OR PIT BOTH. Are you being deliberately obtuse? Either they felt they could win - if so they had to leave both out. They had zero chance to win thus they had to pit both. The option they took - to pit only Russell should not have been an option. It meant zero chance of the win and left Hamilton out there to dry.No one is arguing ffsThe only strategy was to pit for new softs. You said there was other calls, there wasn't.
Leaving both out and trying to win was never an option which is the point I was contending. The only option was to pit both. Mercedes didn't go this and only went with one call, and the results speak.
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That's fair, if it was that late there's not much Mercedes could have done (apart from make the decision for him)
Russell hasn’t actually beaten Hamilton on pace since Lewis stopped fecking about with setups but he’s not going to catch him now. I’m sure he won’t give a shit really but the frothing internet will love it and try to re-write the history books.
Russell is really good though.
Russell is really good though.
Don’t really want to get involved, but it looks like you’re both saying the same thing???
Not a lot will be said about that restart, Max reaction was brilliant and he was close to Hamilton even before that last corner and using DRS. Once again showing he is easily the best driver on the grid.
I don't think Hamilton will be proud of that restart.
I don't think Hamilton will be proud of that restart.
No because Ferraris were 2nd and 3rd on soft tyres. Going for a 1 stop would have been idiotic
Yeah I think we now are
yep, made the right pit calls and sacrificed the second team driver at the right time. perfect.
Also RB were one of the first to pit under the SC, gave up the lead and went to softs. It was a good call in the end.
To pass Hamilton on the straight before the first corner was icing on the cake for them.
There's nothing to sat about the restart, it wasn't ever going to be a competition. Hamilton was a sitting duck, a Red Bull on brand new softs vs Mercedes on used mediums isn't a contest.
Horner has never been one for humility, but I can't believe Max got DOTD. His was a solid drive today, but he took the fastest car by a mile from 1st to 1st, assisted by a perfectly timed safety car, hardly earth shattering stuff.
Russell was far more deserving (as would Lewis have been if Mercedes had given him softs at the end).
Max could have 10 titles really if he plays his cards well. I don't see any other driver who is close to him once Lewis retires.
Yeah, we saw. He won.
Hamilton needs to realise them both staying out was never going to result in them keeping Max behind. It would have happened sooner or later. Russel made the right call and Mercedes should have anticipated what happened the moment they knew the safety car required going through the pits. Hamilton should have come in too and tried to take second.
But it was proven the one stop from medium to hard was the fastest strategy, because of the pace of the hard tyre? Max would have been in trouble if there were no SC’s
Hamilton made a it of a mess of it, agreed. It wouldn't have affected the race, but he should have waited until the last second to accelerate to avoid giving Max a tow.
Think this is a bit harsh on Charles, who has more than proven he has the pace to compete with max, shame his team are all potato’s
I thought it was an entertaining watch, although a bit of a mess at the end with a lot of strange strategy calls and team mistakes.
Will be curious to hear the full details on what the hell actually happened with Tsunoda out there? Some sketchy stuff going on around that anyway. Of course that kicked off the strange end to the race.
Will be curious to hear the full details on what the hell actually happened with Tsunoda out there? Some sketchy stuff going on around that anyway. Of course that kicked off the strange end to the race.
Bold call and if he does fair play to him, but to win 10 close to impossible I think, but I think he will equal Lewis.
And let them know.
"That was the biggest **** up."
"I can't believe you guys **** **** me, can't you how **** I am."
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Yep, accelerating in the corners while Max is on softs was really amateur stuff. And from what I can remember before Hamilton was always good on restarts.
They can’t warm the tyres up. Russell almost got passed by le clerc on a new set of softs - Hamilton had zero chance against that red bull on old mediums.
When the going gets tough, Charles seems to crack. I rate him on par with Vettel, good/great driver but will get eaten by Max wheel to wheel if all things are equal.
The one dark horse I can't really judge for now is Russell. But he needs to be faster than Hamilton if he wants to stand a chance.
DOTD is just a popularity contest, it’s a load of bollocks
I think he will easily have at least 5, and time is on his side. He just needs to make smart career decisions
Aside from Norris this will be a common podium for F1 in future.
He needs to accelerate to generate heat in the tyres to warm up a harder compound, it's an amateur view if you don't understand the difference between the compounds at a restart.
Always has been, I think Hamilton has only won it something stupid like once.
Understatement of the year
Monza should be an absolute romp for Red Bull with their low drag car, even greater performance if they bring that new chassis there.
To be fair, I'm not sure anyone really saw that..
Would be a pointless watch, if not to watch Ferrari make some serious stinkers in front of their home crowd. Heads to roll!
Yeah, I forgot that you Lewis fans understand all the details behind his every bad move.
You do realise that as a front driver at the same time he is able to warm up his tires the most because he controls the restart? Also it's literally one of shortest straights, you lot blamed Alonso in the last race because he didn't give any fight to Verstapen in fecking Alpine but when it's Lewis then it's not his fault.
It's hardly worth debating because of how little effect it would have on the result, but he could have had a chance of holding the first corner by warming the tyres as he liked but only restart the race just before the start line. There's not much track until the first corner and there would have been no tow for Max.
Sooner or later the safety car curse of abu dhabi will lift off hamilton.
Wrong call by the team not to put him on softs. Regardless the RB is such a rocketship that max would have passed hamilton and russell on track even if they were both ahead of him for a restart.
Only 7 races left till this dead season is over. Realistically singapore is now the only real chance left for mercedes to get a victory this season.
Wrong call by the team not to put him on softs. Regardless the RB is such a rocketship that max would have passed hamilton and russell on track even if they were both ahead of him for a restart.
Only 7 races left till this dead season is over. Realistically singapore is now the only real chance left for mercedes to get a victory this season.
It's in Merc tradition by now to leave Hamilton on old tires against Max on softs and then moan about it.
To be fair Max did the same last season, the championship "win" has really settled his nerves, and along with that he has the confidence this year of having the better car, and better team behind him.
Leclerc has to be perfect, and even then there's a decent chance his team will pull the rug out from under him with brain dead decisions.
Still given the Red Bull superiority, and that he doesn't have any competition from within his own team, its almost guaranteed he'll clean up the next few championships, unless there's a rule change to clip his wings like with Merc last year.
Abu Dhabi was absolutely the correct decision by Merc. You can’t plan for the ride director forgetting the rules. Today was a massive feck up
RB are bringing a lighter chassis to monza. It will be a snorefest unless max has a dnf. That RBs electrical motor deployment is something else.