F1 2022 Season

where has the Spa rumor come from, found this from December.


Is Spa being changed?


As part of an upgrade that is aimed at improving safety, and homologating the circuit for motorbikes, a major revamp is underway. The construction work, which began on November 15, is set to cost the venue around 80 million Euros, but should help secure its long term future for top categories including F1

Tracks for bikes usually have much larger run offs. For example, there's zero chance Moto GP race on existing spa with how Eau Rouge is because the barriers are too close to the track. Especially on exit of the right hand part of the section.
 
Spa will get renewed, they have spent a fortune on improving track safety recently. Its an iconic circuit that is part of f1 history. The renewal should hopefully be a multi year deal and i guess will be done and dusted before this years f1 gp at spa.

Rather they got rid of monaco.
 
why race on a crumbly old belgian track where only historic human rights violations may have occurred when you could be racing on a brand new arabian super track with a shit layout but breath-taking hospitality facilities? have you tried the hospitality in belgium? you can really tell the waiters are being paid to be there rather than forced to be there. my cock doesn’t twinge for happy workers.
 
Spa is one of my fav race tracks. Would love to go there someday. It wont get dropped anytime soon. I'd rather add a race in Germany than added Las Vegas or Miami. 23 race is already too much i think, now i've seen report they want to expand to 25. :wenger:
 
F1 does the same thing over and over... Threatens tracks that they will be dropped until they take down their trousers and accept the rise and new contract imposed upon them. How many times has Silverstone been in the same position?!
 
Spa will get renewed, they have spent a fortune on improving track safety recently. Its an iconic circuit that is part of f1 history. The renewal should hopefully be a multi year deal and i guess will be done and dusted before this years f1 gp at spa.

Rather they got rid of monaco.
I don't much like Monaco either (although having one street circuit is cool, and then rather Monaco than one of the new ones), but if we're talking about an 'iconic circuit that is part of F1 history', I'd expect Spa to disappear before Monaco...
 
Spa will get renewed, they have spent a fortune on improving track safety recently. Its an iconic circuit that is part of f1 history. The renewal should hopefully be a multi year deal and i guess will be done and dusted before this years f1 gp at spa.

Rather they got rid of monaco.

Will never happen, Monaco is F1, it is the blue ribbon race of the season.
Steeped in history, home track for many F1 drivers.
Part of The Triple Crown of Motorsport.
I agree the track is poor and most races are not that good , but there is to much history and yes money involved to be dropped.
 
Will never happen, Monaco is F1, it is the blue ribbon race of the season.
Steeped in history, home track for many F1 drivers.
Part of The Triple Crown of Motorsport.
I agree the track is poor and most races are not that good , but there is to much history and yes money involved to be dropped.
Could F1 just not pay ferrari extra money for being ferrari and use the cash to buy some land / buildings around the track and redevelop to improve some corners with overtaking opportunities?
 
Could F1 just not pay ferrari extra money for being ferrari and use the cash to buy some land / buildings around the track and redevelop to improve some corners with overtaking opportunities?
There are plans for the principality to reclaim some land from the sea right where the corner is to the tunnel. No idea how much land or if it would be enough to help change the track slightly, but even if that happened, im sure there would be many voices of influence wanting it to stay in its current, not fit for modern day f1 layout.

I totally get its historic value, its just that its so bloody boring to watch. I think personally its the one race of the season where they should have to do 2 mandatory pitstops and run all three tyre compounds for that race weekend. Anything to add some edge to a snoozefest of a race.
 
sad if it is, I like it, the mighty Eau Rouge, one of motor racing's most famous pieces of asphalt.
Seen some cracking races, seen some bad, lets forget about 2021!!
Also the scene of some horrendous crashes, 1998 being one of the worst and the W series crash last year.
How nobody was killed is sheer luck

I love Spa. Would be a big historic loss.

Why would they drop it?
 
I love Spa. Would be a big historic loss.

Why would they drop it?
They won’t.

Once they sort the walls around Raidillon (and to a lesser extent Eau Rouge) to prevent cars being spat back onto the track in the case of a crash it should be fine.

We did Spa in 2019 when Hubert was tragically killed; the place is incredible and a must visit for any fan who is able to do the trip, but the safety changes are definitely overdue and won’t impact the circuit itself.
 
I dont think Spa will be dropped , to be honest I have no idea where this started.
A few tweeks here and there, which they are doing or have already been done , will improve safety.

Looks like Seb could miss this week Saudi GP , he is still to give a negative COVID test as yet, not sure what Saudi entry rules are.
 
I dont think Spa will be dropped , to be honest I have no idea where this started.
A few tweeks here and there, which they are doing or have already been done , will improve safety.

Looks like Seb could miss this week Saudi GP , he is still to give a negative COVID test as yet, not sure what Saudi entry rules are.
With the Aston looking like a back marker it's not really a big deal anyway. Probably better to let Seb recover and give the Hulk another go.

The Jeddah track really isn't one you want to be driving at less than 100% either.
 
With the Aston looking like a back marker it's not really a big deal anyway. Probably better to let Seb recover and give the Hulk another go.

The Jeddah track really isn't one you want to be driving at less than 100% either.
my thoughts also, still to be giving positive test, it must have taken it out of him.
Eevn is clear, might be better to get him fit for Australia 10th April.
 
With the Aston looking like a back marker it's not really a big deal anyway. Probably better to let Seb recover and give the Hulk another go.

The Jeddah track really isn't one you want to be driving at less than 100% either.
I wouldn't write them off yet. Their chief designer said that the car on track is completely different to the one in the wind tunnel. Once they resolve the porposing issues they can try to get the wind tunnel car and track to correlate. They think the car has alot of potential.
 
I wouldn't write them off yet. Their chief designer said that the car on track is completely different to the one in the wind tunnel. Once they resolve the porposing issues they can try to get the wind tunnel car and track to correlate. They think the car has alot of potential.
I took that to imply they had a big aero upgrade package they were working on that would come in a few GPs (presumably when they get to Europe) - not that they expected much more from Jeddah
 
Was it the Jeddah track that had several safety car moments last year?
 
i was wondering how being champion would effect verstappen. for some, reaching the top of the mountain just means you’ve got to reach the top of the next one again. for others, once you reach the summit it’s all downhill from there. i was eager to see whether verstappen would be a hamilton or a rosberg. not even finishing in the top 10 of his first race as champion kind of confirms that already. at least moyes finished 7th.


Good one, genuinely laughed.

Couldn't post more but brilliant points for Mercedes. But all in all, what a season for Ferrari this could turn out to be.
 
It'll be a mess this weekend as well. It's a pretty hard core track... All the barriers of Monaco etc but the average lap speed is higher. I know you have to have bravery to drive at F1 speeds anyway but it's one of those tracks where you can go off at nearly 200mph and you literally have nowhere to run off into.
 
It'll be a mess this weekend as well. It's a pretty hard core track... All the barriers of Monaco etc but the average lap speed is higher. I know you have to have bravery to drive at F1 speeds anyway but it's one of those tracks where you can go off at nearly 200mph and you literally have nowhere to run off into.
especially with new cars some of which are not that consistent with downforce - tyres warmed up to less heat than before
I wonder if we might even see a lower running team deliberately underfuel on the basis that they expect to loose say 20 laps of full power racing?
could put somebody massivley up the field is they made a good call on that (though of course they could also run out of fuel close to the end as well)
 
Apparently Mercedes have trimmed their rear wing
not by much.
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I took that to imply they had a big aero upgrade package they were working on that would come in a few GPs (presumably when they get to Europe) - not that they expected much more from Jeddah
You are correct, i didnt mean jeddah.
 
AlphaTauri says Pierre Gasly's failure in last Sunday's Bahrain Grand Prix was "instantaneous" and is suspected to have caused by a battery issue.

Gasly was running among the top-ten at Sakhir with 13 laps to go when his car suddenly shut down and a fire igniting at the back of the AT03 as it came to a halt at the side of the track, which triggered the race's late safety car period.

"I literally had zero warning, which is very strange," Gasly said, quoted by Motorsport.com.

AlphaTauri technical director Jody Egginton confirmed the sudden nature of the issue.

"It was an instantaneous failure, a total power loss electrically," said the British engineer. "At the moment it’s potentially related to the battery, we don't know exactly.

"So we're still investigating. We've got to find the fault first, but one scenario is that we have to change a power unit element.

"One minute the car was running, and then it was off, total failure. We lost power immediately, the car stopped and we had a fire.

"The source of the fire could be things that were very hot not being cooled properly. We've had a look at it, there's a lot of superficial damage."

https://f1i.com/news/435868-alphata...c47SRykSqR1W3IFA1cWz542_wneEBMBfiSlkSykGoq2WU
 
Seb still got Covid, that sucks.

Though I guess the silver lining is AM ain't gonna be anywhere near the points this weekend either.
 
I wouldn't write them off yet. Their chief designer said that the car on track is completely different to the one in the wind tunnel. Once they resolve the porposing issues they can try to get the wind tunnel car and track to correlate. They think the car has alot of potential.
While they might sort it by Australia it's fairly certain it won't be any better this weekend.

I think by the time we get to Aus a few teams will be looking a bit sharper.