After watching our last games his legacy is actually growing on me. Impressive what he actually managed to get out of this shitty squad with a dysfunctional system around him and coaching team.
Solskjaer's legacy and his future
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Cultural reset has left us in as bad a shape as I have ever seen.
Its seems he was working magic with this lot.
The drop off in effort and giving a shit has been insane.
The drop off in effort and giving a shit has been insane.
That's still the most embarrassing moment of the season and this team lost 9-0 to Liverpool on aggregate.
ETH is not going to keep these shit players Ole signed or gave new contracts.
Ole signed or gave new contracts to 10 of the 13 players we saw tonight.
Ole had no say in the new contracts. Can you imagine if he wanted to get rid of Rasford,Pogba,Shaw,Lindelof etc.
Well bring me a lucky captain ..I would say Ole is unlucky..he missed a trophy after De Gea missed the 11th penalty
We also won against Paris twice , win against City away a few times .. Chelsea HOME and away.. arsenal away.
We were 37 games unbeaten away in the league .. we scored 9 goals ..
It just unraveled this season .. but he is definitely better than Ralf
He will have to keep a load of them. The Glazers wont get rid of them. These are the owners who want to keep Pogba for marketing reasons FFS.
Guy will never manage in the Pl again.
Some said he would after his sacking
Some said he would after his sacking
He finished ahead of that same Liverpool team in the league just last season.
They're not all shit though, look at the first goal. A defensive line all over the place. That's not just individuals, that's bad coaching and organisation. 9-10 players are already going to leave and don't be surprised if some of the ones that stay look better in a structured system.
He got rid of Fellaini, Lukaku, Sanchez and Smalling in his 1st few months and the middle two cost the club a lot.
Of course he did. He didn't negotiate the wages but he is a huge part of the reason these players were kept on.
We know he had a direct impact in Jones getting a new deal, entirely out of pity and a shared sympathy over knee injuries.
And Ole was brought in originally to pander to Pogba and Martial. Martial and Rashford were offered sickening contracts because Ole planned on building his side around them.
There's no way Mata and Matic would have been offered contract extensions without Ole at least indicating they had a part in his squad going forward.
He also lied to Lingard to get him to stay rather than sell him last summer.
Yes, but like other managers probably had no or little say in the renewals. The problem is that this club is run by businessmen, who see the players like assets, rather than their performance. It's the only way to explain handing out contracts to the old boys like candy.
A total and utter fraud.
They all wanted to leave.
just like the players he bought for us, a fraud as a manager of Manchester United
"we're building something here"
"footballs not all about tactics its about desire and second balls"
Just a couple of my favourites.
"footballs not all about tactics its about desire and second balls"
Just a couple of my favourites.
Ralf couldn't get any of his players to show that tonight bar a 19 year old kid who came on for a 5 minute cameo.
before few years, we thought " "I think we've played a very good side and it's the sort of standard and level we need to try and aspire to get ourselves to at this moment in time. I think we need to play better" was how the standards dropped.
Thats because most of them are out the door in the summer.
Imagine being a permanent manager for over 3 years, building said culture and getting players in of your own, before getting your pants pulled down worse.
This is 100% Ole’s mess. Anyone blaming Ralf is delusional. It’s like a learner driver crashing his dad’s Ferrari and blaming it all on the mechanic who comes to fix it.
Moyes was sacked 4 months after that. He didn't spend £400m while trying to downplay the ambition of winning trophies as hallmark of success.
He brought in 5 players for big money. All have been rubbish bar Bruno but he is certainly going that way.
What's the excuse for the other 15+ players in the squad?
That's true.
Nothing could explain the Bailly contract or negotiating new ones to Rashford and Shaw, these are definitely not footballing decisions.
A culture where egos are fostered and tactical discipline is ignored. Thought thats obvious.
He also signed off on dumbass extensions, like Bailly.
Christ, when has beating psg ever won us a trophy. Bring back Jose because he beat a ronaldo juve.
This is players mess. Not manager.
And if you want to use that analogy. Both mechanic and previous driver saw to late that Ferrari is actually old Ford Fiesta.
He missed out on a trophy after he kept Rashford on for 120 minutes while he was hobbling around with 15 separate injuries. He missed out on a trophy after Villarreal made 5 subs by extra time while we waited until the 100th minute to make the first one.He didnt. That's down to the Glazers.
He did. He's consulted on it heavily.
Yeah it was time for him to go. We have still got worse since. I was guaranteed a pressing coach would improve this 'title winning squad'. Now due to the embarrassment of that prediction the squad needs to be talked down in every sentence posted on here
Just give up, this is Ole's squad. He used this squads fighting spirit, and character and cultural reboot as an excuse for not winning silverware less than an year ago. That was his whole shtick, so if you're trying to pin the blame on the players, then it's shared by Ole given he's the one who fostered this squad and their egos.
Ole set this club back for years, and he's the worst manager we've had this century. £400m and 3 years wasted where we progress nowhere, and now we face another rebuild. This is Ole's legacy, no amount of mental gymnastics for you is going to change that.
Worst manager we had in the last decade. Knew how to get romantic football fans on his side. Imposter
And the fans are partly to blame why he got hired in the first place. A few good results and fans deluded themselves and spent all the time chanting for him to be given the full time job.
Maybe the fanbase should shut up about what kind of manager is getting hired.
This is what Ole left us in after 4 years of shite. Worst manager ever. He didn't rebuild shit. He ruined us and set us back for years. Worst manager ever and worst decision our club ever made, both by making him permanent and by backing him for so fecking long. Complete waste of so many years. Disaster.
In principle I agree, I voiced Ole out a lot during his time here, he was tactically inept and vocally full of rubbish. Saying that, the true demon of the club and the single person who set us back more years and has wasted 10 years is that weasel Ed Woodward.
Just give up, this is Ole's squad. He used this squads fighting spirit, and character and cultural reboot as an excuse for not winning silverware less than an year ago. That was his whole shtick, so if you're trying to pin the blame on the players, then it's shared by Ole given he's the one who fostered this squad and their egos.
Ole set this club back for years, and he's the worst manager we've had this century. £400m and 3 years wasted where we progress nowhere, and now we face another rebuild. This is Ole's legacy, no amount of mental gymnastics for you is going to change that.
List of players bought by Ole:
1. Daniel James - £15m
2. Harry Maguire - £80m
3. Aaron Wan-Bissaka - £50m
4. Bruno Fernandes - £50m
5. Donny van-de-Beek - £40m
6. Alex Telles - £16m
7. Facundo Pellistri - £10m
8. Amad Diallo - £40m
9. Edinson Cavani - Free
10. Jadon Sancho - £80m
11. Raphael Varane - £40m
12. Cristiano Ronaldo - £15m
Total - £436 million.
List of players offered new contracts under Ole:
1. Anthony Martial (January 2019) - Until 2024 on £250,000 a week.
2. Phil Jones (February 2019) - Until 2023 on £80,000 a week.
3. Ashley Young (February 2019) - Until 2021 on £120,000 a week.
4. Juan Mata (June 2019) - Until 2021 on £160,000 a week.
5. Marcus Rashford (July 2019) - Until 2023 on £200,000 a week.
6. Andreas Pereira (July 2019) - Until 2023 on £75,000 a week.
7. Axel Tuanzebe (July 2019) - Until 2023 on £40,000 a week.
8. Victor Lindelof (September 2019) - Until 2024 on £120,000 a week.
9. Tahith Chong (March 2020) - Until 2020 on £30,000 a week.
10. Scott McTominay (May 2020) - Until 2025 on £70,000 a week.
11. Odion Ighalo (June 2020) - Until 2021 on £140,000 a week.
12. Brandon Williams (July 2020) - Until 2024 on £40,000 a week.
13. Nemanja Matic (July 2020) - Until 2023 on £120,000 a week.
14. Dean Henderson (July 2020) - Until 2026 on £120,000 a week.
15. Mason Greenwood (February 2021) - Until 2026 on £75,000 a week.
16. Eric Bailly (April 2021) - Until 2025 on £80,000 a week.
17. Juan Mata (June 2021) - Until 2022 on £160,000 a week.
18. Lee Grant (July 2021) - Until 2022 on £30,000 a week.
19. Tom Heaton (July 2021) - Until 2023 on £60,000 a week.
20. Edinson Cavani (July 2021) - Until 2022 on £210,000 a week.
I'm missing few players too. Ole wasted a lot of money not only in transfer fee but even moreso while handing contract extensions like candy, that too on super wages. Stop pretending this is not his squad, it's completely of his own making.
Did we really pay 40 million for Amad? If so it is utter madness.
Terrible managerial options don’t help. He has compounded the poor decisions of the club and made the situation much, much worse. There is no escaping that.