Rashford considering his future...

It's werid how Rashford gets the mental issues defense yet Martial last season wasn't getting any at all.
Why does every slump of form these days have to be a mental issue? Have footballers become complete pussies? You play in front of 50k-60k people every week and you're telling me it's a mental issue when a player drops in form as badly as Rashford has?
 
GifLord said:
It's werid how Rashford gets the mental issues defense yet Martial last season wasn't getting any at all.
Why does every slump of form these days have to be a mental issue? Have footballers become complete pussies? You play in front of 50k-60k people every week and you're telling me it's a mental issue when a player drops in form as badly as Rashford has?
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Maybe Lukaku had mental issue too, when he became that fat and disinterested after WC?
 
Cassidy said:
Its not different. Its an example of Journalists making things up. Like the fact he had all these children by different women.
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Yes.. I meant different tactic/way of trying to get under his skin and undermine his character and turn the public against.

Like i said I think they need to be held accountable, not saying this about Rashford particularly, but only each individual knows how it affects them personally and who knows if one day one player in the future might find it too much. Then with hindsight people will start saying “but but but they’ve been doing this a long time sooner or later it was bound to happen why weren’t they held accountable sooner when players were first speaking out about it”.

Before what I am saying gets twisted, I’m not talking about professional criticism. I’m strictly talking about the sensationalist lies, embellishments, or whatever you want to call it about players personal lives and characters that plays on some of the public’s general “dislike” for young multi millionaire footballers.
 
Interestingly he wrote a long essay about his charity work and defending him from the recent incident
 
If it's not an article paid for by his army of PR guys then I'd still say the journalist is doing him no favours. People involved with and wanting to help him seem to lack any awareness of the issues that supporters have with him. Personally I don't rate him that highly as a player, but if he's to turn it around then everybody around him needs to shut up and he needs to a) start looking like he's trying his hardest every game and, ultimately b) start performing. That's all there is to it.

Personally, I think we can find a better player for what we pay him.
 
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We desperately need to get rid of him, not just for the leaks and briefs, but for the cult that follows him. That doesn't mean people who think he's talented, or who like him...but people who write nonsense like this about a fan having the audacity to say 'after that performance, come on guys' to a hyper-privileged athlete.

The abuse that Marcus Rashford received from fans this week was shocking.
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For a little while, Rashford ignored what was being shouted at him and then something was said that made him stop abruptly and turn towards his tormentor
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It was soon after that that the camera captured him gesturing at one of the fans. He raised his hand and appeared to raise a finger in his direction, to beckon him towards him.
‘Come over and say it to my face?’ Rashford said. And in that moment, even though what he did was close to nothing, the ‘fan’ who had baited him had won. He got the reaction he craved.
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He issued an apology on social media but, as Ian Wright and others have said subsequently, he didn’t need to. The fan who abused him should have apologised instead. He is the one who should have the spotlight trained on him. Not Rashford.
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Sick and tired of it. Far far better players don't come with all this ass kissing and pr horseshit.
 
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Bought and fecking paid for.

Sports journalists are pay per word even more than games journos.

"He was defrocked by a moron calling him names."

The 'moron' calling him names: "Come on lads after that performance....?"
 
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This dumb. Rashford was a world class talent who despite multiple seasons experience in the top league hasn't been able to make the jump to an actual world class player and in fact has regressed. He hasn't been able to properly address his weakness. For this he has no one else to blame but himself.
He's in the same position as Martial but Martial ain't getting the sympathy articles from the British Media because he isn't British.
The club shouldn't make player decision on sentimentality only footballing ability. And based on footballing ability he's expendable.
We need 200 mill + to properly rebuild the club. I don't see Glazers okaying that much net spend with no UCL. So a decent amount of money need to be raised through player sales. And Rashford and Bruno are the only 2 players who are potentially expendable who would fetch a huge fee. Sancho is the only other player but he's not for sale under any circumstance. So UTD get a big offer for either of them, we have to let them go.
Liverpool sold Coutinho for 150 mil and we able to use those funds to build a CL winning team. UTD need to take same approach. Forget about winning league next season. Clear the deck and wage structure. Invest in young elite talent, bring a coach who can work with talent and look to win in 2 or 3 years. And if costs you Rashford or Bruno so be it. I am not saying just sell either regardless. It will all depend on the offer. If its a significant amount sell and reinvest,.
 
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This dumb. Rashford was a world class talent who despite multiple seasons experience in the top league hasn't been able to make the jump to an actual world class player and in fact has regressed. He hasn't been able to properly address his weakness. For this he has no one else to blame but himself.
He's in the same position as Martial but Martial ain't getting the sympathy articles from the British Media because he isn't British.
The club shouldn't make player decision on sentimentality only footballing ability. And based on footballing ability he's expendable.
We need 200 mill + to properly rebuild the club. I don't see Glazers okaying that much net spend with no UCL. So a decent amount of money need to be raised through player sales. And Rashford and Bruno are the only 2 players who are potentially expendable who would fetch a huge fee. Sancho is the only other player but he's not for sale under any circumstance. So UTD get a big offer for either of them, we have to let them go.
Liverpool sold Coutinho for 150 mil and we able to use those funds to build a CL winning team. UTD need to take same approach. Forget about winning league next season. Clear the deck and wage structure. Invest in young elite talent, bring a coach who can work with talent and look to win in 2 or 3 years. And if costs you Rashford or Bruno so be it. I am not saying just sell either regardless. It will all depend on the offer. If its a significant amount sell and reinvest,.
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This should get a like.
 
oreon said:
This dumb. Rashford was a world class talent who despite multiple seasons experience in the top league hasn't been able to make the jump to an actual world class player and in fact has regressed. He hasn't been able to properly address his weakness. For this he has no one else to blame but himself.
He's in the same position as Martial but Martial ain't getting the sympathy articles from the British Media because he isn't British.
The club shouldn't make player decision on sentimentality only footballing ability. And based on footballing ability he's expendable.
We need 200 mill + to properly rebuild the club. I don't see Glazers okaying that much net spend with no UCL. So a decent amount of money need to be raised through player sales. And Rashford and Bruno are the only 2 players who are potentially expendable who would fetch a huge fee. Sancho is the only other player but he's not for sale under any circumstance. So UTD get a big offer for either of them, we have to let them go.
Liverpool sold Coutinho for 150 mil and we able to use those funds to build a CL winning team. UTD need to take same approach. Forget about winning league next season. Clear the deck and wage structure. Invest in young elite talent, bring a coach who can work with talent and look to win in 2 or 3 years. And if costs you Rashford or Bruno so be it. I am not saying just sell either regardless. It will all depend on the offer. If its a significant amount sell and reinvest,.
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Excellent post
 
What else can the club do to support Rashford? We've gone wa beyond supporting him, towards pandering territory and now he's a pampered baby who thinks he's bigger than the club.

His cronies in the media are obviously doing some work on his behalf, just hope the clubs realise the fans are starting to see through his facade.
 
Martial'sEmergingSmile said:
We desperately need to get rid of him, not just for the leaks and briefs, but for the cult that follows him. That doesn't mean people who think he's talented, or who like him...but people who write nonsense like this about a fan having the audacity to say 'after that performance, come on guys' to a hyper-privileged athlete.
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Those quotes are from another reality. I'd say the article must be paid for, but there were several people in this thread spinning just the same yarn.

I think cult is probably the right word.
 
V.O. said:
Those quotes are from another reality. I'd say the article must be paid for, but there were several people in this thread spinning just the same yarn.

I think cult is probably the right word.
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The perfect word.
 
What came first, the clickbait headline or the article that doesn’t back it up?
 
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Anyone suffering from mental health issues should be afforded some leeway, yes. But as far as I am aware, it's only Rashford who is struggling in that department. According to reports, he's been seeing a psychologist, has spent days in bed at a time, mopes around the pitch, makes subtle hints that he isn't himself via blogs/Twitter etc. He hasn't been right since the Euros.

I don't know how much of that is true as everything I know about Rashford has come from less than reliable media outlets. Either way, I feel he has earned the benefit of the doubt for his charity work alone, not to mention we all know how dangerous a player he can be when on top form.

Would it be so devastating to the club to give him the summer to work with the new manager to rediscover his best form? I don't think it would, personally.
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Has this actually been reported? Genuinely asking because it’s worrying if so.
 
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We desperately need to get rid of him, not just for the leaks and briefs, but for the cult that follows him. That doesn't mean people who think he's talented, or who like him...but people who write nonsense like this about a fan having the audacity to say 'after that performance, come on guys' to a hyper-privileged athlete.
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Agreed.
 
Martial'sEmergingSmile said:
We desperately need to get rid of him, not just for the leaks and briefs, but for the cult that follows him. That doesn't mean people who think he's talented, or who like him...but people who write nonsense like this about a fan having the audacity to say 'after that performance, come on guys' to a hyper-privileged athlete.
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The third one down is the best, it’s penned in the style of a paragraph taken from a hard hitting fable of justice like Of Mice and Men.

Think we can even make it more dramatic.

‘Come over and say it to my face!’ Rashford said, a slight quiver in his voice as he mustered the courage to confront his nameless, shrouded oppressor. At once a clap of thunder resounded around the car park. His nemesis threw back his head in delight, emitting a gleeful, tormenting cackle into the emptiness of night, in full knowledge of the mortal blow his wicked deeds had dealt. Our hero surveilled the gathered braying mob, pale deathly hands with autograph books held aloft, jeering, demanding signatures for their devil children, to be signed in his own blood’.
 
The odd thing is that Rashford is in no position to dictate anything - his talent and performances are vastly lower than his profile suggests.

Lost his England place, should he desperate to stay at United, practically begging the fans to give him a chance…the whole ‘feeling sorry for him’ narrative is woefully misjudged IMO.
 
The links to Arsenal and Liverpool at the end of the article. This piece must be through his PR, and as if he’d get anywhere near Liverpool‘s starting line-up.
 
I read the title as Rangnick considering his future for a second and got worried.

Rashford? Who cares. It would be different if he was working even harder than before, but it's like he's given up instead. I look at Elanga and see how Rashford was exactly like that too before his fame. But his attitide now couldn't be any further from that. So zero sympathy from me.
 
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I would gladly stake my life that Oliver Holt hasn't bothered to watch a single match of Rashford this season.

Marginalised? Rashford's had soft treatment. After the performances he's put in, he doesn't even deserve the minutes he's currently getting.

'Worst mistake this decade' is a ludicrous take. :lol:
 
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He’s never been a world class talent. His technique just isn’t up to snuff. It is baffling the following he has because it just isn’t remotely rooted in reality.

That said we (the club) have ruined any chance he had of even being a squad player by treating him like he’d made it before he’d accomplished anything of note.
 
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We need a cultural reboot.
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It should start from our academy. Watch our academy graduates in the recent years. Januzaj, James Wilson, Rashford, Pogba, Lingard, Greenwood, Pereira, Brandon Williams, Chong they are all not type of "stay low profile and work hard" type of players.
McTominay and Elanga (so far) are just rare cases.
 
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It should start from our academy. Watch our academy graduates in the recent years. Januzaj, James Wilson, Rashford, Pogba, Lingard, Greenwood, Pereira, Brandon Williams, Chong they are all not type of "stay low profile and work hard" type of players.
McTominay and Elanga (so far) are just rare cases.
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Wait a minute, a player has to be low profile for what reason? All of those players work hard except current Rashford , Januzaj and Wilson. Even then, Wilson I think had injury issues.

There's a lot of projection there. Who cares if a player is low profile? What the hell does that prove?
 
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