I'm referring to Starmer in relation to Brexit. There are plenty of Labour supporters who dislike him for many other reasons. After all Corbyn appointed him after the referendum to deal with it in a shadow capacity, Probably a shrewd move by Corbyn appointing someone who knew nothing about the EU, trade or anything related. Being anti-Eu that he was.
It's not just the Tories, both parties and the whole press is waiting for the global opportunities that brexit has presented the Uk with. Quote "Labour will embrace global trade outside of the EU. Labour wants Britain to lead the way in developing a new global trade approach that puts people, communities, rights, and standards at its very heart."
The global approach - its really shows the intelligence of Brexit voters in Britain.
What they fail to tell you is that the UK were already trading with these countries, this has been said a thousand times but nobody takes any notice. There are no global opportunites. Whatever products these countries want to buy from Britain, they already do buy. India being a current topic. India buy 70% of all the whisky they import globally from the UK already. So to steal the other 30% of the market worth peanuts from other countries will do what?
They're celebrating AUKUS which actually means Australia buying American submarines in 20 years time.
The Uk, the press, the political parties talk as if the Uk have never traded with anyone else other than the EU since they joined in 1973. The problem is that they want to go back to 1953 to a world that no longer exists. When Britain started sinking and desperately tried to join the EC.
These countries don't need the UK, they all belong to various trade blocs; Any little extras the Uk can gain from selling a little bit here and there is just cosmetic. The EU have done a better deal than the Uk with NZ but although it's hugely better than the NZ/UK deal it's still only a small bonus worth comparatively little.
There's a whole trade bloc on the UK's doorstep with a market that was willing to buy UK products but no they'd rather sell the odd trinket thousands of miles way.
Eventually they will learn. They just want to do it the hard way.
So, having destroyed the economy how will Starmer finance what he intends to do? Tax the rich?
Yes I understood you were referring to Starmer in terms of brexit, but he wasn't even the leader then and was left by the anti-EU Corbyn to try to carry the red wall vote by pretending things could be different, 'Chalices' don't come anymore poisoned that that one. Starmer was carrying the can for Corbyn in more ways than one, except for the dedicated momentum group no body in the real world had expected Corbyn to succeed even when his original plans involved things most Labour people could accept. Corbyn subsequently offered everything under the sun which meant in vote terms he gave the Tories a massive majority, and the rest of us Boris. Starmer to have survived at all and then to go on to become the new Labour leader was little short of a miracle in itself.
Starmer is a not a trade centred leader, that's true; but there again Labour isn't really a trade centred party. The Labour people, the ones who voted for brexit, didn't want
more of the same, and they wont get it. Labour under Starmer will have to turn itself into a wide ranging 'broad church', to use Tony Blair's famous comparison, he wanted 'everyone within the tent'. In economic terms the UK will have to revisit and or start new endeavors in other areas to make money, at the same time Starmer will try to '
roll together with the EU', but not as part of it. Maybe he will be successful, no one knows for sure; if he gets it right with a
social contract, anything is possible, but there is no return ticket; how do we know, because the EU has told us so, many times in the last few years and continues to do so?.
Going back to 1953, don't you mean going back to 2016?
Going forward is necessary, not backwards, or even therefore to try to keep running alongside a bus (the EU) who isn't actually going in the direction we want, (
further political integration) who will not stop to let us get onboard, not unless we wear 'sack clothe and ashes 'and change our currency (
no Sterling next time around), who will offer no 'opt outs' next time (if there is one), is a bit pointless. True we will still avail ourselves of the ECHR, the space agency stuff and one or two other things, even though we might now be paying through the nose, the difference will be its our choice, to get it wrong, as well as hopefully get it right.
However as you point out
perhaps the EU block will still be there, as a back stop shall we say, at least there will be no more dismantling of the EU influences under Starmer's Labour.
We must all be aware the world/globe is changing at a rate of knots, to survive is to look to the future and not be hobbled with things from the past, everything virtually is up for grabs in the next few decades, this is what makes going back to a different world impossible.The biggest single lesson for the world to learn is perhaps that 'consumerism' is now doomed, build to last, recycle, reverse engineer for solutions, etc., are all coming true and not likely to go down well with the 'movers and shakers' who influence a lot of EU policy.
