I mean… revenge is a dish best served cold, right?
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I mean… revenge is a dish best served cold, right?
I don't really think so. The deal included Wagner to move to Belarus, which simply wasn't done. Lukashenko would have reason to worry if this incident happened in Belarus, but it didn't.
This is the textbook example of why you don't half ass a coup after getting cold feet. You either win or die trying. What a monumental dumbass
Omar Little agrees.
Yes, for all we can see here, Prigozhin didn't do the supposed deal. Instead of laying low in Belarus he was welcoming African leaders and making TikTok videos in Mali.
We don't know what their so called deal was, but for the publicly released info , none of it happened except some training camps in Belarus.
I’ve said it multiple times before on here, but this bad ass deserves the NPP…
The current situation on the southern front. Ukraine managed to penetrate the heavily mined first line of defense and widen the gap. They took Robotyne yesterday and this allows them to threaten the second line. Let's hope the Russians only mined the first line so heavily, so it gets easier from now on. We'll know in the coming weeks.
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Given Russian aviation standards, it's actually more likely it was an accident.
Or he knew what was going to happen because Putin is his paymaster.
All these beta little men in their telegram groups, talking about waiting and silence, discussing next moves, they're all so sad.
Come across like losers, not some battle hardened super army soldiers.
Come across like losers, not some battle hardened super army soldiers.
Much more likely.
It could even be the case that Lukashenko effectively tricked Prigozhin to stop his march and that Putin is really happy about his contribution. We just don't know.
I think all military hardliners see Lukashenko as a clown, nothing more. I really doubt someone like Prigozhin would've trusted him with anything more than just providing a temporary hotel for his Wagners.
The tail crashed over 3km away from the main body of the plane. It was either a bomb planted on the plane or it was shot out of the sky.
It was a joke.
That's a statement!
Why are the BBC littering their live coverage of this news with pictures of neo-nazis and their girlfriends laying flowers at Wagner offices with little or no comment that...these people are nazi fecks and mercenaries....It's not a human tragedy story like a normal plane crash. I'm predicting a close up of a sad teddy bear in military costume next to a pile of flowers any moment...really poor taste!
This landing, even if only for a short time, mocks Russian defense.
First guesses are about 6m long with a range of 1000 km.
I didn't actually think it was possible to visually identify someone who was in a plane crash.
Depends whether the body was completely burned or not. The video I saw yesterday shortly after the crash had a body lying close to the plane. It was in a bad shape, but still recognizable I think.
So much for Lukashenko's hospitality. They were dumb enough to believe him. A call from Putin's secretary was probably enough to end their agreement.
Maybe not 100% officially, but Prigozhin has a distinctive missing finger and tattoo's on the Utkin. From what I saw, there were some sort of intact, but mangled, bodies where it might be possible to visually identify.
Visegrad usually reports heavily biased. The only thing we see here as "news" is that the tents are gone. That can mean anything from "Lukashenko betrayed them" to "they moved into real homes instead of tents".
Sure, but I really doubt he offered them real homes after Putin killed their boss. He wouldn't risk angering Putin, especially after yesterday's event. He could also excuse this with the fact that he isn't bound by any agreement with a dead guy.
But the two images were taken three weeks apart. What Visegrad posted doesn't show if that tent camp was dismantled today or two weeks ago. So there is no way to know if what we see is even related to Prigozhin's death.
And even if it is we don't know if Lukashenko is sending them away or if they are packing things due to their own decision.
And besides all that Lukashenko is angering Putin all the time, as often as he can get away with it. There is not much reason why it should be different here.
I wonder if there will be a reaction to this. You'd imagine there are some people in Wagner thinking they should have finished what they started.
Their leader got fecked for it. And more will die and Putin will make sure the organization will follow him now or he would make it irrelevant.
Do people actually underestimate Putin here for these kind of things? Especially, right after what just happened.
That's exactly why I think there might be a counter reaction. They all saw how close they were before Prighozin got cold feet. The top in Wagner now must be thinking that either they go quietly into the night and fall out of windows in the coming year, or they go and finish what might still be a very achievable coup.
Its almost for sure not achievable anymore, you only get one shot at this, and they blew it.