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Mauricio Amadaeus Pochettino | Chelsea sack watch
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Consistently shite, your posts are terrible.Why do I want recognition from people on this forum? If you checked my post history, I have been right moreso than I have been wrong when I got in an argument on here. Heck, people seem to have short memories because the same people who didn't take my post seriously when I stated that Ole wasn't the right manager are the same people who still doesn't take my post seriously. I am not bothered by that, which is why I have always remained consistent.
The performance regardless of the team level is still impressive and if you believe they are a level below championship side, then you must not watch the play as much.
Yea, psg has been consistent that is why they are walking the league and before the lost to rennes they had the longest win record of any top club this season. Moreover, I don't believe psg has lost at home yet this season. Can you verify that for a team that isn't consistent? They even manage to beat Manchester city at home as well.
I Have him on ignore for some reason. Whatever it was I'm confident it was the right decision
I dispute the bolded part!Why do I want recognition from people on this forum? If you checked my post history, I have been right moreso than I have been wrong when I got in an argument on here. Heck, people seem to have short memories because the same people who didn't take my post seriously when I stated that Ole wasn't the right manager are the same people who still doesn't take my post seriously. I am not bothered by that, which is why I have always remained consistent.
The performance regardless of the team level is still impressive and if you believe they are a level below championship side, then you must not watch the play as much.
Yea, psg has been consistent that is why they are walking the league and before the lost to rennes they had the longest win record of any top club this season. Moreover, I don't believe psg has lost at home yet this season. Can you verify that for a team that isn't consistent
Pretty sure that wouldn't hold up in a courtroom
Especially when there's tangible evidence to prove otherwise!
Think you are quite recognised tbf.
Ok prove it. I know you just love to wind me up because no one else has replied to my post more than you in the past couple of months, but I don't mind entertaining it just to see you perform some mental gymnastics.I dispute the bolded part!
Pretty sure that wouldn't hold up in a courtroom
Especially when there's tangible evidence to prove otherwise!
Regardless, i am surprised you are still so confident after backing Ole so much, even though I knew before hand that he wasn't the right manager. That is an argument for another time and I m pretty sure a lot of poch haters on here are just trying to derail his accomplishments yet offer no logical argument that points to other managers doing significantly better.
Heck, even when poch got knocked out of the Champions League, that wasn't even that bad compared to how our other managerial candidate did. E.g., ETH losing to the underdog and not walking their league, Ralf ragnick failing at United and not getting us top four, Conte poor start at spurs and level on point with a weaker squad in Arsenal in fourth despite being favorite, and tuchel recently loosing to brenford 4-1 and underperforming in the league.
I only have to go back to a post from the other day - something about Villa spending more during Pochs tenure time than Poch did at Spurs, this is false by the tune of circa £100m.
No 'mental gymnastics' needed there squire!
There's countless more similar throughout this thread.
It's funny how you consistently go on about how context needs to be taken into consideration when Poch and his 'accomplishments' are concerned, yet fail to deliver any context yourself when mentioning Ten Hag (ETH's transfer spending over his WHOLE tenure, thats 5 years at Ajax is less that of Benfica's last THREE transfer windows, yet Ajax were the underdogs), or Conte (picking up the pieces from Jose who failed to pick up the pieces of the rubble left by Poch!) Conte at least appears to be on the right track.
After your clarity at seeing Poch as a failure (again, Poch's own words), I feel you are running on fumes with this now, probably time to put it to bed for everyone's sakes I reckon.
There’s a tiny part of me that wants Pochettino to come here and inevitably fail just to put this Amadaeus fellas Poch agenda to bed once and for all.
You're feeling generous today geebs.
Still my number 1 pick. I like Ten Hag but there's too many unknowns for me mainly the fact he's only managed in the Dutch league which is a really poor league outside of maybe 2-3 teams.
I like what Poch did at Spurs and whilst he's not exactly knocking down tree's at PSG (what manager has though? Tuchel was sacked and won the CL months later) he had the league won in November and it was a freak result against Real Madrid to go out the CL they dominated both legs.
Poch for me.
I like what Poch did at Spurs and whilst he's not exactly knocking down tree's at PSG (what manager has though? Tuchel was sacked and won the CL months later) he had the league won in November and it was a freak result against Real Madrid to go out the CL they dominated both legs.
Poch for me.
All the ex pros have said Poch. There must be something about him that we as fans don’t see.
He doesn't get enough credit on here for his Spurs job. They had literally been in the CL once before he took over and he made them a regular, challenged for a league title and made the CL final all whilst being on a transfer budget well below his rival teams. Just go and look at the Spurs side he inherited when he took over he should have been nowhere near top 4.
His biggest problem is his lack of pedigree to win a big game. During the spurs impressive CL run he could have stuck with the winning team but when Kane was back, he dropped Moura who had an impressive spell falling for media and probably pressure from external elements. If he had stuck with Moura maybe would have won the game and also would have shown he is a strong character. This one incident shows me he is someone waiting to be trashed by our squad with blames on bad trainings and tactics.
I think it’s simply PL experience. I remember a lot of media pundits going in hard on Poch when he first went to Southampton. At the end of the day as I have said before I really liked Poch but this whole *what he did at Spurs* thing is blown well out of proportion.
Redknapp had us on the up prior to his arrival and the vast majority of the players were already there. Most of Poch’s signings for us were utter shite and the time where he was playing the best football was with most of players he had inherited.
To be fair it’s better than pretending they watch Dutch football
If Poch does go to United, I would definitely want him to succeed, and I actually think he probably would succeed to a degree here.
A fans random mumblings on an internet forum is definitely not reason enough to wish a United manager failure
Why do I want recognition from people on this forum? If you checked my post history, I have been right moreso than I have been wrong when I got in an argument on here. Heck, people seem to have short memories because the same people who didn't take my post seriously when I stated that Ole wasn't the right manager are the same people who still doesn't take my post seriously. I am not bothered by that, which is why I have always remained consistent.
The performance regardless of the team level is still impressive and if you believe they are a level below championship side, then you must not watch the play as much.
Yea, psg has been consistent that is why they are walking the league and before the lost to rennes they had the longest win record of any top club this season. Moreover, I don't believe psg has lost at home yet this season. Can you verify that for a team that isn't consistent
If you actually watch the games, PSG have not been consistently good for 2 seasons now under Poch (or one and a half seasons, whatever you want to call it). That is a fact, I'm afraid. You have to look at the overall performances, not just the results. He strikes me as a manager with something missing. He's definitely not elite. Good rather than great.
I agree, This is the point that drifts over a lot of peoples heads it seems.
Spurs were on the rise and playing some decent football before Poch went there, there is no doubt that Poch took that a stage further, but his plaudits are slightly overblown for what he actually achieved.
You could have said the same about Tuchel though, he was underwhelming at PSG and got fired mid season for poor results yet months later wins the CL with Chelsea.
The French league is shite, PSG had it won in November and their squad is full of 'Superstars' who barely give a feck the motivation for them is money that's the only reason they're at PSG in the first place. Fecking Neymar and Messi taking him about 2m a week in wages turning up to play Clermont foot and Reims every week.
They went with the superstar route overpaying players to come in for a quick win they'd do better buying the best young players from around Europe then a coach like Tuchel or Poch would probably be a success for the long term.
He will go in hiding.
Liverpool had a much better side than Spurs regardless of whether Kane or Moura played. And Liverpool got that lucky penalty in the first minute anyway, had nothing to do with the forwards. Very hypothetical situation that they would have won with Moura playing.
It will be hell. Most of us will have him on ignore but the ones that don’t will stink threads out replying to his tired wumming.
People said the same thing about Sir Alex thinking Moyes had what it took to be United manager, that he saw something we didn't. He was wrong.
Same.
I hope we stay well clear, haven't wanted him from the start and don't plan to start now.
Wouldnt have played with 10 men, given Kane was totally out of pace during the game. It makes difference in a big game especially against a pressing team like liverpool. Starting Moura would have given much better chance even with the lucky penalty awarded early in the game.
It's all hindsight isn't it, Liverpool win with Moura starting and everyone would have asked why the hell didn't he pick Harry Kane
Am I the only one who's had to read that a few times to understand what he means? Does he mean that United like the fact Poch is old school? Or is that what's putting them off?
I would suspect it means that if they hired him, how would they fit him in to the new structure that we have with Murtough and Fletcher, ironically if Pochettino actually does want more old school manager responsibilities then ETH actually fits in with our new structure more than he does. If he wants the responsibility of transfers and youth etc where does that leave Murtough and Fletcher essentially, they'd have to find a balance or he just becomes a coach like ETH, though the article seems to say that's not Pochettino's preference
I personally want Ten Hag but you're right Poch doesn't get the credit he deserves on here which is strange. I would understand it if he was the former manager of Liverpool, Arsenal, City but hell Spurs have never really been rivals to us.
Spot on, we all know what a sensible person would have gone with whilst doing a management role. Always select someone who puts in 100% than someone who the manager know can't put in 100% due to not being physically ready. Lost game after a sensible decision doesnt fall on Poch, but lost game after picking a player due to media and external pressure is definitly on Poch.
Poch going for Kane after succumbing to the external pressure and still losing the game is surely on the manager, than other 50-50 factors which the manager didnt have control on. United will have many external pressure elements including our ex players, imagine what it can lead to.
Look at you a spurs fan talking sense
He took over a team that had 21 wins. So unless you think that the previous managers did something miraculous then Spurs were definitely a team near top 4. And I still need people to explain his EL and cups performances because unlike that single good CL run, people seem to not care about cups for some reason.
Did he have Modric? Bale for only one season?
Two massive players for Redknapp so Poch didn't really inherit that team.
Is that was suggested?
Pochettino inherited Kane, Rose, Walker, Dembélé, Eriksen, Vertonghen and Lloris. Which was the backbone of his team, to that Spurs added Alli, Son, Alderweireld and Moura.
There are three important facts about Spurs and Pochettino, he inherited a young and talented team. He is not responsible for the good and bad signings since it wasn't his job. He did a good job with the players at his disposal but it wasn't exceptional or miraculous.
Yeah it was. The poster said he inherited a Redknapp team that was playing well and on the up.
That's partly true but it was Redknapp's team minus Modric and mostly without Bale. Quite a difference for any club but especially one like Spurs.
How many managers in the world have done a miraculous job with their teams? Pep hasn't done a miraculous job anywhere but he's still the best manager in the world. You're only as good as your players and Pochettino did an excellent job at Spurs and is their best manager in the PL era, should be without question. He also did a great job at Southampton. Two jobs in England, two successes.
Well it's true the majority were already at the club under Redknapp but at no point did that poster suggest that Modric and Bale were. So why did you make it a Modric and Bale conversation when the other poster didn't suggest that?
This is how you push an agenda.
Talking about Kane like he was the backbone of the team, yet started 10 PL games the season before Poch came in, scoring 2 PL goals, but he was the backbone.
They finished 6th the season before he took over and went on top improve them per season.
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