Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

Are they bloody serious? That has to be totally illegal.

In a fascist gangster-state the law is whatever the dictator/mafia boss says it is on any given day.

Like Trump said of his followers: "'I could shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters"
 
cnuts. feck them. Putin deserves to get his dick bitten off by an orca
[Breaking news music] In an unprecedented move that may be viewed as Nato escalation (but more probably emasculation) by the Russians, the Biden administration has agreed to deploy special forces operative Lorena Bobbitt to the Kremlin. In the midst of a multitude of sanctions that are forcing everyday Russians to make cuts to their way of life, Agent Bobbitt has been sent to make a few cuts of her own. Putin may think he is all big and bad with his hypersonic missile, but the US has taken steps to ensure that he is cut down to size. We will update this story as further details emerge. At this point, we can only wonder if Agent Bobbitt will leave anything standing in her wake. Now for the weather report, and it is a little brisk in Siberia these days....I'll get my coat...
 
[Breaking news music] In an unprecedented move that may be viewed as Nato escalation (but more probably emasculation) by the Russians, the Biden administration has agreed to deploy special forces operative Lorena Bobbitt to the Kremlin. In the midst of a multitude of sanctions that are forcing everyday Russians to make cuts to their way of life, Agent Bobbitt has been sent to make a few cuts of her own. Putin may think he is all big and bad with his hypersonic missile, but the US has taken steps to ensure that he is cut down to size. We will update this story as further details emerge. At this point, we can only wonder if Agent Bobbitt will leave anything standing in her wake. Now for the weather report, and it is a little brisk in Siberia these days....I'll get my coat...

:lol: Go Agent
 
[Breaking news music] In an unprecedented move that may be viewed as Nato escalation (but more probably emasculation) by the Russians, the Biden administration has agreed to deploy special forces operative Lorena Bobbitt to the Kremlin. In the midst of a multitude of sanctions that are forcing everyday Russians to make cuts to their way of life, Agent Bobbitt has been sent to make a few cuts of her own. Putin may think he is all big and bad with his hypersonic missile, but the US has taken steps to ensure that he is cut down to size. We will update this story as further details emerge. At this point, we can only wonder if Agent Bobbitt will leave anything standing in her wake. Now for the weather report, and it is a little brisk in Siberia these days....I'll get my coat...
Still can't believe they found her husband's penis on the freeway where she threw it and they put it back on.

Sorry I'll take this to the Geopolitics thread don't mean to derail...
 
Are they bloody serious? That has to be totally illegal.

It is, but it's perfectly consistent with historical Russian/Soviet strategy. They forcibly removed all of the Tatars in Crimea to Siberia During WWII and moved lots of Russians there, which is why it's much more pro-Russian than it used to be.
 

Russia has lost the Ukraine for many generations to come, no matter what’s the outcome. Russians are completely different people mentality wise nowadays compared to even ethnic Russians living in Ukraine. I’ve been saying this from the start but ordinary Russians are as much to blame by enabling the war, fascist regime, and Ukrainian genocide. This brotherly nation bs can finally be put to bed.
 
I’ve been saying this from the start but ordinary Russians are as much to blame by enabling the war, fascist regime, and Ukrainian genocide. This brotherly nation bs can finally be put to bed.

What are the ordinary Russians supposed to do? Their elections are rigged, their opposition parties and voices are completely silenced.

Could you make a similar case and hold all the average US and UK citizens responsible for the instability in the Middle East and Afghanistan? Despite being democratic nations, people of these countries couldn’t do anything to stop their military from bombing these other nations. What/how do you expect citizens of an autocratic country to influence their regime?
 
The military reality says otherwise. Russia does not have enough troops to even encircle the vast perimeter of Kyiv, far less take a city where, in an urban environment, the general rule is that attackers will die at six times the rate of of defenders.
Really?
 
Interesting the US canned it- I guess it has to be so multipurpose to be effective. The cost of these things must be prohibitive for mass rollout across thousands of infantry too you'd imagine too.
Battery technology isn't there yet. We desperately need better batteries in this world, not the least of which to store green energy to make it viable.
 
What are the ordinary Russians supposed to do? Their elections are rigged, their opposition parties and voices are completely silenced.

Could you make a similar case and hold all the average US and UK citizens responsible for the instability in the Middle East and Afghanistan? Despite being democratic nations, people of these countries couldn’t do anything to stop their military from bombing these other nations. What/how do you expect citizens of an autocratic country to influence their regime?

For 20 years Putin has been murdering the opposition. And yet, people were voting for him and he was very popular. He always had a large following and I would bet that, TODAY, the majority of Russians believe that "Putin knows what he is doing". The Russians are responsible for Putin.

(Sure, if he loses or if he is killed, most Russians will say that they never supported him. The same way that after WW2 few Germans said that they supported Hitler.)
 
Any possibility that Putin will lose Belorusia and his cronies there? I think that this war is not very popular with Belarusian people.


"Belarusian railway workers have reportedly cut off all rail connections between their country and Ukraine.

Ukrainian railway chief Olexander Kamyshin thanked Belarusian railway workers for this claimed act of sabotage on Saturday."

https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/othe...tedly-cut-connections-live-updates/ar-AAVh3Ar
 
What are the ordinary Russians supposed to do? Their elections are rigged, their opposition parties and voices are completely silenced.

Could you make a similar case and hold all the average US and UK citizens responsible for the instability in the Middle East and Afghanistan? Despite being democratic nations, people of these countries couldn’t do anything to stop their military from bombing these other nations. What/how do you expect citizens of an autocratic country to influence their regime?
Like not going to a fecking fascist gathering in a football stadium just for a day off or a threat of losing your job? That’s the mentality I’m talking about. They might not be actively supporting it but they’re totally OK with it and doing feck all. For example, despite Belarus being an active member in this war due to Lukashenko, literally, everyone inside their country is held hostage (by Putin essentially as Lukashenko falls the minute he steps down) and are against the regime and the war but that’s not the case in Russia, majority of them support it even.
 
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Battery technology isn't there yet. We desperately need better batteries in this world, not the least of which to store green energy to make it viable.
That makes a lot of sense- the battery pack required would probably weigh a tonne and component prices have been soaring.

Like not going to a fecking fascist gathering in a football stadium just for a day off or a threat of losing your job? That’s the mentality I’m talking about. They might not be actively supporting it but they’re totally OK with it and doing feck all. For example, despite Belarus being an active member in this war due to Lukashenko, literally, everyone inside their country is held hostage and are against the regime and the war but that’s not the case in Russia, majority of them support it even.
I'm wary of judging from afar. We have no idea what duress, explicit or otherwise, people were under, plus losing your job might not mean much to you, but could mean young children starving to others.
 
That makes a lot of sense- the battery pack required would probably weigh a tonne and component prices have been soaring.


I'm wary of judging from afar. We have no idea what duress, explicit or otherwise, people were under, plus losing your job might not mean much to you, but could mean young children starving to others.
Not from afar, I had quite a few Russian friends/relatives and since the war they turned full on nazis on my Facebook feed just parroting their TV propaganda. My native language is Russian and I can really feel the sentiment around this on social media platforms at least and believe me it’s not looking good at all.
 
How‘s the Daily Star for credibility?



In case that's a genuine question from a non UK resident, the Daily Star is basically a parody. It's the lowest tier if reliability of all, lots of spoof stories. The attempts at real journalism that it does make tend to be sensationalist, highly embellished and deeply untrue.
 
Any possibility that Putin will lose Belorusia and his cronies there? I think that this war is not very popular with Belarusian people.


"Belarusian railway workers have reportedly cut off all rail connections between their country and Ukraine.

Ukrainian railway chief Olexander Kamyshin thanked Belarusian railway workers for this claimed act of sabotage on Saturday."

https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/othe...tedly-cut-connections-live-updates/ar-AAVh3Ar
Belarus people are a lost cause for Putin since 2020, majority in Belarus are anti-Russian now due to Putin’s support shown to Lukashenko. Russian OMON has been part of the brutal events in Minsk back in 2020 too.
 
Not from afar, I had quite a few Russian friends/relatives and since the war they turned full on nazis on my Facebook feed just parroting their TV propaganda. My native language is Russian and I can really feel the sentiment around this on social media platforms at least and believe me it’s not looking good at all.
Seconded.
 
A country with allegedly 1300 warplanes including gen 5 stealth jets, has failed to dominate the airspace against a country with 37 MiG-29s and 32 Su-27s. And that's despite the defenders having no long-range/high-altitude SAM missiles like S-400 or Patriot. Their air defences are literally low altitude MANPADS.

They will write books of this level of failure.

Great post.
 
It is, but it's perfectly consistent with historical Russian/Soviet strategy. They forcibly removed all of the Tatars in Crimea to Siberia During WWII and moved lots of Russians there, which is why it's much more pro-Russian than it used to be.
My wife’s grandparents were moved all over the Soviet Union for “work”.
 
I reject that argument. What do you think Russia would be doing now to former Soviet countries that hadn't joined? They would either be under threat or destabilised because Putin is an expansionist dictator. Putin is and always has been the problem, not NATO.
Yeah im not entirely convinced by my own argument to be honest. I think part of the argument is that it could potentially have done a better job to turn Russia towards being a legitimate democracy but i dont really see how NATO is that relevant or an obstacle to it.
 
Yeah im not entirely convinced by my own argument to be honest. I think part of the argument is that it could potentially have done a better job to turn Russia towards being a legitimate democracy but i dont really see how NATO is that relevant or an obstacle to it.
The argument could be.

NATO’s expansion is used by Putin to gather people in solidarity against the “western enemy”. Thus solidifying his own grip on power and crushing democracy aspiration in the process.
 
Hypothetically, if Putin was somehow assassinated, would the war suddenly end? Or would they just put the next guy in the driving seat and carry on where he left?
 
These industrial sites, factories and plants that are being attacked by missiles. Surely you would want them available to you to use once youve taken control if that was the aim. Doesn't seem like it is, Putin just wants to obliterate Ukraine.
 


Although not about the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the lyrics nonetheless are completely relevant.
Putin is the Zombie. Still clinging onto the Cold War trying to recreate the former and failed Soviet Union.
I challenge anyone to listen to the words and not be moved.
 


Has someone by any chance stumbled upon a translated version of this, or an article that gives an idea how reliable this poll is?