That quote isn't commercial though is it cheesy ? Yes but its emotional and sentimental not geared towards selling you more shirts.
Though the whole adult Disneyland pitch has probably been blown out of proportion.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Though the whole adult Disneyland pitch has probably been blown out of proportion.
12:12 onwards is relevant.
Graveyard comment in particular is 14:20
It's disingenuous to suggest that he himself is 'warning Ten Hag' not to take the job.
He's just speaking openly and honestly, and accurately about how tough it will be and how it hard it may be to get the necessary assurances
You can say that a lot of people around this club are moaners and negative etc. but if we're being honest we've never actually came close to looking like a top team or building anything substantial or special in all that time and that's part of the reason the discontent is so high. Finishing second twice while being miles behind City never really felt all that significant, especially as both of those seasons ended with hugely disappointing periods of form and losing cup finals.
I agree with you about the ridiculous pressure coming from ex-players but there's a contradiction there- you say that if it goes wrong nobody blames you- everybody blames you, because to most people (fans, media etc.) you're yet another failed Manchester United manager living in the shadow of Sir Alex Ferguson and the glory years. I mean you only have to mention Ole, Jose or LVG on here and all hell breaks loose on how crap they supposedly all were.
I don’t think he was trying to sell Klopp shirts in fairness, he probably loved his own job (back then) and loved being around OT which lead him to say to both Klopp and LVG that summer that being around Old Trafford is like Disneyland for adults. Meaning it’s a shit load of fun, and an incredible warm and happy place that’s amazing to be around.
It’s incredible how much what likely was a throwaway comment praising the club has been turned into some apparent horror show for the worst sales pitch ever, which it clearly fecking wasn’t because the club and Woodward had no problem getting both LVG and Mourinho to beam from ear to ear about joining.
I mean, as for Klopp, people would do well to remember that “if” the Disneyland comment turned him off so much as the myth makes out, he joined the fecking club and owners that backed this shitshow
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I agree though in all fairness it's kinda of a wacky presentation to give someone who doesn't have the best grasp of English and wants to manage outsideof his country for the first time .
Also I wonder if klop just outright made that shit up himself to endear himself to Liverpool fans, did Woodward confirm it as well?
As I say, Klopp clearly had no problem with cheesy/corny as feck football clubs and owners, else he wouldn’t have joined the ones who backed those fecking Suarez t-shirts.
He was likely swayed by the moneyball sales pitch, and well, the fact that he was, you know, jobless.
It’s all a load of bollocks.
I don’t think he was trying to sell Klopp shirts in fairness, he probably loved his own job (back then) and loved being around OT which lead him to say to both Klopp and LVG that summer that being around Old Trafford is like Disneyland for adults. Meaning it’s a shit load of fun, and an incredible warm and happy place that’s amazing to be around.
It’s incredible how much what likely was a throwaway comment praising the club has been turned into some apparent horror show for the worst sales pitch ever, which it clearly fecking wasn’t because the club and Woodward had no problem getting both LVG and Mourinho to beam from ear to ear about joining.
I mean, as for Klopp, people would do well to remember that “if” the Disneyland comment turned him off so much as the myth makes out, he joined the fecking club and owners that backed this shitshow
It's worse than that, it's about the idea that fans expect to be entertained, that it's part of the club identity. In other word he was talking about Sir Matt Busby idea that United has a duty to entertain the fans.
Whats wrong for a football club to be entertaining? Its a form of entertainment after all so fans can reasonably expect to enjoy the show don't they?
Also we have a long history of explosive exciting football so its in our DNA.
There is nothing wrong about it which makes the criticism worse. It wasn't about money and not about how Woodward felt at United, it was supposed to be about the fans.
Makes sense too.
It certainly wasn’t about money or commercial aspects, which as you say, makes the criticism more the stranger.
Agree.
Why didn't we just wait another year for him rather than press the trigger on LVG
I don't usually mind Neville's criticism of the club as I've always felt it was somewhat level headed, his rants in recent weeks though have been pure toxic and really doesn't help - basically warning ETH not to take the job so we're then left with a second choice manager which in theory means we'll be worse off, he's reached CAF levels of self hate
Yeah he's proper driving the Pochettino stuff
Klopp had a contract until 2018, there was nothing to wait for. He rejected everyone that summer and only left the following season because the season went pretty poorly and he tought that he reached the end of a cycle.
He was supposed to stay at Dortmund till 2018, but their horrendous start to the season made the board and Klopp have talks, in which they both unanimously agreed that they’d terminate the contract at the end of that season.
So Klopp, in never wanting to break contract, no doubt told United and Real that he wasn’t going to be available for a few years.
Liverpool were extremely fortunate, and the rest is history.
God I hate how the scousers timing is so bloody good, they always seem to face teams missing a couple of key players
I'm derailing the thread a bit here but there is no guarantee that klopp would have turned the ship around, we had terrible players even then and I don't think klopp would have done well under such a high pressure.
Nice to think about though.
Nice to think about though.
Klopp arrived mid season in October at Liverpool too - so they didn’t sack Rodgers after losing 6-1 to Stoke and finishing 6th with Klopp available. Had Rodgers started that season well we may very well have been the ones who ended up with him as by the end of December LVGs time was clearly up. Definitely one of those what if moments.
Damn you Brendan for starting that season so crap and handing him to them lot
Great post. No matter how bad it gets, it is still a great job and any available top manager would take it in a heartbeat, and while our football structure is rubbish at the moment, historically we're very supportive of our managers and never interfere. If we offer ETH the job he'll take it, I have no doubt about that.
Exactly. This is what he is trying to do now. If you cannot change the minds of the club, then get ETH to change his mind. I cannot stand the guy anymore. Little toad he is.
Not a single person in here has made that argument.
This part bothers me a lot, they create a circus around the club and player and then complain that there is a circus around the club and players. This is particularly true for Neville and I don't know if he realizes that from a media standpoint he creates the bad mood and tension that affects the fanbase and the club in general.
Yes, because Liverpool were in such great shape when Klopp took them over.
Some people just post drivel without even thinking about it.
I’m assuming Poch must have taken Gary out for a great meal and night out once, hence his considerable mancrush for him to be United manager. 
Like I said, why would he warn off Ten Hag, but not Poch?
Liverpool had a very nice management system put in place , we didn't.
They didn't. They changed the system almost a year after Klopp's appointment.
Good to know , I thought fenway changed the structure immediately as they took over in 2010.
I think subconsciously or otherwise he's trying too hard to prove he's not a biased United fan.
He should just have done a Phil Thompson and nailed his colours to the mast from day one.
Grrrrrrrrr
Bet he's got something to say about Ten Hag.
Bet he's got something to say about Ten Hag.
Cue Neville undermining ETH at every opportunity he gets.
Like I said, because Ten Hag is joining, but Poch isn't.
It will definitely happen. I remember how much stick Pep got when he came in because "his style won't work in the Prem" and he dropped Joe Hart. I recall every goal Bravo conceded being met with "How would Joe Hart have dealt with that". Same thing I see happening every time they pan to Rashford on the bench and we're not winning 3-0 in a game.
Think it’s best to ignore him. Sick of his flip flopping and general hypocrisy now.
To be fair ten Hag lost his battle against pilosity, so how can he be a winner as United's manager?
"I just don't see it with Ten Hog"
Can’t believe they’re not using Rashford. The Manager is only Using this formation to keep him out of the side.
Wait, he actually did say this during the City game
My question concerns the title of this thread.
How many times can the same person be dead to you ??
How many times can the same person be dead to you ??