to tank a lot further.
Would you rather be holding a line / punching through a line with them or without them?
I think the answer to that is still “with”.
Yeah me too, but then I didn't realize it's down a lot since the Crimea invasion. Down 75% in the last 10 years or so.
Sanctions beginning to bite
It just seems like you quickly end up a sitting duck with what modern infantry appears to be carrying.
I know feck all about it though.