Yesterday, Prigozhin went out against the war itself, though. If he thinks the war is pointless, why would be continue it if he succeeds in taking Moscow (which I have no belief he will anyway).
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That could still be years. If modern medicine can keep the fat lumbering hairy bollock Trump alive then it can do the same for Putin.
I can’t imagine he’d be much better if he was given full control, however my take on this is that this is much more about the Russian people and being able to see who they want in power. They may perhaps see the power they hold themselves rather than being fed constant propaganda
This whole saga may be a bit of a wake up call for them.
I think that’s a hopeful outlook, not convinced it’ll play out that way though.
No one knows. Prigozhin says so but his words mean nothing.
What's your solution?
I think it's way too early to even speculate but in the interim it's still way too easily overlooked how many yes men Putin put in power at all levels of society. If it does indeed fall apartt it will be like a house of cards with people fighting over the ashes and at that point it seems anyone's guess what the end result will be. He may have to end up being a kingmaker to prevent total societal collapse. Fear has ruled that society for decades, fear is likely what Prigozhin will need/want to use as well.
It looks to me that this war is mainly still going on, because Putin backed himself into a corner. Prigozhin doesn't have that dilemma. He could blame it all on Putin and trade a retreat for some Western favours.
COBRA meeting now. I'm sure they'll sort it. I'm being sarcastic.
conveniently forgetting its actually those on the right predominately in the US who if not openly supporting Putin, were certainly questioning Zelensky and need to support Ukraine.
Have you seriously thought that argument through?
It's interesting how relatively limited the big media has been in providing many of the updates we see on Twitter and other social media. Wouldn't be the first time social media is faster to update but I take everything with a heavy grain of salt. Russian misinformation spreading has already been an issue when it comes to other places in the world, we re now probably just seeing what it has typically done to its own population as well.
Has Corbyn called for Putin to stand down and bring the peace?
Can’t believe we may actually be witnessing the demise of a superpower and the end of 24 years of Putins reign.
he wouldve if he wasnt neutered by Putin funded Tories and Israeli lobby groups.
How long before top minds blame this on the US/NATO like they have been during this whole conflict?
I actually, as far as I know, agree with him on everything other than this. On this though he has disgraced himself.
Tbf America aren't exactly innocent in any conflict currently going on.
A selection of Russians asked what they think about the Wagners one month ago.
Two minutes was the time needed, as it turned out
Looks like its about to get real, with Kadyrovs mob on the outskirts of Rostov, (but believe it or not, stuck in a traffic jam).
If Kadyrov and his cronies get smashed and Chechnya is on the path to liberation, thats one thing to be thankful for.
If Kadyrov and his cronies get smashed and Chechnya is on the path to liberation, thats one thing to be thankful for.
Placing blame would imply that this is a negative, but you are right that the contrarians will find a way to do what they do.
To me, this is a total vindication of the support the west has given Ukraine. The futility of the war effort for the Russians have led to this.
Well, there are the idiot Tankies who love Russia regardless of its fascist dictator, and there are the insane right wingers who just love Russia's white nationalist, pseudo-Christian dictator and want one of their own.
At this point surely the west have to demand Russia hands over its nukes, similar to how Ukraine were made to do in order to be accepted as a nation.
You can't leave any vestige of this Russism behavior standing. Let the regions have autonomy and break up the Russian infrastructure of oppression.
The reputation of their military is in tatters and they could just dissolve into selling off dangerous weapons to the highest bidder.
I guess this is good news short term, but what about long term? This prigo fella seems to be as much of a psychopath as putin...
Like Sudan?
The mental gymnastics of the Anti-West people has really been something to witness during this conflict. People have literally been bending over backwards to try to find ways to justify Russia invading Ukraine. These same people who would claim to be anti capitalist, anti war etc.
Putin believes in totalitarianism and wants to reestablish the USSR. He started the war, lying the Russian people about his intentions with the war. "America aren't exactly innocent?"
US is on the side of democracy and Western liberalism. So am I.
If they manage to transport them without getting shot down its game over
I'm not sure i would like to see the sledgehammer guy in charge of Russia tbh.
The war on Ukraine has seemed like a Putin vanity project for a long time. You would think that anyone else there would see finding a way to bring the war to an end and trying to rebuild the shambles Russia is currently in as a more sensible course of action. Or at least you would hope so.
Agree. But if you take a US lens to this, a lot of it just comes down to the general polarization and the Republicans refusing to back anything the administration does. Everything must be criticized, even if that means going to bat for the Russians.
Where would Putin likely escape to? Which country would be most attractive to him from shielding him from prosecution for the rest of his days and allow him access to his funds?
No country in their right mind is going to give up nukes, so I'm pretty sure noone would prolong the war by insisting on it.