Even if a car is made in Britain by British people for a British firm chances are the parts won't be British.
This is why nationalism is silly silly
This is why nationalism is silly silly
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
She is by any rational standard tbh,
Wait until she's photographed and fingerprinted when the EU Entry/Exit System comes into operation, hopefully some time this year.
I'm so looking forward to this.
I'm so looking forward to this.
I'll pay you and @JPRouve to be stood there videoing her reaction but in a polite manner to piss her off further.
As @horsechoker says, nationalism is very silly. Doubly so when writing off entire nations of people based off what they hear on the news about politicians in the EU. Neither her or my dad has a leg to stand on with their full on Brexiteerity. Twats the pair of them.
The hating the Scots one is cause of Nicola Sturgeon having the temerity to be a Scottish focused politician but they say they hate the Scots as if the whole country is represented by one view and because it's in opposition to theirs they 'hate'. Yet we had a Scottish lady next door to us for 25 years and she didn't even need to knock to come in cause they thought that highly of her and used to look after me and my sister and our cats whenever my mum and dad were lounging around in a country full of people they hated. People are fecked. All the people they meet in person with evidence that they're lovely in general? Nah, I'll just say I hate them because they don't agree with me.
What have they heard about politicians in the EU? You would think they'd be more upset with the politicians in Westminster.
I would confuse them too much having dual nationality , English and French. they wouldn't know whether to like me or hate me.
My children and grandchildren even more, who are a mix of English, French, Italian and German roots.
The SNP are nationalists and by no means have a totally pro-EU base - they have “Red Wall”” types while pro-Unionist Edinburgh is overwhelmingly Remain. I loathe English nationalism and don’t see any great reason to celebrate Scottish nationalism, even if the current UK model is broken.
Baffles me how you can so rich and not afford a decent haircut. Look at the state of him.
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-labelling-for-goods-sold-in-northern-ireland
M&S warns against separate post-Brexit labelling for goods sold in Northern Ireland
Brexidiot Archie Norman - so thick.
M&S warns against separate post-Brexit labelling for goods sold in Northern Ireland
Brexidiot Archie Norman - so thick.
I'm not saying Nicola Sturgeon is in any way good and people can have legitimate grievences towards her I'm sure but to say you hate Scottish people because you don't agree with her is stupid in the extreme and unfortunately that's what Brexit gave us, either hate for 'Remoaners holding us back' or hate for 'stupid nationalist Brexiteers believing in sunlit uplands'.
People have forgotten how strong a word hate is and how stupid generalising a whole swathe of people because of political differences is. I doubly hate it when they'll gladly bitch and moan about the Scottish, the French, the Germans, etc but they'll gladly go on holiday there and never say boo to a goose about it. And then they pick stupid things to continually reinforce themselves like 'I won't drink French wine anymore' when their favourite wine is French, purely because they perceive the French as the EU enemy.
Both of my parents are the absolute stereotype of arch Brexiteers. I dislike immensely the type of people they've turned into over the past few years and the complete lack of self awareness they display because of it. They're adamant they have their own reasons and nobody told them to vote either way but whenever they've explained it's one Brexiteer trope after another with no original thought. I thought they were better than that, I was mistaken.
I said I loathe (English) nationalism, not people. And, on the basis of logical consistency, I find it hard to celebrate Scottish nationalism, even if I understand their frustration with the current constitutional set up. Nationalism is simplified history based on stuff invented or at least imaginatively recreated in the 19th century after the French revolution introduced this toxin into the political bloodstream. So, while in an English context it’s dressed up in Royalist flummery as we win every battle by ignoring the ones we lost, in Scotland it’s “Alba” and kilts (probably to suck up to Americans in a Mel Gibson Braveheart way) while ignoring lowland Scots speaking a dialect of English purer than modern English and the Norse heritage of the islands and Sutherland and Caithness. Scotland could stand on its own but, in a practical sense, separating England and Scotland (after 300 years) will make the UK’s separation from the EU (after 45 years) look relatively pain free, and, in a broader sense, it’s desperate failure of statecraft if we can’t share this island without dividing it up with borders. The answer - a federal UK (or GB at least) within the EU. Not likely to happen unfortunately.
What now?
Scots (a dialect of English) is closer to Middle English in diction than modern standard English. That’s why Burns is hard to understand for a modern English speaker compared with English poets of that era like Wordsworth. I‘m not suggesting many people still speak in that dialect but it’s a part of their heritage which doesn‘t fit conveniently into a modern nationalist dichotomy of Scotland v England..
Fair enough. It was the use of the word pure in relation to the languge that was odd as pure English has never existed.
No English dialect is purer than any other, whether that is true or not.
Some English dialects are like foreign languages, Scouse and Geordie are 2 prime examples!
Fair enough. “Less modified since the High Middle Ages” would have been a more accurate statement.
Basically the same thing with red state America. They are all for lowering taxes on the rich, slashing social programs, and oppose access to health care. Then they are surprised when they can’t afford hospital bills. Your mom isnt alone. I always viewed it as: the older generation literally grew up in a different world, culture was different, commonalities were different, the wounds inflicted by their parents and life experiences were different. You’re not called to understand them (or her), you’re called to love her.
Don’t worry lads, the chancellor is today going to tell you all that British hard work and British genius will make the UK the next silicone valley in a plan “energised” by Brexit.
The gall of these absolute cnuts
https://news.sky.com/story/chancell...but-set-to-resist-calls-for-tax-cuts-12796298
The gall of these absolute cnuts
https://news.sky.com/story/chancell...but-set-to-resist-calls-for-tax-cuts-12796298
Most Brexiteers will probably see this as one of their cherished 'benefits'...
Number of EU students enrolling in UK universities halves post-Brexit
https://www.theguardian.com/educati...olling-uk-universities-down-half-since-brexit
Number of EU students enrolling in UK universities halves post-Brexit
https://www.theguardian.com/educati...olling-uk-universities-down-half-since-brexit
Don’t worry lads, the chancellor is today going to tell you all that British hard work and British genius will make the UK the next silicone valley in a plan “energised” by Brexit.
The gall of these absolute cnuts
https://news.sky.com/story/chancell...but-set-to-resist-calls-for-tax-cuts-12796298
World leading etc etc etc.
Italy and Japan....two countries well known for their dynamic, rapidly growing economies
.This is what Rishi Sunak said about the anniversary in a statement released overnight.
You have to be a gibbering idiot to believe this crap.
You have to be a gibbering idiot to believe this crap.
Even The Torygraph is reporting this headline. Has the worm finally started to turn?
It's going to get better this year. IMF forecasting GDP 0.6. Progress.
that's two thirds the NHS budget
Strongly agree (37%)
Mildly agree (17%)
Neither (18%)
Mildly disagree (9%)
Strongly disagree (19%)
Agree = 54%
Neutral = 18%
Disagree = 28%
So while Agree is ahead, it's still not by a big margin which to me is astounding. I'd be interested to know how they come to these results.
I'm totally guessing but I suspect that many people still believe in the fabled positives of Brexit and think that it's either a matter of time or will until those benefits come into effect.
That and the inability to ever admit that they were gullible and wrong.
Is there a single positive so far from Brexit? It has to be the most stupid act of Democratic self-harm a developed country has made in recent years. Absolutely insane it was allowed to happen. If ever there is a case for utterly disregarding a referendum, it's this.
Water company execs can now get bigger bonuses due to cost savings from sewage treatment as we can now pump that into our beaches instead.
It will be a case study for university students around the world for decades to come. A perfect combination of propaganda, misinformation, social media, corruption, hubris, hatred and xenophobia combined.
And yet Sunak is still spouting these barefaced lies...
"In the three years since leaving the EU, we’ve made huge strides in harnessing the freedoms unlocked by Brexit to tackle generational challenges. Whether leading Europe’s fastest vaccine rollout, striking trade deals with over 70 countries or taking back control of our borders, we’ve forged a path as an independent nation with confidence.
And in my first 100 days as prime minister, that momentum hasn’t slowed – we’re cutting red tape for businesses, levelling up through our freeports, and designing our own, fairer farming system to protect the British countryside.
This is just the beginning of our plans to deliver on our five priorities, including growing the economy so we can create better paid jobs, and I’m determined to ensure the benefits of Brexit continue to empower communities and businesses right across the country."
"In the three years since leaving the EU, we’ve made huge strides in harnessing the freedoms unlocked by Brexit to tackle generational challenges. Whether leading Europe’s fastest vaccine rollout, striking trade deals with over 70 countries or taking back control of our borders, we’ve forged a path as an independent nation with confidence.
And in my first 100 days as prime minister, that momentum hasn’t slowed – we’re cutting red tape for businesses, levelling up through our freeports, and designing our own, fairer farming system to protect the British countryside.
This is just the beginning of our plans to deliver on our five priorities, including growing the economy so we can create better paid jobs, and I’m determined to ensure the benefits of Brexit continue to empower communities and businesses right across the country."